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Unread 12 Jun 2006, 12:19   #101
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**** this - i'm just gonna ask Idi whether i should change my password.
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out
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Those were people who had changed their password I believe.
I didn't change my password.
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Unread 12 Jun 2006, 12:22   #103
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out
JUST ****ING CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD AND IT WILL BE ****ING FINE WILL YOU ****ING PEOPLE NOT ****ING LISTEN IT'S NOT THAT ****ING DIFFICULT OR REQUIRING THAT MUCH ****ING EFFORT.
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Unread 12 Jun 2006, 12:23   #104
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not to be funny, as i dont want to brag as i feel guilty about the entire thing, all the people who didnt get the messages and dont think they were hacked

they were

im only mentioning it so if the admins release some announcement telling people to do stuff or something, you concider yourself in the same boat and follow suit.
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yup

there is no need to worry panic or be concerned though

all my code, the exploits, everything is deleted, i never had any malicious intent, i only used a few of the accounts to posrep me when i was testing the tools i was writing

quite simply, im very very sorry
For anyone who's interested.
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Unread 12 Jun 2006, 12:30   #105
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out
Somehow I imagine that people who are worried about having their accounts accessed by someone else might need something a little stronger than the word of the guy who accessed them originally that it can't happen again. Ergo, please change them.

There is also a chance that someone bar idimmu had access to the file originally and still the list of encrypted passwords or whatever it is.
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out
Answer to my question:

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Yes everyone should change their forums password I'm afraid.

People that think they are safe because they got the '5 failed attempts' email *aren't* safe at all and should also change their passwords.
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WHY THE **** DON'T PEOPLE LISTEN TO ME I SAID THIS FORTY ****ING POSTS AGO?
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JUST ****ING CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD AND IT WILL BE ****ING FINE WILL YOU ****ING PEOPLE NOT ****ING LISTEN IT'S NOT THAT ****ING DIFFICULT OR REQUIRING THAT MUCH ****ING EFFORT.
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WHY THE **** DON'T PEOPLE LISTEN TO ME I SAID THIS FORTY ****ING POSTS AGO?
So you reckon I should change it as well then?
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So you reckon I should change it as well then?
No, personally I'm hoping you leave it as it is and somebody steals your soul somehow.
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WHY THE **** DON'T PEOPLE LISTEN TO ME I SAID THIS FORTY ****ING POSTS AGO?
As always, a full explanation of what happened at the start could have probably saved a lot of questions.
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As always, a full explanation of what happened at the start could have probably saved a lot of questions.
As I said I can't explain it, I don't have a clue how he did it. However from listening to appoco, megla and idimmu himself I knew that changing your password would make it irrelevant.

Why don't you listen to me guys, when have I let you down?
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I don't have any idea why people would want to access my account but since JBG says we have to change it, I guess I have no choice eh?
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As I said I can't explain it, I don't have a clue how he did it.
Yeah I wasn't blaming you personally dude, but I'm sure you could have done a joint statement with those that can explain it.

I doubt anyone doesn't believe you but if I got home tonight and my landlord was there and said "Erm...you might want to change the lock on your front door. See you later!" I might want to know a little more.
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Yeah I wasn't blaming you personally dude, but I'm sure you could have done a joint statement with those that can explain it.

I doubt anyone doesn't believe you but if I got home tonight and my landlord was there and said "Erm...you might want to change the lock on your front door. See you later!" I might want to know a little more.
Advice noted, but I don't really want to say anything as I'm not 100% sure the hole is actually fixed yet.
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This would never have happened in Nazi Germany.
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So when is idi getting unbanned?

Oh btw, to the person that repped "noone cares how much you know aobut encryption, shut up" I was trying to explain the ways of how it happened - kthnxbye.
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Is there a nice easy way to change my password without having to remember what my current one is? If there is will someone please let me know, as I'm buggered if I can remember it.
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Is there a nice easy way to change my password without having to remember what my current one is? If there is will someone please let me know, as I'm buggered if I can remember it.
If you still use the same email address you can presumably get it sent to that...?
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Jonny ftw \o/

I dont want to go into too much detail but tbh it was nothing to do with the current staff of the PA forums and the **** up was not actually our fault at all.


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If you use the forgotten password function the system resets it for you and you can then change it from whatever it randomly emails you.
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Why don't you listen to me guys, when have I let you down? :(


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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out
Ok let me spell it out:

Yes, I understand how it was done.
No, we're not going to say until we're certain the problems at our end are resolved.

