Fifa 2004

[Superpig #1]

is it good enough to buy and spend 40 quid on???
is it much of an improvment???

[mbushell]

only if you don't already own a fifa game and can afford to waste 40 quid

[Superpig #1]

thanks for the short review

[mbushell]

whenever a new fifa game is comes out it has a 'brand new system' that makes it better than the previous year's version, but it doesn't and you'll just be paying 40 quid to some guy who went through the game and edited the team rosters

[Superpig #1]

i hope they have worked on the through passes, they were terrible on fifa 2003

[mbushell]

i remember hitting enter and watching a dude run twenty yards offside and then asking for the ball (but since the referees are blind it doesnt really matter)

[Superpig #1]

lol - i actually laughed out loud and got a couple of funny looks.

also the camera seemed to stutter.
my goalies ran halfway up the field for no particular reason at all.
tackling was terrible, the advantage was never played when you were on through with another player

[Obliterate]

Get PES3 instead.

[Superpig #1]

no names.
david Feckham
alan Shaver
thierry Penry
Dickoff
Muzzie Is It?

hehe quite funny aint it?
no really PES is ok but i prefer to play with commentry that goes a bit further than 'Hes got the ball' being shouted every few minuites. id also like to play with the real names.

[Obliterate]

No camera angle problems
No goalies running halfway up the field for no particular reason at all.
No tackling problems

etc...

Although I agree that the commentary is appaling, easy solution is to just turn it off ofc. The player names don't really bother me that much tbh.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Play striker on the SNES. It has real names (from 1992) and you can edit them!

[Superpig #1]

excellant!! /sarcasm

[MrL_JaKiri]

Don't mock striker. It's one of the best football games ever made.

[Superpig #1]

hmm i bet, i will go and buy it now

[MrL_JaKiri]

Do you have a snes?

[Superpig #1]

no

[Rids]

International Superstar Soccer Delux > *

[Deffeh]

Originally Posted by Rids

International Superstar Soccer Delux > *

On the snes? You are correct. Probably best football game to date, although sensible soccer and striker run it close

[MrL_JaKiri]

My god the dutch were immense in the original ISS, especially Jurgen, who had top stats in everything except stamina, which was really low.

[Deffeh]

i always went brazil and my brother always went argentina. It was merely a question of gomez vs capitale.

Gomez guarenteed 2 or 3 wondergoals a game, capitale was pretty much a sure bet for a goal from any corner

[MrL_JaKiri]

I preferred Holland in a 4-3-3 formation

[edit]

Although the game I played the most (multiplayer) was Super Mario Kart

[Deffeh]

me too.

Me and a friend back at home for the last year played it every monday

Battle course 4

First to ten victories wins

Each "game" won, gets you a "point"

Ten points wins a set.

I won the first set 10-6, currently im leading 7-5 in the second

Thats.. a hell of a lot of mariokart

[MrL_JaKiri]

A few years back, one of my friends and I used to play 150cc Special Cup a lot, and race to victory!

[Deffeh]

ive only one that cup once but it was probably the pinnacle of my computer gaming life

Even better, i taped it. Damn that cup was hard, the first race was just killer. I was ecstatic if i finished fourth in three attempts

[MrL_JaKiri]

The first course was by far the worst; the ghost valley was a good track though.

We also did Mushroom 150cc, so there was less computer player interference.

[Supernova9]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Don't mock striker. It's one of the best football games ever made.

except for the fact that all you had to do to score (outdoors) was run straight towards the goal, pick the right point inside the semi-circle on the edge of the box, press shoot and watch it loop over the keeper every time. Or indoors, hit just inside one of the posts, straight down from when your keeper gives it to you, and you score again.

[Rids]

Originally Posted by Supernova9

except for the fact that all you had to do to score (outdoors) was run straight towards the goal, pick the right point inside the semi-circle on the edge of the box, press shoot and watch it loop over the keeper every time. Or indoors, hit just inside one of the posts, straight down from when your keeper gives it to you, and you score again.

This is true, however, you seen learned to play as the keeper yourself, and thus prevent those exceedingly shit goals going in all the time.

In regards to football games, I never did see the fascination with Sensible Soccer, infact, in my opinion, it was shit.

[Kurashima]

PES 3 pisses on Fifa like never before. The pinnacle of Console Football Games.

