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Unread 16 Feb 2012, 16:09   #201
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Re: Ultores

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If you bothered to read my post i was addressing the HC of xvx, in which, never stated he offered an agreement out at all and told us on these forums with this speech found below: (and i quote)

'I get approached about hitting ult a couple times, i decline since we averaged over 80 hostile fleets per day from ct/fang/nd since protection ended. Round drags on, we're in the lead(roids, value, score). I get approached again to hit ult, now by more alliances, i say i wont get involved in a gangbang of that scale(at this point we've recieved 2k hostile incs from fang/ct/nd/dlr/app/ult). The next night we get that gangbang instead, goes on for a couple days and we nap Ult ingame during this'

So.. this is WHY i brought it up again as i was addressing the xvx HC who claimed he declined the block, when in reality, they offered an agreement to the block which was declined. Was i addressing you? No. So my point (even if i keep repeating myself) was valid. Just becuase you fail to grasp the point or choose to ignore it isnt my problem. Unless your an xvx HC (in which my post was directed too with an obvious question in it) feel free to shut up?
and my point is that all of this has already been mentioned so many times already, whether you are addressing the xVx HC or not, find something new to bitch and whine about, that shouldn't be too hard for you
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Unread 16 Feb 2012, 17:23   #202
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Doesn't necessarily make it the right tactic to use on an alliance tho. And clearly it wasn't the right tactic this time either, as it backfired and sent xVx straight into the obviously open arms of Ult.
I never said it was a good tactic just pointing out it isnt new neither will it be the last time we see it been used




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Should they have wanted to go for first? definitely! Does that mean they have to join a block whenever a block desires, or are they free to choose their own tactic, and their own timetable to achieve this?
Then how else are they going to achieve it? They have proven already they couldnt out roid Ultores (of course xvx were first before Ultores over took them) so unless they hit them (and with the skill of Ultores xvx would never be able to take them down 1 vs 1) so im unsure as to how else xvx were going to take first without joining a group to hit Ultores.



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Well no that isnt what i meant. If an alliance doesnt want to be a top contender for first i dont see the point in recruiting too its full capacity (or creating a second tag for that matter)
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Unread 16 Feb 2012, 17:25   #203
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and my point is that all of this has already been mentioned so many times already, whether you are addressing the xVx HC or not, find something new to bitch and whine about, that shouldn't be too hard for you
And i will keep bitching about it till somone from xvx (a HC hence why i addressed one) can tell me if its false or not. Ignoring me hoping i will shut up isnt the right tactic, might be good for trying to keep your head down in PA but doesnt work on the forums and especially with me. Although gm has already shed some light on the situation which to me amuses me even more.
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Unread 16 Feb 2012, 19:38   #204
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Re: Ultores

Word on the Grapevine is that xvx are now defending v ultores now

Any truth to the matter?
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Unread 16 Feb 2012, 20:52   #205
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so you saying FAnG should of napped xvx and ults and taken the cowards way out? Kaiba you are a troll and have no idea what your talking about!

Actually no i just meant fang shouldnt have been in the fail-a-block that CT always sets up - its going really well for you!!!


And Colt i just honestly would have presumed that by tick 300 FaNG would have realised they were in a stronger position than they expected and would have changed there plans from 'were just starting out again' to 'hey we have a chance of doing really really well here!!'

If i had been FaNG HC i would have offered xVx only a 2v1 against Ultores - CT/ND this round are just free roids - no point in napping them tbh - they have no bite - i think FaNG + xVx vs. Ultores would have been a worthy battle and one xVx would have gone for more than CT's lame/same old 'let get f*cking everyone to smash #1 even tho only about 40% of us will actually raid' bullshit
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Actually no i just meant fang shouldnt have been in the fail-a-block that CT always sets up - its going really well for you!!!


