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2 Mar 2003, 11:17
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Angry Young Man
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Can Newcastle REALLY win the premiership?
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P W D L F A GD PTS
1 Arsenal 28 18 6 4 62 30 32 60
2 Man Utd 28 16 7 5 45 26 19 55
3 Newcastle 28 17 4 7 47 33 14 55
4 Everton 29 14 7 8 38 34 4 49
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(Pre Arsenal-Charlton Table)
Can you really see newcastle winning the premiership?
Im personally starting to believe it. Bellamy and shearer are the best strike partnership in the premiership. Given is one of the best keepers in the premiership (certainly the best in the current top 4). Their supposedly "shaky" defence is by no means worse than Man Utd's. Speed is one of the most underrated solid players in the premiership. Dyer is the premierships form player atm (although he was taken off with an injury against chelsea, can anyone confirm this?). Viana is back from injury and has looked superb - two assists in two games, no? To be honest he looks to have the killer touch to link the midfield and attack that Scholes is missing at the moment. Remember this is all without jenas as well, who was in great form before his injury.
I think also, Newcastle have had drastically less luck than the other top teams this season. Less luck than Arsenal at any rate, who have left me banging my head off my desk as a result of their constant fortune. I think all neutrals want to see Newcastle win the premiership now their teams are out of contention. It would really wipe the smug grins off ****y Wenger and ****y Ferguson's faces.
Thoughts?
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2 Mar 2003, 11:39
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Dazed and Confused
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Not this season. They're all still learning and Arsenal are still too good.
But it will be interesting to see how teams approach them next season now they're recognised as one of the top 3 squads in the league.
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2 Mar 2003, 11:48
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Join Date: May 2001
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NO
Gooners for the treble
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2 Mar 2003, 12:47
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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I've supported Newcastle since I was 11! And that was when they were in the title race and lost to Man Utd. After that they became crap, and now they're good again. So they'll lose and get crap again. I don't think they will, but I do hope they come second above Man bloody U
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2 Mar 2003, 13:07
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THAT WOULD NOT BE FUNNY
SUNDERLAND REGULATED AND NEWCASTLE WINNERS
tho tbh
Sir Bob > *
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2 Mar 2003, 13:09
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Notice Me!!! Notice Me!!!
Join Date: May 2001
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Originally posted by Dreadnought!
SUNDERLAND REGULATED
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yep
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Originally Posted by pavil
He isn't what I would call a menace but he is like a child trapped in a fat child with cerebal palsy's body which is wrapped in denim.He seemed to always bitch at everything that ever happened ever even if it was a post that read "SUNDAY8PM IS THE KING OF THE SOCIAL SCENE!" he would still bitch about it. Oh and it's a well known fact that if you mash Sunday8pm's face into a keyboard, the words "More Hula Hoops Please" will mysteriously appear on screen every time.
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2 Mar 2003, 13:13
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Originally posted by Recon
yep
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stfu nobber
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2 Mar 2003, 13:26
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Angry Young Man
Join Date: Jul 2002
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sunderland deserve to go down for having the most pathetic forward line ive ever seen. Flo was **** at rangers, and hes **** for you. Kyle is ****, and yet gets a game for scotland because vogts is an ass. Phillips has been surviving on past glories for 2 seasons at least. And yet he still complains "give me service or ill leave, honest".
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2 Mar 2003, 13:38
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Notice Me!!! Notice Me!!!
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Originally posted by Dreadnought!
stfu nobber
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yes, clearly i'm the one who is a nobber
keep trying fatty
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Originally Posted by pavil
He isn't what I would call a menace but he is like a child trapped in a fat child with cerebal palsy's body which is wrapped in denim.He seemed to always bitch at everything that ever happened ever even if it was a post that read "SUNDAY8PM IS THE KING OF THE SOCIAL SCENE!" he would still bitch about it. Oh and it's a well known fact that if you mash Sunday8pm's face into a keyboard, the words "More Hula Hoops Please" will mysteriously appear on screen every time.
