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Unread 7 Jan 2003, 17:11   #101
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my points about 8 1/2"
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on a slight side note, does anyone know what the sister who wouldnt be on the osbornes look like? did she get all the looks in the family? or is she as dog ugly as the rest?
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heh... same thing...

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on a slight side note, does anyone know what the sister who wouldnt be on the osbornes look like? did she get all the looks in the family? or is she as dog ugly as the rest?

Yeah shes better looking. She changed her name as well to Avril lavigne so that there is no association with the rest of the family.
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Yeah shes better looking. She changed her name as well to Avril lavigne so that there is no association with the rest of the family.
'Avril Lavigne'

Sounds like a stagename worthy of your R7 gal, hehe
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'Avril Lavigne'

Sounds like a stagename worthy of your R7 gal, hehe

Thats very true but then again so does

Kelly Osbourne of "there she blows" not that Im saying that she looks like a whale.

More like a seal
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avril lavigne would make more noise, that you could record, and sell to the sun. plus shes probably a minx.

i'm sure some women might have a point or two...if they could afford the surgery.
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well its not him exactly - its kinda the sad twatish 11-15 year olds who apply twatishly done make up to their faces, buy some leathers and call themselves 'goth' for attention bah! nothing against his music in particular - more what he has created. Actually i like most of his music. The lyrics are actually quite good.
I think i had that discussion with you in the pub at the Pr0nstars meet did i not?

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well its not him exactly - its kinda the sad twatish 11-15 year olds who apply twatishly done make up to their faces, buy some leathers and call themselves 'goth' for attention bah!
What exactly is a good reason for putting makeup on one's face? The only two real reasons I can think of is
(a) It get's you more/better attention (lo women)
(b) It makes you feel better about yourself (probably linked to (a) anyway).

What does one have to do to be a "real goth"? I mean, the only difference between the 11-15 year old kids with stupid makeup I see hanging around the side of Waitrose in Bromley South and the 16-50 year old goths in Camden Town is a slight degree of scariness.

Also, I'm not exactly clear what constitutes "rock" music. I mean, it either means some sort of descendent of the rhytm & blues/country & western hybrid circa 1950's America (generally performed with guitars) or it means some sort of undefinable "attitude". How many lots of heroin do you have to do before you're genuine rock? How many hotel rooms do you have to ruin, etc?

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Avril, et al are music industry whores but I would say they loosely fit into a "rock" category, far more than Manson's example of Westlife earlier.

As for the attitude, it seems to me that it's a combination of the usual teenage rebellion stuff (although it's not particularly "smash the state"-esque) combined with some sort of very weak assertion of white culture.
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I think i had that discussion with you in the pub at the Pr0nstars meet did i not?

Inbetween comments about Desse's sexual habits :P
yeah i believe that did come up in conversation, but desse's sexual habits shouldn't really be discussed here, (there are youngsters reading this don't forget )
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What does one have to do to be a "real goth"? I mean, the only difference between the 11-15 year old kids with stupid makeup I see hanging around the side of Waitrose in Bromley South and the 16-50 year old goths in Camden Town is a slight degree of scariness.

LOL, looking out my work window i'm looking at Bromley-south station/waitrose and these are the kind i'm talking about, (they now hang outside the 'HMV' in Bromley if you know the area )

and to answer your question, being 'goth' is not what you wear, theres been a debate i started on this before, and basically imo its about your way of thinking/state of mind, music you listen to, interests and tastes in architechture etc, its not really about wearing makeup or the clothes you wear. Goths are among us, and you wouldn't even know it! (be afraid.................)


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LOL, looking out my work window i'm looking at Bromley-south station/waitrose and these are the kind i'm talking about, (they now hang outside the 'HMV' in Bromley if you know the area )

and to answer your question, being 'goth' is not what you wear, theres been a debate i started on this before, and basically imo its about your way of thinking/state of mind, music you listen to, interests and tastes in architechture etc, its not really about wearing makeup or the clothes you wear. Goths are among us, and you wouldn't even know it! (be afraid.................)
The conformity of 'goths' seems slightly ironic, but when confronted with this simple notion they go off on one generally damning my eyes.

