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Unread 15 Jan 2003, 21:54   #1
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True Powerblock and Fencesitting ahoy!

These info is provided by my poor intel (let's say that a lil birdy told me and such a lil birdy can't lie obviously).

---> link here <---

What did you say about powerblocking and stagnation?




(Thank you for providing a link, and a statement on content. So we really don't need the whole log repeated do we? Any problems pm me. -Jonny)
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Anything to deflect attention away from your own group eh WebAngel?
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Unread 15 Jan 2003, 21:59   #3
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Anything to deflect attention away from your own group eh WebAngel?
Now you call VOM a group, I guess that we are not that evil super powerful powerblock anymore then...
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hehe

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So...3 alliances got together to fight your 3 alliances.

Its ok when Virus/MadCows/Olympians ally, but not when Wolfpack/Elysium/Eclipse ally.

You might go so far as to say that was hypocritical.

I'll say this for Auld: Auld has not and does not have any political ties to the Pack/Ely/Eclipse block.

We're equal-opportunity-attackers.
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So...3 alliances got together to fight your 3 alliances.

Its ok when Virus/MadCows/Olympians ally, but not when Wolfpack/Elysium/Eclipse ally.

You might go so far as to say that was hypocritical.

I'll say this for Auld: Auld has not and does not have any political ties to the Pack/Ely/Eclipse block.

We're equal-opportunity-attackers.
Read again.

Those three alliances are napped to ToT and Sapentia.

besides that they allow any alliances bar VoM in their gals. I can easily see the stagnation and arbiter violation chaos, that will come from this.
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Napped alliances dont coordinate attacks. I dont see the connection.
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sigh

if they are napped they can NOT attack eachother

so they have to attack VOM
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with all those naps and intertwined gals, they will have problems even finding targets for gal attacks. :-)
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WEE so it seems your fears of mass enemies attacking VOM is shot down. Wolfpack only allied Eclipse and Elysium. 3 on 3 seems fair to me how many other Naps does Vom have in its pocket already? Probably just as many as WEE has...
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hum very nice log..WebAngel...thx for charing that information with us..very good intel indeed...
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Napped alliances dont coordinate attacks. I dont see the connection.
belive the term is 'flak'


edit : i spelt believe blief :\ it looked bad even to me
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Have you read other threads Buddha ?

VoM members are creating pure VoM gals. No Naps elsewhere.

Try thinking through what WEE is doing at the moment.

Think about what will happen, when/IF VoM is defeated.
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WEE so it seems your fears of mass enemies attacking VOM is shot down. Wolfpack only allied Eclipse and Elysium. 3 on 3 seems fair to me how many other Naps does Vom have in its pocket already? Probably just as many as WEE has...
3 on 3? WEE also includes ToT and Sep,thats 5 v 3 allready.
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The only ones allied to ToT and Sap are Eclipse. That leave Them free to attack anyone remained left over. Like I said I am sure VOM has similar pacts that havent been brought to light yet. Plus there is more then a month till tick 1 gives everyone plenty of time to change the situation.
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i think the VOM commands knows that they forced this block building!
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Now you call VOM a group, I guess that we are not that evil super powerful powerblock anymore then...
I never refered to them as anything more than a block, cos tbh I don't agree with all this crappy difference between a 'block' and a 'powerblock'....seems like a term used to make people feel better about themselves to me.
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3 on 3? WEE also includes ToT and Sep,thats 5 v 3 allready.
lol viper, let's not start all this again heh

who cares about blocking? get over it all of you. It has been like this last 4 rounds. If you don't like it, play another game.

It's the nature of the game, mind the word GAME ....
Most alliances go for the victory, there's no good and bad in how to achieve that.

I mean look at the past

-alliances team up and group togehter --> cause they are stronger
-galaxies team and group together in cluster/parallell allies --> cause they are stronger
-Battlegroups get formed to attack together --> cause they are stronger

ANYTHING you do in this game, aside from having fun, is trying to be successfull and let's just all face it. Together one is always stronger.