If you don't change your password, in theory your account can still be accessed by anyone with a copy of the file concerned, even when we're sorted at our end. Even taking idi at his word, there's always a chance someone else found the file as well and hasn't realised the potential of what it contains yet.

If you do change your password, you are absolutely immune from this vulnerability. Whether you're bothered about your account is up to you.
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I don't think I ever claimed I could help as regards the technical side of the forums




Unless you'd also like to blame me for world hunger and the armenian holocaust?
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I don't think I ever claimed I could help as regards the technical side of the forums :confused:


You asked when you had ever let us down. You may only be a Air hostess but if the pilot decides to just up and leave the cockpit and the plane crashes then the airline has still let its passengers down *shrug*
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You asked when you had ever let us down. You may only be a Air hostess but if the pilot decides to just up and leave the cockpit and the plane crashes then the airline has still let its passengers down *shrug*
I know this may come as a surprise to you but I'm not an airline dude.
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I know this may come as a surprise to you but I'm not an airline dude.


ohhhh ok then
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I'm really not quite sure what you're saying. You'd blame the air hostess if the pilot left the cockpit and crashed the plane?

My point was I'm neither an airline nor the textual personification of the forums.
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I'm really not quite sure what you're saying. You'd blame the air hostess if the pilot left the cockpit and crashed the plane?
Collective responsibility dude.
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Collective responsibility dude.
Is the battlecry of the terminally shit.
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Collective responsibility dude. :(


*ding* *ding* *ding* *ding*

correct answer

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I feel compelled to repeat Jonny's previous statement that the current situation was brought about by previous "employees" of Planetarion, not us forums bods.
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Is the battlecry of the terminally shit.


uhhh hmmmmm
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*ding* *ding* *ding* *ding*

correct answer

we have a winner \o/
I don't take responsibility for other people's mistakes. Maybe I can blame you for not being a mod, not knowing the technical side of the forums and not solving this before it happens. In short, **** off.
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Depends if the air hostess was inducting you into the 1609m ASL club at the time of the captain's jumping ship.

I'm not sure I could be mad at the airline dying under those circumstances.

Were you JBG? Comforting any of the 'passengers' on the good ship Forums?

Eh?

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How the **** can you actually blame me for this? This problem originally occurred before I was part of the team in a different section to anything I'm responsible for. Never mind blaming the air hostess you're blaming the guy in accounts who was hired after the plane crash. **** you.
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I feel compelled to repeat Jonny's previous statement that the current situation was brought about by previous "employees" of Planetarion, not us forums bods.


Everything wrong with Britain today is the fault of John Major.
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No dude, this is more like blaming the current german administration for invading Poland in 1939.
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If John Major screwed something up on his own, didn't realise the implications, didn't tell anyone he was doing it, then forgot about it and left the government, your analogy is accurate.
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I don't take responsibility for other people's mistakes. Maybe I can blame you for not being a mod, not knowing the technical side of the forums and not solving this before it happens. In short, **** off.
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How the **** can you actually blame me for this? This problem originally occurred before I was part of the team in a different section to anything I'm responsible for. Never mind blaming the air hostess you're blaming the guy in accounts who was hired after the plane crash. **** you.


Like i said, i blame "the airline".
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Like i said, i blame "the airline".
Like I said, I'm not an airline. (You see you ****ing retard I was responding within your analogy.)
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People should pay more attention to what I'm saying
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Theres a tendency for successful people to take responsible for everything that happens [...] whether it is actually their fault or not, whereas losers often try to shift as much as possible away from themselves.


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This is certainly headed into Clownshoe Corner territory. Bravo, players, bravo!
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If John Major screwed something up on his own, didn't realise the implications, didn't tell anyone he was doing it, then forgot about it and left the government, your analogy is accurate.
I'm pretty sure the government apologises for things that weren't the current administrations fault, I think the point of being a leader is that you're supposed to embody the regime or something.
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I'm not immediately aware of any case in government which fits the analogy I used. Although I'm open to corrections of course.
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I'm pretty sure the government apologises for things that weren't the current administrations fault, I think the point of being a leader is that you're supposed to embody the regime or something.
Yeah. Because that's the model of organisation we should be trying to emulate. Modern western government
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