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2 Mar 2003, 13:44
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Join Date: Aug 2001
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Originally posted by Recon
yes, clearly i'm the one who is a nobber
keep trying fatty
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The english public should have payed for kevin phillips to move to a good team 2 years ago and we would currently have a world class striker. As for Newcastle, they cant win it but they surely have to be everyone's favourite (bar manure and gooner fans of course)
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2 Mar 2003, 13:47
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Notice Me!!! Notice Me!!!
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Originally posted by Booge8
The english public should have payed for kevin phillips to move to a good team 2 years ago and we would currently have a world class striker. As for Newcastle, they cant win it but they surely have to be everyone's favourite (bar manure and gooner fans of course)
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yep...and??
don't see the link between your post and the quoting of my previous post
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He isn't what I would call a menace but he is like a child trapped in a fat child with cerebal palsy's body which is wrapped in denim.He seemed to always bitch at everything that ever happened ever even if it was a post that read "SUNDAY8PM IS THE KING OF THE SOCIAL SCENE!" he would still bitch about it. Oh and it's a well known fact that if you mash Sunday8pm's face into a keyboard, the words "More Hula Hoops Please" will mysteriously appear on screen every time.
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2 Mar 2003, 14:10
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There is no reason why Newcastle cant finish second this season, Man U are more likley to drop points then Newcastle are and Man U have to come to Newcastle to play. Woodgate comming into the match has made all the other defenders thrive on the added pressure, and Woodgate is amazing anyway. Speed keeps the ball in the oponents half. Dyer is still suffering from shin splints a bit, thats probably only because of the ammount of running he does though. Next season we have got a much better chance of winning the premiership. The players are more experienced and generally better. The Champions league has helped us alot and Bobby Robson isnt a nob head like Fergie and Wenger 
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2 Mar 2003, 15:00
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(Original Question - No)
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Originally posted by Gitchin
..... Dyer is still suffering from shin splints a bit, thats probably only because of the ammount of running he does though.
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You can expoect Dyer to be injured at least once every 3 months, and have a serious injury every other year. He's a great lad, but extremely injury prone. I was surprised when he passed the physical at Newcastle tbh.
BTW, if you want to buy Ambrose and Bent, you wont get them for less than £4 million a piece. If you buy them, you win the premiership tbh. Bent is a multitude of times better than Lomana Tresor Lua Lua, and Ambrose is a lot better than Dyer was at his age.
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2 Mar 2003, 15:04
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Join Date: Nov 2000
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Re: Can Newcastle REALLY win the premiership?
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Originally posted by Deffeh
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Use the code tags muppet.
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2 Mar 2003, 15:35
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Originally posted by MT
(Original Question - No)
You can expoect Dyer to be injured at least once every 3 months, and have a serious injury every other year. He's a great lad, but extremely injury prone. I was surprised when he passed the physical at Newcastle tbh.
BTW, if you want to buy Ambrose and Bent, you wont get them for less than £4 million a piece. If you buy them, you win the premiership tbh. Bent is a multitude of times better than Lomana Tresor Lua Lua, and Ambrose is a lot better than Dyer was at his age.
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Jenas is better then Dyer was at his age, and dont forget Ameobi is amazing too. Hes improving all the time!
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2 Mar 2003, 16:33
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Motherfracker
Join Date: May 2001
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Arsenal are just too good
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2 Mar 2003, 19:34
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although im an Arsenal fan, i dont think that newcastle can do it for the next couple of seasons, i do however think they can trash man utd into third place.
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2 Mar 2003, 20:11
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lolly roffle
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Originally posted by Bloomers III
I've supported Newcastle since I was 11! ......I do hope they come second above Man bloody U
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That confused the hell out of me 
I dont think Newcastle will win, but it would be nice to see them do it. They are one of my favourite teams to watch and i've always respected Bobby Robson as a manager. Imo the one thing stopping Newcastle all the way is their strength in depth, with a full strength 11 they are as god as anyone, but if they pick up a few injuries the strength of the team drops.
Maybe if they had had a better start to the season they would be up on level points with Arsenal at this point, and then who knows what might have happened.
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2 Mar 2003, 21:46
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YES THEY CAN FS
(at least i hope they do)
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2 Mar 2003, 21:47
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Not a chance
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2 Mar 2003, 22:00
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The Bad Guy
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Newcastles team is vastly over-rated, and I cant see them doing it.
