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Unread 3 Oct 2008, 15:48   #1
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Captured Roids Return with Fleet

Simple as it says, any roids you capture actually have to come back with the attacking.

Any returning roids do not contribute to your planet until the fleet holding them returns.

Yes i'm guessing this has been suggested before.
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Re: Captured Roids Return with Fleet

While I dont particularly like this one (I want my roids now) it makes more sense to me than what is currently in place.
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Re: Captured Roids Return with Fleet

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Yes i'm guessing this has been suggested before.
You are correct, the only drawback ( other than the lack of an immediate benefit ) is more of a semantic problem
'what happens if they capture roids, but are entirely stolen so there is no fleet to return with them, what happens to the roids - do they stay where they are or return with the person who stole the ships'
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Re: Captured Roids Return with Fleet

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You are correct, the only drawback ( other than the lack of an immediate benefit ) is more of a semantic problem
'what happens if they capture roids, but are entirely stolen so there is no fleet to return with them, what happens to the roids - do they stay where they are or return with the person who stole the ships'
Don't steal ships shoot before roiders these days though?
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Re: Captured Roids Return with Fleet

They do, yes

So there will be a fleet returning if there are capped roids regardless
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Re: Captured Roids Return with Fleet

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You are correct, the only drawback ( other than the lack of an immediate benefit ) is more of a semantic problem
'what happens if they capture roids, but are entirely stolen so there is no fleet to return with them, what happens to the roids - do they stay where they are or return with the person who stole the ships'
"If a fleet is destroyed, while out on a mission, the fleet slot will take 1 tick to return."

Thats in the manual anyway.
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Re: Captured Roids Return with Fleet

I like it, a simple retall launched later as u do, wont be taking your gained roids, only steal from what u had in base.

and one tick battles makes sure u wont lose capped roids, since u aint online to recall.
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Re: Captured Roids Return with Fleet

This has been done before and I didn't like it then.

Also, imagine you are a small planet who gets roided most nights. If your raid lands at 12 noon and you get the roids instantly as with the current system you can mine those roids for maybe 24 hours before the next hostile fleet lands on you and takes them away.

With your suggested system such a planet would not be able to mine those roids for a further 8, 9 or 10 hours when their fleet returned to base. I don't think that this is a good thing.
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Re: Captured Roids Return with Fleet

I like the system. it was implemented ways back when.
logic should be the driving force of progress.
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Re: Captured Roids Return with Fleet

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This has been done before and I didn't like it then.

Also, imagine you are a small planet who gets roided most nights. If your raid lands at 12 noon and you get the roids instantly as with the current system you can mine those roids for maybe 24 hours before the next hostile fleet lands on you and takes them away.

With your suggested system such a planet would not be able to mine those roids for a further 8, 9 or 10 hours when their fleet returned to base. I don't think that this is a good thing.
It usually goes like this.

1. I launch my attacking fleet.
2. I get incoming which lands on or after I land my fleet.
3. I steal roids and are added to my planets roids, fleet sets off for home.
4. My incoming steals my stolen roids (see #3), and some of my roids thats at my planet.
5. My fleet returns to a fanfare of a good attack, then suicides because all the roids are gone.

My way

1. I launch my attacking fleet.
2. I get incoming which lands on or after I land my fleet.
3. I steal roids and are added to my attacking fleet, fleet sets off for home.
4. My incoming only steals roids at my planet.
5. My fleet returns to a fanfare of a good attack, captured roids are placed into planetary orbit.

This way you will have roids once your fleet gets back, so for at least 12 ticks (ish) you have the bonus of actual roids.
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Re: Captured Roids Return with Fleet

maybe mine the roids you're bringing back at 25 or 50% efficiency while they're returning? hell idunno. i can see both sides of the argument as valid. this won't change people in fenced gals very much, but would be more for those with constant incomings.
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