EA Milking a license for all its worth instead of producing a top quality game.

[Nodrog]

Why would you care if a game had real player names

edit: olympic soccer on the PSX is probably the best post-sensi football game, although that bizarro adidas soccer thing was also good (as was PUMA world football)

Fifa has always sucked

[Phang]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

olympic soccer

i own 2 football games total - that and this 7 quid Chris Kamara three-a-side thing

i once lost 24-0 on olympic soccer


go go gadget OG

[1-X]

Sensible Soccer on the Amiga was probably the best football game ever on anything , and I've been playing computer football games since they were pong with an extra bat.

Currently I'm playing PES3, trying to get the damn superstar teams on which must be hidden in there somewhere. If you've experienced the control/gameplay of the PES series (going back to ISS Deluxe), you can never find FIFA acceptable. It has the team/player license (which shouldn't be exclusive to one game) but very little else to recommend it (and you can get an addon disc to change all the player names in PES3 if that sort of thing is so important to you)

[deerbarn]

TIF has the player / team licence as well. Not a bad game

[Kurashima]

Originally Posted by deerbarn

TIF has the player / team licence as well. Not a bad game

TIF is terrible. TIF 2003 was even worse (if thats at all possible)

[Bob The Scutter]

Michael Owen World League Soccer 1999.... that had the player licences and stuff... and thats pretty much all it did have, which is why another one was never released thank god

[Rids]

Originally Posted by 1-X

Sensible Soccer on the Amiga was probably the best football game ever on anything , and I've been playing computer football games since they were pong with an extra bat.

I really dont see the fascination with Sensible Soccer. I realise it was supposed to be mindless and fun and stuff, but banging in goals endlessly from around the halfway line was dull as ****. Maybe I'm missing something, anybody care to explain what exactly they see in sensible soccer.

ps. Tatio Football 93 or whatever in the arcades was a winner too.

[Super]

Don't buy Fifa 2004. The gravity is almost 5% out from reality - what are we to believe they play in some 'magic' place where balls fall slower than normal?

[JammyJim]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Don't mock striker. It's one of the best football games ever made.

i cannot even begin to count the many many hours of enjoyment ive had from striker.


the skill involved was immense.
infact its probably the best footy game ive ever played.


ever

[Nodrog]

Originally Posted by Rids

I really dont see the fascination with Sensible Soccer. I realise it was supposed to be mindless and fun and stuff, but banging in goals endlessly from around the halfway line was dull as ps. Tatio Football 93 or whatever in the arcades was a winner too.

stop being a fag you fag

[Embroglio]

ISS 64 rocked so ****ing much.

[Rids]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

stop being a fag you fag

I'm so glad you were able to clear that up for me Gordon, your wonderful insights on the true genius of Sensible Soccer will stick with me always.

:****:

[deerbarn]

I still play SWOS and until a few years ago downloaded update packs every week . Ps go swos 97/98 wrexham

[CoD]

PES3 has alot more correct names this time around, and also the commentry has been vastly improved with things like

Player names in commenty :"Henry, to bergkamp"
better sayings: "Oh is it a penalty, NO! its just outside the box, but with the players in this team its almost like a penalty" {or something similar}

They even argue witht herefs decisions.

Also its more realistic than ever, which makes it good (tho its way harder than PES2).
You really feel proud when you score a goal to clinch the game.

Also I heard that after a few days of FIFA 2004's release sum guy had made a patch to make realism better, improved ball physics etc. So WTF were FIFA doing all this time? It seems they care more to get the players face just looking right than improving gameplay.


I am a PES fan tho, always have been. Only owned one FIFA game, but played most of them, still prefer PES & ISS.

BASICALLY IF U LIKE FIFA GAMES GET FIFA, IF U LIKE PES GET PES. IF YOU DON'T KNOW RENT THEM AND DECIDE

[Deffeh]

Originally Posted by Embroglio

ISS 64 rocked so ****ing much.

Assuming thats the same shit version of it i played, where one of the buttons is an automatic through ball.

[Bob The Scutter]

the one where you can only run in a straight line... the one where you have to be about 6 yards out to score a goal at full pelt, and the one where the keepers are forever suspended in the air when diving to save a shot?

[MrL_JaKiri]

I liked ISS on the SNES.

Mmmm diving headers on the goal line.

[Superpig #1]

i think ill rent them both