Anybody who rates Gary Speed or Keiron Dyer is a fag. Keiron Dier (describes him well no?) is so over rated, it makes me cry. And Speed is a solid midfielder, but hes not top half of the table class in my opinion.
The way arsenal have been playing, we deserve it. Ok, at times we have been lucky, but we've also been damn unlucky at times also, Liverpool grabbing two **** goals and pulling it back, Newcastle somehow pulling a draw out of us, etc.
When it comes down to class, Arsenal and Man Utd are the two to watch out for, Uniteds squad is still the strongest of any team in the country. But Arsenal are playing the most attractive and exciting football in the country this season, they should already have had it sown up, and probably would have if they had a decent striker to play up with Henry.
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2 Mar 2003, 22:13
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Wiltord, Bergkamp and Kanu are not decent strikers?
Many team would kill for one of them 
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2 Mar 2003, 22:23
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Angry Young Man
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Originally posted by Rids
Newcastles team is vastly over-rated, and I cant see them doing it.
Anybody who rates Gary Speed or Keiron Dyer is a fag. Keiron Dier (describes him well no?) is so over rated, it makes me cry. And Speed is a solid midfielder, but hes not top half of the table class in my opinion.
The way arsenal have been playing, we deserve it. Ok, at times we have been lucky, but we've also been damn unlucky at times also, Liverpool grabbing two **** goals and pulling it back, Newcastle somehow pulling a draw out of us, etc.
When it comes down to class, Arsenal and Man Utd are the two to watch out for, Uniteds squad is still the strongest of any team in the country. But Arsenal are playing the most attractive and exciting football in the country this season, they should already have had it sown up, and probably would have if they had a decent striker to play up with Henry.
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heh, arsenal claiming to be unlucky in the liverpool games is pure comedy. Dying swan jeffers, ashley 'sniped' cole, the list goes on.
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2 Mar 2003, 22:34
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Originally posted by Dreadnought!
THAT WOULD NOT BE FUNNY
SUNDERLAND REGULATED AND NEWCASTLE WINNERS
tho tbh
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Would make my day to see Newcastle be the ones to make survival impossible and religate Sunderland when we play you away soon
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2 Mar 2003, 22:47
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Originally posted by Rids
Newcastles team is vastly over-rated, and I cant see them doing it.
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Newcastle is not vastly over-rated at all. Bobby is building for the future, not this season, but maybe next. I see him at least managing Newcastle for another 1-5 seasons at least and its the young talent hes bringing in that will help secure Newcastles future. Unlike Arsenal who always do the quick fix of lets buy another French or Dutch player, Newcastle is actually helping English football buy bringing in and using home grown talent.
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Anybody who rates Gary Speed or Keiron Dyer is a fag. Keiron Dier (describes him well no?) is so over rated, it makes me cry. And Speed is a solid midfielder, but hes not top half of the table class in my opinion.
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Gary Speed has had a rough patch, but in all he is a solid midfielder, he may not be the most technically gifted, or fastest alive, but he is good. Actions speak louder than words, and he certainly performs good while under Bobby. Kieron Dyer is certainly not over rated. He is a world class player, you are just blinded and naive that you can't see that. His work rate, vision and runs are second to none, as is his twin Jermaine Jenus.
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The way arsenal have been playing, we deserve it. Ok, at times we have been lucky, but we've also been damn unlucky at times also, Liverpool grabbing two **** goals and pulling it back, Newcastle somehow pulling a draw out of us, etc.
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Newcaslte deserved that draw and more in my opinion.
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When it comes down to class, Arsenal and Man Utd are the two to watch out for, Uniteds squad is still the strongest of any team in the country. But Arsenal are playing the most attractive and exciting football in the country this season, they should already have had it sown up, and probably would have if they had a decent striker to play up with Henry.
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Arsenal at the moment are not something to be scared of in the long run. Your squad may be strong, but its all pre-made transfers, you have very little young players with maybe the exception of Ashely Cole and Jeffers (****e player).
Newcastle are the brightest of the bunch, with 55k fans packing St. James every week you'll soon be cursing us more often.
Also Shearer > Henry. Hes still the best overall stricker by far playing in this league.
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