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Unread 10 Jun 2003, 18:09   #1
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Unread 10 Jun 2003, 18:16   #2
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What an entirely biased article. Ive never read such one sided pish
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Unread 10 Jun 2003, 18:20   #3
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Unread 10 Jun 2003, 18:34   #4
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Yes, i know about them. read their mission statements and stuff.
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Unread 10 Jun 2003, 18:40   #5
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I had no idea there was so much of this "pro-choice suicide" crap online. That said, I have to agree with their views.
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Unread 10 Jun 2003, 18:47   #6
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i found the person that drove them to suicide lol
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Unread 10 Jun 2003, 18:47   #7
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quite frankly, to each their own, but i really think that article is rather biased, which is a shame, as rather than scaremonger against the site, addressing the problem would work a lot better :/
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I only read the first few paragraphs of the article so I wouldn't know if it's biased or not.
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Unread 10 Jun 2003, 19:09   #11
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quite frankly, to each their own, but i really think that article is rather biased, which is a shame, as rather than scaremonger against the site, addressing the problem would work a lot better :/
Well, I don't think it's a problem. I believe this is a good initiative.

Firstly, they make the person know that there are others out there with the same problem. Often when troubled you feel like all this crap only happens to you, but when you see other people have the same problems it makes you often feel a bit better.

Secondly, when it finally comes to a suicide attempt you can be sure it's a clean one with less pain and mess than with an "amateur attempt".
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Unread 10 Jun 2003, 19:27   #12
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"I'm bored. I am bored with life," she wrote. "I cannot possibly think of anything I want to do that is worth doing. I just want to sleep all day."

Furthermore, she added, she was tired, sad and didn't enjoy anything.

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she majored in math
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"I have a wonderful family who will support me in all that I do," she wrote.

"I make enough money to get by. I have a few close, excellent friends. I'm not hideous nor morbidly obese. I'm no toothpick supermodel, though.

"I am just your average Joan who has everything to lose and is willing to lose it for absolutely no reason. I am tired. I want to sleep."
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Unread 10 Jun 2003, 19:40   #13
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Unread 10 Jun 2003, 20:33   #14
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Arrogance, ignorance and denial all in one, what a package!

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Unread 10 Jun 2003, 22:46   #15
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twas the maths that done it. Anyways what keeps me going in this weary world is wanting to find out just what humanity will do next. I mean take Sept 11th, imagine you'd killed yourself on Sept 10th, you'd have missed out on a great news story!!!!

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Well, I don't think it's a problem. I believe this is a good initiative.

Firstly, they make the person know that there are others out there with the same problem. Often when troubled you feel like all this crap only happens to you, but when you see other people have the same problems it makes you often feel a bit better.

Secondly, when it finally comes to a suicide attempt you can be sure it's a clean one with less pain and mess than with an "amateur attempt".

sorry, dont get me wrong, i support ASH too
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Unread 11 Jun 2003, 01:06   #17
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its ASBS nowadays.

And whats their charge? helping to buy a PH meter? ;\
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Unread 11 Jun 2003, 01:27   #18
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She was quite monumentally Fugly though.

Still , well one less easily led moron in the Gene Pool.
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Unread 11 Jun 2003, 01:46   #19
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how the **** did someone as **** as you make mod?

Maybe its being a mod for so long, Maybe i was impaired in some way; but you werent always this crap Kura. Currently you are a smug condescending overpowerly arrogant idiot, which is a shame because you are not someone i would choose to dislike.

"Easily Led" ? You dont have a ****ing clue what ASH/ASBS does, i wonder if you loaded either URL. Its aim is not to lead, nor to encourage or discourage, but to provide a choice and a safe option. I know for a fact glorification of suicide isnt tolerated. You dont even know the girl nor the place nor the circumstances

But still, ****, i guess if recent-Kura says so, it must be correct eh.
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I won't have you mocking Kura.

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Unread 11 Jun 2003, 02:40   #21
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the problem with sites like these is that people end up thinking that they are normal, and that suicide is a normal thing, as they see all their "friends" pop off one by one.
While I am all for freedom, there are limits.
this steps over one of them.
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Hey, reply to my replies to that goon who confused SR and GR will you?
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oh aye, you mean the goon with a _ after his name?
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The one I said was talking rubbish.
the one that faf criticised you for, and then backed someone else up for criticising the same guy... heh.
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the one that faf criticised you for, and then backed someone else up for criticising the same guy... heh.
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Unread 11 Jun 2003, 10:24   #28
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I'm assuming this will be Alt.Suicide.Holiday - a very old and renowned newsie from the early dawn of the net. I had the dubious honour of being involved about 5 years ago.

But then I grew up.

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I don't care what faf says.
heh... I think he says stuff just for the hell of it sometimes.

I like this Empirical Argument you are having now. he should know better!
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heh... I think he says stuff just for the hell of it sometimes.

I like this Empirical Argument you are having now. he should know better!
In arguments about anything except science, I like to make random comments then think up justifications later.

It's great fun.
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I just stick to random comments. most of the time it doens't seem worth engaging my brain since few people actually take notice of what you say anyway.
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this steps over one of them.
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I'm assuming this will be Alt.Suicide.Holiday - a very old and renowned newsie from the early dawn of the net. I had the dubious honour of being involved about 5 years ago.

But then I grew up.

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Perhaps helping people to grow up is another benefit of Ash. No doubt there are attention seekers, and overreactionists. I hope you were talking purely about your own situation (in which case thats big of you to admit to "growing up" in terms of dealing with suicide), but i hope it wasnt a snide comment at all of those involved. It would be hard to have met stbd or sr and claim they needed to "grow up"/"grow out of it" tbh
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