And Colt i just honestly would have presumed that by tick 300 FaNG would have realised they were in a stronger position than they expected and would have changed there plans from 'were just starting out again' to 'hey we have a chance of doing really really well here!!'

If i had been FaNG HC i would have offered xVx only a 2v1 against Ultores - CT/ND this round are just free roids - no point in napping them tbh - they have no bite - i think FaNG + xVx vs. Ultores would have been a worthy battle and one xVx would have gone for more than CT's lame/same old 'let get f*cking everyone to smash #1 even tho only about 40% of us will actually raid' bullshit
Who says we didn't change our "plans" when we were confronted with what our members were or weren't capable of...

We were 4th at said time, yet its down to us to "offer" xVx (our top hostile by FAR) an incentive for them to grasp #1??
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Unread 16 Feb 2012, 22:11   #207
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Re: Ultores

well... from how attacks have gone both alliances are pretty equal i would say... it could have made 1st place a 3 way fight
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3 way fight?

who would be the third kaiba..... (lol)
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Re: Ultores

xvx + fang would just about make it a fair fight if it had happened. Although as it stands now its a losing battle. More alarming is the state of the block vs Ultores quality wise....

As it stands according to intel i have Ultores have 34 planets in the top100 with 26 of that in the top50. FanG/ND/CT/DLR/APP can only muster 45 total in the top100 thats pretty sad. This doesnt even count value where again ultores have a major lead.

Given that every other alliance in PA knows the threat that ultores bring to the uni how on earth were they allowed to build such a lead. Even if xvx and FanG had have combined ultores still would have been a head. Why in PA do all other alliances take a reactive approach to dealing with ultores. It has been the same with app/asc/1up/eXi/denial whoever else has won more than 1 round. Every round it happens at about tick 400 someone makes a forum post saying we should roid #1 then about tick 600 everyone decides yeah we should lets do it by that time its all too late having spent half the round avoiding #1's forts for fear of retaliation. ( dont bull shit me that BCs havnt avoided ult forts early round this round)
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Given that every other alliance in PA knows the threat that ultores bring to the uni how on earth were they allowed to build such a lead.
In a lot of cases its probably simply because the idea of having to cooperate with some of the other alliances is more distasteful than Ultores winning.
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Unread 17 Feb 2012, 15:30   #211
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835 Ultores and FAnG have confirmed they are allied.
I see FAnG agrees to the value xVx's tactic beholds and decided to start play alike... Makes some of the stuff being said on here quite funny.
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I see FAnG agrees to the value xVx's tactic beholds and decided to start play alike... Makes some of the stuff being said on here quite funny.
Maybe some alliance's plans to avoid incs backfired?
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we all knew hitting ults was futile, at least fang gave it a try but now they have to look towards what their own goals are for the rest of the round.
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we all knew hitting ults was futile, at least fang gave it a try but now they have to look towards what their own goals are for the rest of the round.
I take it you mean 'hitting ult while xvx remains allied to them was futile'
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So why are 4 out of the top 5 alliances allied to another? Is there competition or something to worry about?
This is pretty lame/sad/pointless/you call it.
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Better not be CT as one of those 4 out of 5
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Personaly im dissapointed in my own alliance allying with Ultores. Especially after all the comments i made on here and we have also taken the easy way out.
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lol

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personally, i hope fang dies horribly .. really horribly.. this has been the most funniest turn i could have imagined

and ppl are calling xvx different names.. lol
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in reality its the only sensible thing for fang to do - ct have died/given up and dlr/app have got bored so they were kinda on there own (let down by their block), if they didnt stop hitting Ult and get a nap they would have been raped for last few ticks.

