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Unread 10 Sep 2011, 07:58   #1
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Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

So New Dawn have dropped the nap on 48 hours notice only so they can "not avoid the xVx targets in galaxy raids". The past three rounds have shown no one wants to take on xVx 1 vs 1 except Apprime.

So my question is - when will CT and ND face xVx without 2/3 other alliances attacking with them? See you guys on the battlefield!
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

If I remember rightly TGV took on xVx 1 vs 1 last round and were very successful at it. Either way its nice to see this NAP drop, makes politics a bit more fluid at the top
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

We'll fight xVx 1 v 1 if the rest allow it.
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

Correct me if I wrong but did't CT just join in on the bashing of Ultores? Where was the leaving it to 1vs1 in that scenario? Stop whining it should be 1vs1 and either use politics to manaufacture the 1vs1 situation or a situation that is benificial to you.

To be honest the way the game has gone unless there is a huge activity/skill difference most 1vs1 fights turn into just roid swapping or stalemate where no-one lands anything. The latter being most detrimental as everyone else to tends to catchup if you don't already have a heavy lead of roids on your score counting planets. Blocks aren't bad providing they split up once they have achieved the desired outcome i.e. fluid politics
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Correct me if I wrong but did't CT just join in on the bashing of Ultores? Where was the leaving it to 1vs1 in that scenario? Stop whining it should be 1vs1 and either use politics to manaufacture the 1vs1 situation or a situation that is benificial to you.

To be honest the way the game has gone unless there is a huge activity/skill difference most 1vs1 fights turn into just roid swapping or stalemate where no-one lands anything. The latter being most detrimental as everyone else to tends to catchup if you don't already have a heavy lead of roids on your score counting planets. Blocks aren't bad providing they split up once they have achieved the desired outcome i.e. fluid politics
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

Open question to all...
Why would alliances go for a 1v1 war?

- IF your alliance is the stronger one and victory is swift ... Great in the short term but may come to bite you in the ass politically later down the line.

- IF your alliance are evenly matched then this would likely enduce a protracted war and the other alliances outside of the war grow faster in relative terms. (How else do you explain NDs ally win last round)

- IF your alliance is the weaker one ... you lose roiding supremacy, As a HC what would you do differently/change if you're taking a pounding?

You could impliment internal improvements but what if these do not suffice?
Do you continue to take a roiding or do you seek a political solution to stop this?
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Open question to all...
Why would alliances go for a 1v1 war?

- IF your alliance is the stronger one and victory is swift ... Great in the short term but may come to bite you in the ass politically later down the line.

- IF your alliance are evenly matched then this would likely enduce a protracted war and the other alliances outside of the war grow faster in relative terms. (How else do you explain NDs ally win last round)

- IF your alliance is the weaker one ... you lose roiding supremacy, As a HC what would you do differently/change if you're taking a pounding?

You could impliment internal improvements but what if these do not suffice?
Do you continue to take a roiding or do you seek a political solution to stop this?

That would all be ok if this pending 'rumble' was CT/ND vs xVx - you could understand 2 on 1 to acheive an outcome... the problem as always seems to be that CT dont come alone or with a friend, they bring 4-5 other alliances to create flak so they can land.

Its what Apprime was accused of with ODDR for many rounds, byu members of CT aswell, yet overall CT are probably a worse offender of this... needing the likes of ROCK and now DFWTK aswell as 2 other 'top teir alliances' to start a war on someone.

This creates blocking against CT blocks and the whole universe goes to shit and the round becomes boring as hell....


How about this... ND cancel the nap break, DLR go and play with Ultores... DFWTK and ROCK go fiddle with HR and xVx and CT get left alone so xVx can take SOME MORE CT roids....

It will never happen but a lovely thought
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That would all be ok if this pending 'rumble' was CT/ND vs xVx - you could understand 2 on 1 to acheive an outcome... the problem as always seems to be that CT dont come alone or with a friend, they bring 4-5 other alliances to create flak so they can land.