And yes you can all whine about stagnation etc, but you really think the winners wanna give up their position so you pple don't have a boring round? Would Titans have given up and say "nah we don't wanna win" just so you pple can say it was a fun round? Would fury have done that r7 ???

We can all, and probably will, taklk and discuss and complain about blocking asmuch as we won't. It'll simply NEVER change unless the creators can force us to, which I doubt they'll ever be able to (but surprise me).

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so Wolfpack have a spy in their ranks and people are already forming up an opposition to VOM

Oh my word that's contraversial.
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3 on 3? WEE also includes ToT and Sep,thats 5 v 3 allready.
Awww is that too much for you? Stop being moaning wusses and play the game how its meant to be played. With fleets and military tactics.
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btw viper, NONE of this was meant at you personally, just quoted you.

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Awww is that too much for you? Stop being moaning wusses and play the game how its meant to be played. With fleets and military tactics.
exactly and all stop whining about blocking !!!

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Does anyone remember the time when people "in the know" had the grace not to post intelligence on the forums just to score "cheap points" ?

From what I can see WEE are building galaxies with 6 members from their block which gives them almost total control, how is that any different from you building VoM galaxies (I guarantee they won't be purely VoM and I can cite examples) ? To be honest I'd say Eclipse, Elysium, Wolfpack, ToT and Sapientia is a good match for ViruS, Olympians and Madcows, you can't just say that because there are five alliances against three that it's an unfair fight (As Viper has just tried to) if anything with the huge amount of talent Olympians can draw on the odds are still stacked against the WEETS side.

The VoM HCs with a FLVTT background should think back to Round 6, Grendal taught me a valuable lesson during the build up to the round. There are two blocks are both claiming they'll work independently and of course you'll do anything to stop them co-operating against you just like we tried to do. Now think about your actions, your incessant whining, your accusations, your posting of logs and your flames, do you really think this will discourage them from working against you ? Or do you think that will encourage them to want to kill you off first before fighting it out one on one ? The lesson was that behind the scenes diplomacy does a lot more good than public spectacles do. Perhaps you should heed this Web Angel because far from banish your "bad guy" image you've actually managed to enhance it and add a tinge of desperation.

I do find its odd that Caliban claims Eclipse are a strong attacking alliance considering their roots are in Fury.
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[22:37] <Gunn3r> hey
[22:37] <sirad> yo
[22:38] <Gunn3r> can you reply to barrow in WebAngel's newest thread for me?
[22:38] <Gunn3r> it's not a flame
[22:38] <Gunn3r> "Wrong, ask fos and xeta whether they co-ordinated their attacks or not in r6" and then adds(not aimed specifically at Barrow) Funny how a quantity, noobish alliance such as virus suddenly turns out as 'elite' and the new evil power of pa"
[22:39] <Gunn3r> when Barrows say: Napped alliances dont coordinate attacks. I dont see the connection.
[22:39] <Gunn3r> k? :P
[22:39] <Gunn3r> also i have to go in 10mins so reply before ;p
[22:39] <Gunn3r> plz ^^
[22:40] <sirad> can i used your nick
[22:40] <Gunn3r> i dont have a forum account im banned
[22:40] <Gunn3r> cant even create a new thread
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Awww is that too much for you? Stop being moaning wusses and play the game how its meant to be played. With fleets and military tactics.
Amazing to see how you can be Maddix... Blocking was bad now it's the same to block and powerblock. You are just planning a full round of obvious stagnation and you feel the need to give us some lessons. Please...please please be serious 10 second that will change your life.
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Oh.. how unexpected heh.

How the tides do turn .... however it seem's even WP HC are a little conffused as to the full political situation of the up-and comeing round.

Good luck WolfPack/Elysium and indeed Eclipse.

