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Unread 24 Mar 2015, 12:11   #101
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Nooooo, stop telling BB how things actually are, he surely knows better about other tags (especially those he isn't a part of).
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Nooooo, stop telling BB how things actually are, he surely knows better about other tags (especially those he isn't a part of).
It's ok, BB is just trying to bait someone because he is lonely and needs someone to talk to, i was happy to endulge him last night.
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You could just go look at the history page, and count all the nicks from R51 who isnt in Vikings R52. Id be suprised it 75% of the TGV tag was with Viks the next round
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r51 end of round: The Galactic Vikings had 51 planets
r52 end of round: Vikings had 50 planets

Number of planets that were in 'The Galactic Vikings' at the end of round 51 and that were in 'Vikings' at the end of round 52: 27

Number of planets that were in 'The Galactic Vikings' at the end of round 51 and that were not in 'Vikings' at the end of round 52: 13 (11 planets did not play or used a different nickname)

Out of these 13 planets:
  • 1 went to Conspiracy
  • 1 went to FAnG
  • 1 went to Innuendo
  • 3 had no alliance at end of round 52
  • 1 went to Spore
  • 5 went to Ultores
  • 1 went to xVx





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At a quick glance in R52 we took in a maximum of 5 players (an Apprime BG) that had no prior history with TGV at all, the rest had all been TGV members in at least 3 of the rounds TGV played since r41
Number of nicknames that were in Vikings at end of round 52 but were not part of TGV prior to r52: 14 (4 of which appear to be new players)
Number of nicknames that were in Vikings at end of round 52 but were part of TGV for 1 rounds since r41: 5
Number of nicknames that were in Vikings at end of round 52 but were part of TGV for 2 rounds since r41: 9
Number of nicknames that were in Vikings at end of round 52 but were part of TGV for 3 rounds since r41: 12
Number of nicknames that were in Vikings at end of round 52 but were part of TGV for 4+ rounds since r41: 10
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So Influence is caught lying again?
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So Influence is caught lying again?
lying, or simply miss-remembering 9 rounds ago?
So slightly more than half of members remained as a core, seems reasonable to me. Without a knowledge of what the average turnover between rounds of an alliance actually is it is pretty meaningless... I certainly got the impression that at least a third of P3nguins last round were new to the alliance even without there having been any problems the previous round.

In any event the ups and downs of TGV's member-base dont seem very relevant to me. Even if you are right and there is a cost to being perceived to be the cause of stagnation in the form of losses next round then that is both a hidden and a delayed cost that is weighed against the immediate and much more obvious benefits of allying with the power of the moment.
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Unread 24 Mar 2015, 18:11   #107
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lying, or simply miss-remembering 9 rounds ago?
So slightly more than half of members remained as a core, seems reasonable to me. Without a knowledge of what the average turnover between rounds of an alliance actually is it is pretty meaningless... I certainly got the impression that at least a third of P3nguins last round were new to the alliance even without there having been any problems the previous round.

In any event the ups and downs of TGV's member-base dont seem very relevant to me. Even if you are right and there is a cost to being perceived to be the cause of stagnation in the form of losses next round then that is both a hidden and a delayed cost that is weighed against the immediate and much more obvious benefits of allying with the power of the moment.
Well the discussion was more or less about if stagnating the round would come with a price.
The fact that "Vikings" were thrown out of "TGV" is just a example on how bad attitude to fair play can affect a alliance in the next round of PA.
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Well the discussion was more or less about if stagnating the round would come with a price.
The fact that "Vikings" were thrown out of "TGV" is just a example on how bad attitude to fair play can affect a alliance in the next round of PA.
Yes but my point was that the price you demonstrate would have little deterrence effect on the practices you wish to stamp out because the price is delayed, and not at all obvious that it will occur.
Say looking into the future to weigh the possible effects for the ally of this round's conduct upon next round does occur in a dealmaking situation and features prominently in the calculus of whether to do whatever deal is in prospect. Then the deal-maker considering these long term effects would have to think about the opposite possibility whereby an alliance that did not make deals and thus suffered for being on the wrong side of politics might result in an equally serious loss of membership. One could point to p3nguins atm.
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Well the discussion was more or less about if stagnating the round would come with a price.
The fact that "Vikings" were thrown out of "TGV" is just a example on how bad attitude to fair play can affect a alliance in the next round of PA.
a) It wasn't due to stagnating the round, it was due to the fact we kicked 9-10 members on the last day, as there was a strong rumour Apprime were gonna kick members in the last tick to make us win. Our HC team felt apprime deserved the round win, and none of us wanted to win through apprime 'sacrificing' theirs, so we decided to kick members until we were below FAnG as we knew Apprime wouldn't sacrifice their win to them. Kargool didn't agree with this, as he felt it was cheating the end rankings. He even approached me multiple times that round on how well we were doing on politics, standing by our agreements.
b) If stagnating came at such a significant price, shouldn't the same price have hampered our ability to recruit members for r52, especially with what was going on with our namechange?


