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Unread 3 Oct 2015, 22:39   #1
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Limit naps / reduce alliance size to 50

Limit the amount of naps/allies an ally can have. To much sitting on the fence going on by some mass napping. Having over half the universe you cannot attack only encourages bottom feeding . Eventually those at the bottom of the food chain which includes any newbies playing (who should be encouraged to sick around) will get sick of it and stop playing.

Reduce members per ally to the 50 the same as the number counted for score. This will then allow either the formation of new or some smaller allies to increase their member count bringing them more into the mix
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Re: Limit naps / reduce alliance size to 50

Agreed!
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Unread 4 Oct 2015, 02:07   #3
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Re: Limit naps / reduce alliance size to 50

I agree with your idea but the problem is not only ingame naps and alliances but the out of game ones...

Somehow for preventing bottom feeding, they should include not only planet ranking but also alliance ranking in the amount of xp/roid gain only in a way that it can benefit the game. The first weeks aren't the problem, but when the cards are shuffled, it is getting boring with all the NAPs and alliances. The HCs are basically deciding every round (within their power ofc) who they let to win.
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Re: Limit naps / reduce alliance size to 50

You cannot stop out-of-game NAPs. Limiting the number of ingame NAPs will only serve to reduce transparency by making alliances do their politics where the universal relations screen cannot see it. This is a dumb idea.

As for changing the ally limit, well, I don't know, I don't think I've ever seen a thread about that before. I think we'll need at least 5 pages to go over all the pros and cons.
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Re: Limit naps / reduce alliance size to 50

I would be surprised if changing nap limits would change anything. The smaller allies are just as guilty of "napping up" as the bigger allies.

Forts are a more touchy point than any nap.
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I would be surprised if changing nap limits would change anything. The smaller allies are just as guilty of "napping up" as the bigger allies.

Forts are a more touchy point than any nap.
Forts is a more touchy bit yet
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Unread 4 Oct 2015, 18:16   #7
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Reduce members per ally to the 50 the same as the number counted for score. This will then allow either the formation of new or some smaller allies to increase their member count bringing them more into the mix
No.......... just no.

(See Mz's post above).
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Re: Limit naps / reduce alliance size to 50

Your arguments and past thread discussions are outdated Arc. Its not about bringing players in. Its about making the game interesting to play again.
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Re: Limit naps / reduce alliance size to 50

You're wrong - and continuing to make the same discredited arguments won't make you right. (Although, to be fair, you haven't actually bothered to make any argument at all).

Players forced to leave their alliances may find another to join (at the expense of even more former players of that alliance) but they may also simply leave the game.

Something tells me that we can't afford that.
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Re: Limit naps / reduce alliance size to 50

1. Naps cap - Wont work because they will be done off the relations page which will confuse other allys and everything will be a mess
2. Lowering alliance member count - Is what alot of people want to see ( myself included ) but what would happen to the likes of ct? p3n? bf? fl? where would there players go that they dropped? you can say to other alliance but the chance of them quitting is still there and wont go away and we cant afford to loose more players..
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Re: Limit naps / reduce alliance size to 50

You would see a lot more 20-25 man tags full of friends that won't get nubbed on because that could be detrimental to the chances of alliances going for the win. It wouldn't be in there best interests to hit these tags all the time. Need to have limits reduced to at least 40. 50 isn't nearly far enough.

Gal sizes should also be reduced in accordance with this.

More political movement.

Arc, I don't need to make an argument. I know I'm right. Most of the people left aren't noobs, but simply people that play for nostalgia. Bored.
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See my previous reply..........
............... and the 74,000 ones before that.

At least Adapt, even though he'd like to see smaller tags, recognises the danger.
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true but thats how it is and will remain, reducing tag limits at this point in the game is a danger to the community, maybe sometime when the PA team pulls their finger out and asks for donations to advertise, id sure donate to see PA back to what it was when spinner ran it
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true but thats how it is and will remain, reducing tag limits at this point in the game is a danger to the community, maybe sometime when the PA team pulls their finger out and asks for donations to advertise, id sure donate to see PA back to what it was when spinner ran it
They are allready donating their profits to charity.

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Why would they ask for donations themself?
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Re: Limit naps / reduce alliance size to 50

You guys seem to fail to recognise that there is already a mass exodus of players happening because they are sick of the same boring rounds. I know multiple people that have had enough.

It won't change anything, so in mine and many others opinion...there is no danger.
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mass exodus
Yeah, no.
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Re: Limit naps / reduce alliance size to 50

Some people quit every round, some new random people come back. Numbers are falling but really quite slowly, and it's been a trend for probably 50 rounds.
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