On the same note, i look forward to seeing Madcows have a wonderfull round and a much overdue return to form for Virus.
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Amazing to see how you can be Maddix... Blocking was bad now it's the same to block and powerblock. You are just planning a full round of obvious stagnation and you feel the need to give us some lessons. Please...please please be serious 10 second that will change your life.
Did you plan something hugely different ?
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Get the bloody powerblocks name correct you fools, geez.
It's PEE ffs
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Amazing to see how you can be Maddix... Blocking was bad now it's the same to block and powerblock. You are just planning a full round of obvious stagnation and you feel the need to give us some lessons. Please...please please be serious 10 second that will change your life.
As I've said a hundred times I see no difference between a block and a powerblock, but if it makes you feel bigger and more of a man to only be blocking or to see your enemies as powerblocking, then you do that

How you can claim I am planning a round of "obvious stagnation" is quite frankly amazing considering I've been pointing out that all these supposed 'powerblocks' that you claim exist are in fact nothing more than fiction created by your own minds to give you excuses incase you are unable to fulfill your potential, but hey, everyone needs an excuse to fall back on right? Mine is apparently that I am young, inexperienced and not being serious. Thanks for pointing that out for me btw, it would have taken me ages to think up for myself
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Get the bloody powerblocks name correct you fools, geez.
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They're napped.

Non-Agression-Pact

PEE or WEE or EEP or whatever, napped ToT and Sapentia

Leaving only about ten other formidable alliances that are legitimate targets.

Gunn3r: XeTa & FoS made a war pact, cooperating until FLTV was out of the picture.
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Mine is apparently that I am young, inexperienced and not being serious. Thanks for pointing that out for me btw, it would have taken me ages to think up for myself

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Read again.

Those three alliances are napped to ToT and Sapentia.

besides that they allow any alliances bar VoM in their gals. I can easily see the stagnation and arbiter violation chaos, that will come from this.
Eclipse/Elysium forbid NoS.... NoS forbids both the other blocks in gals. So most gals will probably be limited to 1 blocks. There will allways be some gals with more then 1 block. But most of thoose will pick a side if there will become another war after VoM is smashed. My gal did in round 6 and in round 5 aswell... heh.. I know others where fence sitting on both sides and in both wars. But this is a smaller universe. If u don't pick sides u have no targets. There will be 2 great wars next round. I just hope we can enjoy the VoM "war" for a long time.
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That's it,

I want to join the alliance which will win.

Could this alliance step forward and please recruit me?
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They're napped.

Non-Agression-Pact

PEE or WEE or EEP or whatever, napped ToT and Sapentia

Leaving only about ten other formidable alliances that are legitimate targets.

Gunn3r: XeTa & FoS made a war pact, cooperating until FLTV was out of the picture.
This is not 100% correct.

Elysium and Fury are allied with ToT.
Not napped.
It is WP and Sapientia which are napped to ToT.

Looks like Fury is going to destroy VOM with masses of flak alliances. Then going to eat their own flak. Will be a very, very boring round if all this comes announced.

Let's hope the next 4 weeks will change at least some of the current alliance ties...

[Edit] Excuse me, but Fury just renamed in my eyes. Therefore no Eclipse for me. [/EDIT]
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This is not 100% correct.

Elysium and Fury are allied with ToT.
Not napped.
It is WP and Sapientia which are napped to ToT.

Looks like Fury is going to destroy VOM with masses of flak alliances. Then going to eat their own flak. Will be a very, very boring round if all this comes announced.

Let's hope the next 4 weeks will change at least some of the current alliance ties...
I doubt it very much, you seem to discount the third power block entirely in the name of crap attempts at "propaganda".
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Does anyone remember the time when people "in the know" had the grace not to post intelligence on the forums just to score "cheap points" ?

From what I can see WEE are building galaxies with 6 members from their block which gives them almost total control, how is that any different from you building VoM galaxies (I guarantee they won't be purely VoM and I can cite examples) ? To be honest I'd say Eclipse, Elysium, Wolfpack, ToT and Sapientia is a good match for ViruS, Olympians and Madcows, you can't just say that because there are five alliances against three that it's an unfair fight (As Viper has just tried to) if anything with the huge amount of talent Olympians can draw on the odds are still stacked against the WEETS side.