BTW, i am not claiming there is no price to creating a stale political environment, but it's hardly as big as you suggest, especially for r51/52 a whole lot of other internal issues were faced by us, which was what led to our struggles in r53/54. And as Londo suggest, perhaps not seizing the chance we had in r51 would have come at an even bigger price (and with the knowledge of our internal issues, i'm inclined to say it would have)
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BTW, i am not claiming there is no price to creating a stale political environment, but it's hardly as big as you suggest, especially for r51/52 a whole lot of other internal issues were faced by us, which was what led to our struggles in r53/54. And as Londo suggest, perhaps not seizing the chance we had in r51 would have come at an even bigger price (and with the knowledge of our internal issues, i'm inclined to say it would have)
Well with ODDR and the large amount of Apprimes joining in, you couldnt have recruit that many
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Re: R61 predictions

And im sure, it usualy will hamper your chances in future rounds when you keep dicking up rounds for planet ranks/personal favours to other HCs/alliances.
If BF comes in a two way race vs CT or Ult this round, im sure most of the univers will be hoping its not BF winning, atleast i would be helping out the alliance that BF is competing against if it were my choice to make
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Most of the universe? Since when do you represent everyone else? The hate only lays with you BB. I don't see anyone else with as much hate towards a single alliance.

I find your posts quite hypocritical; you whine when BF doesn't play with ambition and that they're "ruining the game", yet IF they do, you want to destroy them.

If you put as much work into your own alliance than you did criticising others, then maybe your own tag would be able to compete for the #1 spot, but you choose to dick around on the forums embarrassing yourself.

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/me starts the slow clap

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Re: R61 predictions

I'm also a bit tired of his "I dont want to start a war with BF, nor influence others to do so" then constantly bashes them here saying if it were up to him they would be getting hit.

That logic.
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or simply miss-remembering 9 rounds ago?
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This is what he always does: stir shit up, then pretend he speaks for everyone.
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Re: R61 predictions

If X or Y, or Z comes into a position where they will have to choose wether to help out BF or just do what BF did to the rest of the univers the last two round, why would they help them out?
If you constantly keep fcking up others with your politics, should you except to get favours in return?
Im not sure.
If it was all down to my opinion, i would surely not be giving them a helping hand if i belive they wouldnt do the same thing back to me
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If he is not remebering things 9 rounds back, perhaps its best to avoid stating stuff that will be proven false
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Well with ODDR and the large amount of Apprimes joining in, you couldnt have recruit that many
Out of the 36 players that finished with ODDR in r51, 8 came to Vikings, That's hardly 'ODDR joining in'. furthermore, of those 8, 3 had played with Vikings in either r46, r49 or r50

After factchecking what i said earlier about the 5 apprime, only 2 players that were apprime at the end of r51, were Vikings at the end of r52. I thought 3 of the people who came from ODDR came from Apprime by mistake, not a big surprise because between r41-r51 i played 4 rounds in other allies where i met some of the new people who played with vikings in r52, which also explains why i thought i knew people from (multiple) rounds in TGV. (for the fact checkers among you, you will only find me in other allies in 3 rounds, as i was an out of tag player the 4th round)


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Re: R61 predictions

Now, can we get back on the topic of r61 predictions?