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vapmy has posted a pretty good explanation of what a goth is before, if you are interested i am sure it could be found or you could ask her i am sure she will still have a copy of the article somewhere
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vapmy has posted a pretty good explanation of what a goth is before, if you are interested i am sure it could be found or you could ask her i am sure she will still have a copy of the article somewhere
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LOL, looking out my work window i'm looking at Bromley-south station/waitrose and these are the kind i'm talking about, (they now hang outside the 'HMV' in Bromley if you know the area )

and to answer your question, being 'goth' is not what you wear, theres been a debate i started on this before, and basically imo its about your way of thinking/state of mind, music you listen to, interests and tastes in architechture etc, its not really about wearing makeup or the clothes you wear. Goths are among us, and you wouldn't even know it! (be afraid.................)
Do you know a band called 'Miss Bromley' the lead singer is a mate of mine from uni... If you don't - look out for them, they are really good...
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Do you know a band called 'Miss Bromley' the lead singer is a mate of mine from uni... If you don't - look out for them, they are really good...

a band called 'miss bromley' do they wear huge gold earings and look like something out of the 'Slater' family (as most girls in Bromley do) *sighs*
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a band called 'miss bromley' do they wear huge gold earings and look like something out of the 'Slater' family (as most girls in Bromley do) *sighs*
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Unread 8 Jan 2003, 11:22   #126
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no, they're all male...
What style of music? any other info on em?
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What style of music? any other info on em?
Indie, i think they're all from Bromley but they usually play in Kentish Town...
They have a brilliant song called "Kinky house of sex" which is based on my mates house from last year...
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Goth is not about a way of thinking. This is a claim made by pretensious goths, (Alright, seriously pretensious goths.) or similar high-thinking 'alternative' types and it is completely unsubstaniated self-flattery.

You can't actually substantiate it, unless you asked every goth in the world what their way of thinking was on things, and then made little charts out of it. So far, that hasn't happened, so therefore it is absurd to say "All goths think this", or "Goth is about XYZ" when we have no actual evidence of that.

Goths are a group of people that have a general intrest in the same sorts of clothes and music, etc. This we do have evidence of. There are observable and generally accepted trends in music and fashion, at least, there should be to anyone who has ever been around goths for long. They are not all super-intelligent, and they are not all philosophising non-conformists that distance themselves from society. Lordy, I don't.

Oh, and it is not about rebelling or provoking, as far as I'm aware or concerned. Goths wear those clothes and listen to that music because they actually like it, bizzarely.

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Goth is not about a way of thinking. This is a claim made by pretensious goths, (Alright, seriously pretensious goths.) or similar high-thinking 'alternative' types and it is completely unsubstaniated self-flattery.

Goths are a group of people that have a general intrest in the same sorts of clothes and music, etc. They are not all super-intelligent, and they are not all philosophising non-conformists that distance themselves from society. Lordy, I don't.
maybe you just arent a real goth
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maybe you just arent a real goth
That's possible, since there is no universal definition of what it about. I think my definition is, I have to say, one of the most logical and clear-headed ones I've seen so far, though.

People just like to flatter themselves. (See above, beggining "I have to say...")
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so we've gone from discussing whether Kelly OsBOURNE is hot or not - to Avril lavigne, to student bands, certain peoples sexuality, certain peoples manhood, to defining what a goth is - with some pr0nstars rabble thrown in for good measure.............

The best thread i've ever started

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hey guys, i heard blink 182 invented punk
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hey guys, i heard blink 182 invented punk
this did actually make me LOL!
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Re: Re: Kelly Osborne
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NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT
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lol u serious every1 knoes it was NOFX!!
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applying the "add 4 inches to your penis size when discussing it online" rule it means you have a tiny ****

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being a pr0nstar the rule is reversed - i took away 4 inches
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being a pr0nstar the rule is reversed - i took away 4 inches

And that was just from the girth.


And Kelly Osbourne is still short fat and all round fugly.
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And that was just from the girth.


And Kelly Osbourne is still short fat and all round fugly.
That hasnt stopped you before. Are you growing soft?
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The conformity of 'goths' seems slightly ironic, but when confronted with this simple notion they go off on one generally damning my eyes.
Conformity in this context doesn't mean conforming to doing what other people might be doing, or sharing tastes, etc. I'd imagine that (as an example) the proportion of these board's members who like Lord of the Rings is dramatically higher than the general populace, yet it can hardly be said we all conform. It's just people who like x are also quite likely to like y.

When it comes to being a goth (or being alternative, whatever) the conformity that some are against isn't so doing what your mates are doing, but doing what society expects, what your parents want, what the state wants, what mainstream culture, wants, etc. Of course, in reality no-one really cares, but that's the spirit.
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dont start the generalisation stuff, in here at any rate. make a new thread.


You are kidding yourself obiwan if you think kelly osbourne isnt fake. Read my earlier post this time, ta
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You are kidding yourself obiwan if you think kelly osbourne isnt fake. Read my earlier post this time, ta
Are any of us real Deffeh? Everyone has at one stage in there life tried to be something there not, all i'm saying is Kellys upbringing has played a major influence in her fashion, way of thinking etc. All i'm trying to say is she is certainly more 'real' then other artists.
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Are any of us real Deffeh? Everyone has at one stage in there life tried to be something there not, all i'm saying is Kellys upbringing has played a major influence in her fashion, way of thinking etc. All i'm trying to say is she is certainly more 'real' then other artists.
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