The VoM HCs with a FLVTT background should think back to Round 6, Grendal taught me a valuable lesson during the build up to the round. There are two blocks are both claiming they'll work independently and of course you'll do anything to stop them co-operating against you just like we tried to do. Now think about your actions, your incessant whining, your accusations, your posting of logs and your flames, do you really think this will discourage them from working against you ? Or do you think that will encourage them to want to kill you off first before fighting it out one on one ? The lesson was that behind the scenes diplomacy does a lot more good than public spectacles do. Perhaps you should heed this Web Angel because far from banish your "bad guy" image you've actually managed to enhance it and add a tinge of desperation.

I do find its odd that Caliban claims Eclipse are a strong attacking alliance considering their roots are in Fury.
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All our gals will be 100% VOM or wont get any protection, our policy is very clear here. And don't give me any lesson on my image or reputation I don't have any to receive from you.
Any fair fight VOM vs WEEST even it is not really fair can be acceptable and challenging enough to give us a funny round. Add to that the rest of the universe and its not ballanced at all. No need to be a fortune teller to see that... Some evil powerblockers needed an excuse to get more and more alliances on their side because they are weak when they are fighting 1 vs 1. VOM has been that excuse period.
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yes, very boring..

there no doubt will be a 3rd block, i dont see 2 blocks argueing as there is to many alliances to have 2 blocks, so we should wait for the other block to make some comments.
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Any fair fight VOM vs WEEST even it is not really fair can be acceptable and challenging enough to give us a funny round. Add to that the rest of the universe and its not ballanced at all. No need to be a fortune teller to see that... Some evil powerblockers needed an excuse to get more and more alliances on their side because they are weak when they are fighting 1 vs 1. VOM has been that excuse period.
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This is not 100% correct.

Elysium and Fury are allied with ToT.
Not napped.
It is WP and Sapientia which are napped to ToT.

Looks like Fury is going to destroy VOM with masses of flak alliances. Then going to eat their own flak. Will be a very, very boring round if all this comes announced.

Let's hope the next 4 weeks will change at least some of the current alliance ties...

[Edit] Excuse me, but Fury just renamed in my eyes. Therefore no Eclipse for me. [/EDIT]
Ok. You are definately not 100% correct. Thats totally wrong in itself.

As for Eclipse simply being a rename you are thinking with your arse I see. If we wish to continue calling Eclipse a 'new Fury' then we must all call Oly a new Titans.

The command staff in Eclipse is not the same as the one in Fury. The structure is not the same. We are a different alliance entirely. I already posted how by such idiotic assumptions then we should all refer to Legion as Concordium. And Deus as BlueTuba.
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All our gals will be 100% VOM or wont get any protection, our policy is very clear here. And don't give me any lesson on my image or reputation I don't have any to receive from you.
Any fair fight VOM vs WEEST even it is not really fair can be acceptable and challenging enough to give us a funny round. Add to more and more alliances on their side because they are weak wthat the rest of the universe and its not ballanced at all. No need to be a fortune teller to see that... Some evil powerblockers needed an excuse to get hen they are fighting 1 vs 1. VOM has been that excuse period.
I'm sure you don't need any advice from me especially after this master peice of a public relations effort. I doubt this gives you any clues as to why the whole universe is forming up against your block does it ?

That's an odd policy as I can name several members of a joint RaH and =V= galaxy, will =V= simply abandon their members in these galaxies simply for having friends in neutral alliances ? Sounds like a lot of fun in the VoM block ! win, WIN, WIN !
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And pray tell, what was wrong with Titans and LDK vs Fury last round?
Nothing, Titans/LDK/ViruS and Section were the problem.

Oh right ! I remeber they never worked together from the onset did they ? *WINK*
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