I predict there will be quite some switching at the top. I think BF will win, but they will have to play their cards right for that. Question is... can they? 2nd will be whoever BF beats in the end, my guess is Ult. CT will become third with minimal difference to both ult and Faceless, but that will depend how early BF can get to a top position, and how wide their margin is. Faceless will loose out in the end as they will have to choose if they want top gal/planets or a shot at #1 alliance.

rogues will end 5th, with at least 1 of the top 3 planets, and one of their forts as a close contender for #1(losing out in the end to either a BF or Faceless fort).

6th is between p3n, rainbows and ND, while p3n will have 2-5 top 10 planets. Depending on how much contest there is for top 10 planets, they might not take #6. Rainbows will finish just above ND again.


P.S. Ult might become #1, if Clouds is in a tight contest for #1 and sacrifices ally spot for that.

througout the round politics might turn out to be more open than everyone expected before the round.
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Re: R61 predictions

I'm actually expecting more open politics too this round.

We'll see how it goes, there's not that many deals in the uni atm afaik, but it's early. I do keep hearing rumors from various sources tho... time will tell how true they are.

BB: What comes to helping hands... You've surely noticed how we've helped our friends, whoever they've been and whenever they've needed it. Last round we were blocked out of the alliance win race, with 20m score gap between us and ult (at that time) and at worst, 7 alliances hitting us, we had no chance to challenge for the top spot, so we had no reason whatsoever to start hitting Ult, or CT if they'd been in the top at the moment. Until that block started hitting us, we could have had a theoretical chance and might have acted on it, but the block made it impossible. So, rather than us spoiling the race and ****ing up the uni, it was (yet again) the uni ****ing both us and the race. Makes one wonder how much love and trust there can be for the uni when it constantly betrays you...
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I'm actually expecting more open politics too this round.

We'll see how it goes, there's not that many deals in the uni atm afaik, but it's early. I do keep hearing rumors from various sources tho... time will tell how true they are.

BB: What comes to helping hands... You've surely noticed how we've helped our friends, whoever they've been and whenever they've needed it. Last round we were blocked out of the alliance win race, with 20m score gap between us and ult (at that time) and at worst, 7 alliances hitting us, we had no chance to challenge for the top spot, so we had no reason whatsoever to start hitting Ult, or CT if they'd been in the top at the moment. Until that block started hitting us, we could have had a theoretical chance and might have acted on it, but the block made it impossible. So, rather than us spoiling the race and ****ing up the uni, it was (yet again) the uni ****ing both us and the race. Makes one wonder how much love and trust there can be for the uni when it constantly betrays you...
I'm sorry, but you can't really speak of 'the universe betraying you' when they make a fist against you after you have been 'preying' on them for the better part of the round first. That would be like me blaming fang/faceless for vikings not winning r56, when in fact it was our own political stubbornness that made us continuously attack them prior to them FC'ing us to pieces in the late round.
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Re: R61 predictions

Surely your not saying now that you were willing to break up the Ult NAP last round, but BowS where holding you back?

Lets be real, you had no incs last round.

Its quite obvious to me you are starting out in the same direction this round, hitting forts of lower tier alliances for what you belive to be easy roids
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Lets be real, you had no incs last round.
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I think the incoming stats tells a different story.

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Preround deals become bad when they are starting to affect the round in a negative way, stagnation.
If HR/ODDR/BowS/P3nguins/HODOR block together they prolly wont be able to take down BF/CT if they were a block.
Wtf are you talking about, we don't need others to take down CT/BF.
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I think the incoming stats tells a different story.

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Ah, yeah, the 4th most incs, hell for a hustler.
BowS couldnt land much roids on BF, and im sure 200 of those incs where from BowS going solo on BF early on
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If X or Y, or Z comes into a position where they will have to choose wether to help out BF or just do what BF did to the rest of the univers the last two round, why would they help them out?
If you constantly keep fcking up others with your politics, should you except to get favours in return?
Im not sure.
If it was all down to my opinion, i would surely not be giving them a helping hand if i belive they wouldnt do the same thing back to me

In this post Butcher basically says that no matter what Black Flag does, you shouldn't do anything to help them regardless of their history.

With an attitude like that then please tell me, what should Black Flag do in your humble opinion? It's doomed if it just helps another alliance to win and then also doomed if it doesn't as people should just kill them according to you.