Sensible move for FaNG to protect its intrests
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soooo...let me just get this straight. xvx nap with ult rather than go for the win, then get a little gangbang. then the block starts hitting ult, it what was always going to be futile. fang starts moving up quite well through the ranks. fang then nap ult meaning ults almost round long buddy is now gonna get hit by the block and fang do not have to fear retals from ult.

kudos to ult, now u have no enemies that can be bother and ur round long buddies are gonna get butt raped so fang can get second. lmfao.
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what is this ?

edit: that was for rein`s post
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Same round long buddies who have been defending you against the block??
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what i am saying is xvx have helped out ult by not joining the block. now ult have napped fang meaning fang can get help to hit xvx and ult cant hit fang back. seems like a bit of a betrayal by ult.
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I guess Ult didn't like the fact xVx are going round saying they hope the round is boring for others

I would call it karma
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what i am saying is xvx have helped out ult by not joining the block. now ult have napped fang meaning fang can get help to hit xvx and ult cant hit fang back. seems like a bit of a betrayal by ult.
Just short of dropping the nap with xVx I couldn't think of a better way of saying
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I guess Ult didn't like the fact xVx are going round saying they hope the round is boring for others

I would call it karma
I have it on good authority it is mostly caused by some xVx trying to protect a galwin by defending an App(with whom xVx has been napped for a while) from his Ult incs.
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Forest causing trouble again?

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Personaly im dissapointed in my own alliance allying with Ultores. Especially after all the comments i made on here and we have also taken the easy way out.
Good, pipe down. And know the facts in future before trolling on AD!
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Good, pipe down. And know the facts in future before trolling on AD!
My facts were right your still spinless just my alliance now joined you.
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Now what xVx? What's your plan?
Didnt see this one comming.
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Pot, kettle black douchebag.
How so? Difference is im not defending FAnG for allieing with Ultores (you lot did defend your allies actions) Yes im annoyed at it but guess in a way its good for us due to now Ultores cant hit us back, but we can hit you, as many others have already pointed out on this page already.
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Pot, kettle black douchebag.
Not really, we went after Ultores even though odds were against us, something you weren't prepared to do....unfortunately there comes a point where you have to stop beating your head against a wall and take action on other matters of unfinished business...
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I am guessing that xVx are the unfinished business
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I hope that they are.

I'd be prepared to spend the next two rounds hitting no one but xVx until we get them to disband. The whole bunch of them are nothing but a waste of accounts.
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Im waiting for Chimpie to come back posting
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You wont get it tonight, he is currently throwing up in his bathroom.

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Seems xVx went that step too far and word on the grapevine xVx are getting raped off ULT

Any truth?
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Seems xVx went that step too far and word on the grapevine xVx are getting raped off ULT

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xVx broke off the nap, so i guess it was ult that went a step too far...
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Shame how that doesn't quite fit into the narrative you've so transparently been trying to sell us, Paisley.
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Shame how that doesn't quite fit into the narrative you've so transparently been trying to sell us, Paisley.
All I am saying is ... Mission accomplished
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Yes, I can see how your attempts at painting xVx in a certain light, in order for Ultores to drop their nap with them, must've been the main reason for something else happening instead. It makes perfect sense.





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Yes, I can see how your attempts at painting xVx in a certain light, in order for Ultores to drop their nap with them, must've been the main reason for something else happening instead. It makes perfect sense.





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Nobody has tryed to make xVx anymore bad than theyve been.
Its too late to drop the nap with Ultores when theyve allready won the round.
If i were in xVx i would be pissed on my HCs for putting the alliance is such politcal mess as they have this round.
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xVx broke off the nap, so i guess it was ult that went a step too far...
Wrong. xVx were breaching the terms of the agreement.
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Wrong. xVx were breaching the terms of the agreement.
lol, what a dumb alliance. First they're tits and hand Ult the win, then they can't even keep to terms so they get something out of it
Didn't xVx learn a few rounds back that it's not good to not honour deals? Oh wait no, they thought it's a good thing to do and that it never bites back
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Wrong. xVx were breaching the terms of the agreement.
Curious, since we only ever mentioned not deffing ct, what agreement were broken? Maybe Buly knows, he seems well informed?
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