Its what Apprime was accused of with ODDR for many rounds, byu members of CT aswell, yet overall CT are probably a worse offender of this... needing the likes of ROCK and now DFWTK aswell as 2 other 'top teir alliances' to start a war on someone.

This creates blocking against CT blocks and the whole universe goes to shit and the round becomes boring as hell....


How about this... ND cancel the nap break, DLR go and play with Ultores... DFWTK and ROCK go fiddle with HR and xVx and CT get left alone so xVx can take SOME MORE CT roids....

It will never happen but a lovely thought
Wait what? DFWTK is hitting xVx? You're kidding me right? From what I see every night, every alliance is hitting DFWTK when they want to. ND crashed into us this morning. ROCK loves bashing smaller alliances i.e. dS which forced them to merge with DFWTK. The only thing we've done is nap with HR. Thats all. Whats the problem in that? People spread rumours without facts. Quit the troll and get something right for once in your damn life.
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

This complete and apparently willful ignorance of the very nature of PA that continues to grip AD whenever one of these threads surfaces (which happens all too often), annoys me tremendously. I wish you were more like your mum. I miss her.
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

kaiba xvx got a few ct roids dont deny that but only due to ult and peng incoming at same time so dont act as if xvx ever had 1 vs 1 on ct and i pretty sure i saw nd incomings last night on us and night before so dont start saying crap before you can prove the points
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kaiba xvx got a few ct roids dont deny that but only due to ult and peng incoming at same time so dont act as if xvx ever had 1 vs 1 on ct and i pretty sure i saw nd incomings last night on us and night before so dont start saying crap before you can prove the points
You didn't see any xVx inc the past 2 nights tho...

anyhow, this entire thread is based on hearsay and the mother of all ****ups, assumptions. Let's at least see what happens before we start whining on AD in the future please!
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

I think xVx are looking so very tough atm that nobody can take them alone and a block is needed.
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

Well xVx are tougher than ND. It helps ofc when an alliance doesn't crash over 1 million score in one tick.

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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

xVx were also very tough last round while having Apprime support to win (where the fk is that 1 vs. 1?), but failed hard in that race due to their own crashing.
ND so tough, that Kaiba prefers us over xVx which he has openly admitted. ND so tough however, that they rejected Kaiba, while xVx are so bitches that they kept him even if saying he likes another alliance and would rather play somewhere else if he could.
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

Actually BUly that comment needs calrification...

I prefer ND as an overall package - social wise more than anything, i personally find it a more enjoyable atmosphere to play in

BUt gameplay wise xVx is far far superior to ND, its just with that superiority comes a detatchment to the members because its all business and no pleasure..


I will give 100% for xVx whilst i am in tag, they all know that. Im pretty sure theres a lot pa players who would rathe rbe playing somewhere else if they could, just the situation doesnt allow them to

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Buly every alliance needs an outspoken noob. We are happy to train him where ND couldn't :P
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

Seeing as none of the top three alliances have lost roids in the last four days I'm going to assume this thread is actually a joke.
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Wait what? DFWTK is hitting xVx? You're kidding me right? From what I see every night, every alliance is hitting DFWTK when they want to. ND crashed into us this morning. ROCK loves bashing smaller alliances i.e. dS which forced them to merge with DFWTK. The only thing we've done is nap with HR. Thats all. Whats the problem in that? People spread rumours without facts. Quit the troll and get something right for once in your damn life.
Let me state some facts here as Fizz has already mentioned - people can say whatever they like and make out im talking bull - but Kaiba before you accuse anyone of block bashing i suggest you get some fact before you do so - and on that i think you should speak to Chimpie/Night-Sky or infact any of the HC team over at xVx and ask about me - i played there and i still have loyalties there - ask them if you dont believe me - you know little about me and things will stay that way - the only reason for my reply is im not being accused of anything, ive sat in the background and watched the same old people cry round after round - ive been here since round 3 ive seen alot of shit -i for one on the whole stay away from politics basically because im all for 1vs1 and anybody that needs team up regardless if its 2vs1 or 5vs1 admit defeat by doing so - if you need help your admitting your not good enough. not sure who said it now but a 1vs1 ending in stalemate will never happen - the reason xVx are at the top is because they have an overall game plan that is better then everyone else's - people can slate and bitch all they like about how they dont need help or make up excuses about why they blocked bashed etc - its all just diffrent ways of admitting defeat