I'm intrigued to why you feel another alliance should be punished constantly for previous rounds just because they didn't do the politics you wanted them too?

Did you vote for Spore to hit HR in every end of round survey we did? Sounds like it's more of a vendetta than actual logical political progression.
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If he is not remebering things 9 rounds back, perhaps its best to avoid stating stuff that will be proven false
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In this post Butcher basically says that no matter what Black Flag does, you shouldn't do anything to help them regardless of their history.

With an attitude like that then please tell me, what should Black Flag do in your humble opinion? It's doomed if it just helps another alliance to win and then also doomed if it doesn't as people should just kill them according to you.

I'm intrigued to why you feel another alliance should be punished constantly for previous rounds just because they didn't do the politics you wanted them too?

Did you vote for Spore to hit HR in every end of round survey we did? Sounds like it's more of a vendetta than actual logical political progression.
They should start thinking about the game more than their own ranks.
If they have stagnated the univers for 75% of the entire playerbase for two rounds running, are you actualy expecting them to come help you out if you need help?

Its nothing personal, but untill they come out publicly saying that they have changed their ways of play, if it was me running politics of a alliance, i would rather choose the other option if i had to choose between BF and someone else winning.

And to the last question im not sure wich of the countless surveys you are pointing towards.
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Well if he dont remeber, he should then say that he could aswell be incorrect, or look it up before posting.
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Well if he dont remeber, he should then say that he could aswell be incorrect, or look it up before posting.
which i did, by saying i only took a quick glance at our memberlist for r52.

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Well if he dont remeber, he should then say that he could aswell be incorrect, or look it up before posting.
Does anyone else appreciate the sheer irony in this? Coming from someone that's incorrect 90% of the time.
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They should start thinking about the game more than their own ranks.
If they have stagnated the univers for 75% of the entire playerbase for two rounds running, are you actualy expecting them to come help you out if you need help?.
Is that really all BlackFlag's fault though? From what I can tell they weren't entirely to blame for the universe existing as it was. Sure, they had an impact but then your own alliance had a deal with Ultores too (to my fuzzy memory of a round I didn't play or was involved in )

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Its nothing personal, but untill they come out publicly saying that they have changed their ways of play, if it was me running politics of a alliance, i would rather choose the other option if i had to choose between BF and someone else winning.
So are you saying that if Black Flag say in public they will aim for the #1 spot then you will dispense with your automatic "kill BF" agenda? Colour me intrigued to exactly what you're wanting. If you're just going to look to punish BF regardless of what they do this round then that will help all of us make decisions for the current round.

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And to the last question im not sure wich of the countless surveys you are pointing towards.
I'll jog your memory. At the end of every round Spore members were given a survey to fill out about rating aspects of Spore. One of the questions each round was to rate each alliance and whether we should be friendly, neutral or hostile to them.

HR naturally always received member pressure to be hostile too, a fact which annoyed various officers to when in the round we won I totally ignored the membership when making deals/talks with HR. We didn't carry over the grudge.
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If BF said what theyve done in the past is bad for the game, they would atleast have my respect.
Again im not doing politics for BowS, nor am i setting attacks, and BowS only attacks within raid or do retalls.
So unless BF hits BowS its very unlikely they will see much incs from me.

And its no secret ive always been very HR friendly, and that to my memory always encouraged Spore to deals with them
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So... we shouldn't play for ranks (any ranks, whatsoever), yet we should play for the win... We shouldn't have naps/other deals, but we shouldn't really hit anyone either, or we should only hit ULT/CT/FL (the other full tags this round), no matter what the smaller alliances do (Bows + P3n together make up for 73 members for example and since it was pre-round deal I dunno what to make up of it really). What we have done in the past was having strong allies, I can't see anything wrong with that.
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So... we shouldn't play for ranks (any ranks, whatsoever), yet we should play for the win... We shouldn't have naps/other deals, but we shouldn't really hit anyone either, or we should only hit ULT/CT/FL (the other full tags this round), no matter what the smaller alliances do (Bows + P3n together make up for 73 members for example and since it was pre-round deal I dunno what to make up of it really). What we have done in the past was having strong allies, I can't see anything wrong with that.
Play for ranks, but dont fck it up for the rest of the univers. Siding with #1 is getting tireing.
If you cripple the poltiics for other alliances also, you are ruining what could be open good rounds.
Its not fun when the winner is decided by politics pt400.