1 more thing to add - people can block bash xVx all they please but anybody asking for our help with block bashing will see us against you regardless of how little you think we are we wont back down thats something i did learn at my time with xVx -for example omega folded because they got blocked and took to many incs welcome to the world of xVx and even Apprime they take it round after round but show some balls and never quit - come back the round after and show there still one of the best because again people gangbang them
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Smowy in reponse quickly it was one of our 'HC team' who initially labelled you in with the CT block preparing to attack us thats where the beleif you were joining in came from.

If your staying out then thats good, pleased to hear it, i personally detest smaller alliances being used as flak for larger yet inadequate alliances (CT).

Tbh its gonna be intresting to see how many alliances actually come now after the massive whinge that this thread started

BUt overall wow that was an over the top response from Smowy for soemone who's alliance isnt involved..... just saying
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

Kaiba - my alliance hasnt been involved in anything other then playing this game - however like i said if the block does happen we will be fighting against them not with them,

yeh maybe it was slightly long but it was a response to accusations that are not true - the only time i ever belive anything is when i hear from whatever alliance's themselves - so if people think DFWTK is involved in anything then pm me ill tell them out right what we are doing i have no reason to lie about anything - where here to play the game as DFWTK not as a 5 alliance orgy - if we have to back somebody up them s be it at least where not taking the cowards way and you wont see any new threads on here about how many incs we take we defend well and attack well for what we have
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

This whole 1 vs 1 thing is asinine to the point of ridiculousness. It's a multiplayer war game, being able to get people on your side is as much a skill as anything else. Probably one of the most significant in fact considering that most of the rest of it relies on having a bunch of guys who are okay living for 7 weeks with borderline sleep deprivation on your team.
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this whole 1 vs 1 thing is asinine to the point of ridiculousness. It's a multiplayer war game, being able to get people on your side is as much a skill as anything else. Probably one of the most significant in fact considering that most of the rest of it relies on having a bunch of guys who are okay living for 7 weeks with borderline sleep deprivation on your team.

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Well xVx are tougher than ND. It helps ofc when an alliance doesn't crash over 1 million score in one tick.

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This whole 1 vs 1 thing is asinine to the point of ridiculousness. It's a multiplayer war game, being able to get people on your side is as much a skill as anything else. Probably one of the most significant in fact considering that most of the rest of it relies on having a bunch of guys who are okay living for 7 weeks with borderline sleep deprivation on your team.
xVx not too good at that after fking some alliances over last round.
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xVx not too good at that after fking some alliances over last round.
You mean CT who ended the nap and arranged for other alliances to hit us in the mean time? I see your point there!
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

No I meant xVx not following NAP breaking cooldown period terms twice last round. There's a whole other discussion thread regarding this on AD too I think. Reputation matters in this game!
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

yes because compared to xVx CT is a shining beacon of good in pa LOL - give over Buly every aliance is as bad as each other

People will ultimately side with whoever gives them the best chance of winning.