Dont do deals that you have no escape from, cus you could end up painting yourself in a corner.
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When we did the deals you talk about, we were not #1, nor was the other side of the deals #1... Maybe thanks to those deals we both have ended up in a decent rank... We worked with CT (was #4 when deal was made, we were #5), CT won, we worked with ULT (was rank #5 when deal was made, we were #4), ULT won etc. All our deals have a clause to end them gracefully (or a end date). And during all of those rounds, we've never been the single ally/nap for any tag (not even the longest deal), you just want a scapegoat to point fingers at.

"If you cripple the poltiics for other alliances also, you are ruining what could be open good rounds." ... I can't see how we cripple deals for others by having our own deals with whoever we choose to, unless you'd want deals with the same alliances and would like to cripple the open round yourself. Also, crippling deals for others is also a form of politics...

Who will you blame this round if Black Flag for some odd reason won? The allies we've had deals with during the round? Would they have spoiled the round for you, because they made a deal with us now (when we're #3), by siding with the winner before tick 400?
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When we did the deals you talk about, we were not #1, nor was the other side of the deals #1... Maybe thanks to those deals we both have ended up in a decent rank... We worked with CT (was #4 when deal was made, we were #5), CT won, we worked with ULT (was rank #5 when deal was made, we were #4), ULT won etc. All our deals have a clause to end them gracefully (or a end date). And during all of those rounds, we've never been the single ally/nap for any tag (not even the longest deal), you just want a scapegoat to point fingers at.

"If you cripple the poltiics for other alliances also, you are ruining what could be open good rounds." ... I can't see how we cripple deals for others by having our own deals with whoever we choose to, unless you'd want deals with the same alliances and would like to cripple the open round yourself. Also, crippling deals for others is also a form of politics...

Who will you blame this round if Black Flag for some odd reason won? The allies we've had deals with during the round? Would they have spoiled the round for you, because they made a deal with us now (when we're #3), by siding with the winner before tick 400?
i'm sorry, that's not good enough, you should disband and all leave the game so BB can win planet and gal and ally
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He'd still have to beat 1:1.
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I don't think you can criticize us when you napped Ultores yourselves, BB. Hypocrite much?

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ofc he can, he doesn't do bows politics.
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I don't think you can criticize us when you napped Ultores yourselves, BB. Hypocrite much?
We only had a temporaly NAP with Ultores.
It would probly ran out if BF/Viks hadnt been targetting us.
And we barely made 5th! We didnt fcking NAP out for ranks
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The sweet taste of salt, so... you couldn't end your nap with some ally because you were targeted by some other allys? ... isn't that just exactly what I said earlier and I was still doing something wrong? We barely made it 2nd too, I'd preferred first anyday. Also, our nap with ult had a 48 cooldown clause to end it at any given tick, so you could call that "temporary" as well.
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Why do you people even participate in this thread?

It's the same whining every round, just ignore Bitcher.
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lmao BB wants everyone to do what he wants to do and not spoil his own game... got news for you kid
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My prediction for Round 61 is that The Spider Colony will neither stagnate the universe, nor block against any one alliance, in an attempt to maintain a more open and attackable universe. They will also end attempt to beat all other 1 player alliances.
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Re: R61 predictions

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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher View Post
Play for ranks, but dont fck it up for the rest of the univers. Siding with #1 is getting tireing.
If you cripple the poltiics for other alliances also, you are ruining what could be open good rounds.
Its not fun when the winner is decided by politics pt400.

Dont do deals that you have no escape from, cus you could end up painting yourself in a corner.
This is political A-B-C
Glad to see not much has changed

One thing to remember our allies typically weren't number 1 when we made arrangements ... but we do support our allies and they do tend to end up in a better position being our ally ...
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Unread 7 May 2015, 21:45   #150
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Re: R61 predictions

With excactly 24 ticks left of this round, I'm predicting that either Ultores, CT, Faceless or BF will win the round.

BF is a stretch tho, depends on if they have hidden score out of tag.
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