This is why its confusing for me why cr/bs alliances are blocking up with you... yyou dont offer them anything - CT could end this round being all alone and roidless if the 'blockwar' goes badly for your side
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people cry too much on these forums.......Stop crying, Have fun and enjoy yourselves!, its what a game is all about
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What? are you a moron? ppl crying here is more entertaining than playing the game itself. keep it going pals!
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What? are you a moron? ppl crying here is more entertaining than playing the game itself. keep it going pals!
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Its what Apprime was accused of with ODDR for many rounds, byu members of CT aswell, yet overall CT are probably a worse offender of this... needing the likes of ROCK and now DFWTK aswell as 2 other 'top teir alliances' to start a war on someone.
hmm, actually APP never needed us much at all, they just helped us out alot, and in return when things got bad with all the blocking vs them we stuck by them.

that pretty much is the only relation app and oddr always had.
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

get some balls and come back once they grown bigger than a nut.

they do it every round, now they do it again. And ppl moan about pa always being same... Sad thing is, you will lose this war.
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hmm, actually APP never needed us much at all, they just helped us out alot, and in return when things got bad with all the blocking vs them we stuck by them.

that pretty much is the only relation app and oddr always had.
Thats why i said accused of Heimdall... didnt say it was actually true.

Its just the beautiful double standards of the political juggarnaut of incompetence that is CT

250+ incs last night and overall your block gained nothing of note hahaha!!

NIce lands for Ultores and Apprime tho - keep it up lads - the crashes will start soon too \o/
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What? are you a moron? ppl crying here is more entertaining than playing the game itself. keep it going pals!
I agree, there hasn't been enough of that lately

someone start offending people
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yes because compared to xVx CT is a shining beacon of good in pa LOL - give over Buly every aliance is as bad as each other
See you were going for sarcasm here & unwittingly hit upon a little truth.
xVx are a prime example of a weasel alliance, can't be trusted to stick to what they say. Never any shortage of NAPs & side deals. Always working on backdoor deals to make things easy on themselves. No honor.

While CT has always been a trustworthy partner.

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People will ultimately side with whoever gives them the best chance of winning.
Another example of a weasel thinking everyone else is as much of a weasel as they are.
People & allies actually often side with or against another ally simply because it's the right thing to do.

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This is why its confusing for me why cr/bs alliances are blocking up with you... yyou dont offer them anything - CT could end this round being all alone and roidless if the 'blockwar' goes badly for your side
Given your track record, yes it would be confusing to you.
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

Grog and ganging up with the same alliances every round is not a weasel tactic i guess? You realize you guys lead pa into stagnation EVERY ROUND with these kind of blocking child play stuff?
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

its a little bit funny how misinformed kaiba is of the political and block forming wranglings of xvx since tick start in an effort to gang rape ct.

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I agree, there hasn't been enough of that lately

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While CT has always been a trustworthy partner;
As long as your alliance is somewhat of a contender for the win, then yes, if you are a 2nd or 3rd tier alliance CT has shown over and over again trust is something they don't deserve.
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

TL;DR.

Back to topic.

To see 2 top tier alliances fight you need a dedicated PA server with only 1 cluster (100 spots). by the nature of a multiplayer game, the life around these said alliances moves on while they beef it out. As such foreign factors will always influence the outcome. So yea... No.


On the other note, it gives me an idea: why could there not be a "dueling" speedround with 100 spots, (say 5 pplz per gal, 2 clusters) which HCs can sign up their allies for to see who can win 1vs1 ?
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On the other note, it gives me an idea: why could there not be a "dueling" speedround with 100 spots, (say 5 pplz per gal, 2 clusters) which HCs can sign up their allies for to see who can win 1vs1 ?
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

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On the other note, it gives me an idea: why could there not be a "dueling" speedround with 100 spots, (say 5 pplz per gal, 2 clusters) which HCs can sign up their allies for to see who can win 1vs1 ?
this is a very cool idea, and i dont think it would take a lot of effort for "the powers that be". maybe it'll happen.
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

Quite like this idea too I'm pro this is play for sure even if I have to make my own ally for it to happen but I'm sure plenty of ct be up for it
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

We don't need this trial speed round, xVx are still growing in score despite 300 incs a night, and will continue to do so while people crash on us.

If anything the opposing block has spured the members from ordinary activity to pretty good defence coverage. Can you all attack xVx every night!?
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Re: Will a top tier alliance ever fight xVx 1 vs 1?

maybe the more pertinent quesiton is can you all keep waking up at night
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