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Unread 25 Feb 2006, 20:10   #1
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FAO: England Rugby Fans

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Re: FAO: England Rugby Fans

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Unread 25 Feb 2006, 20:14   #3
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Re: FAO: England Rugby Fans

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Re: FAO: England Rugby Fans

Gah! For once Scotland beat England at something and I'm off work next week so don't get to gloat.
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Re: FAO: England Rugby Fans

That was brilliant

let me be the first one to say 'ya dancer' again \o/
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Re: FAO: England Rugby Fans

All the England Rugby Fans will be going "yah" crying into their pint of tetley's in some country pub

you won't find them on the internet.
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Re: FAO: England Rugby Fans

it was a bit shit yeh...

But hey Forest got a decent result (understatement) so I'm still in a good mood
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Re: FAO: England Rugby Fans

wooooo scotland
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I'm a football fan.

(english) rugby is a disgrace to our great nation*



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Re: FAO: England Rugby Fans

Yeah we're so gutted - we're still equal first dude :/

Just sharing it now, whereas before we were on top on our own.

Just have to beat Ireland (oooh tricky) and France (our most difficult competitors).


To be fair, the game was absolutely appalling on both sides. All of the score was accumulated by penalties and goals.

It was very close - but Scotland did play their little hearts out. And they also had the added bonus of a referee who can't tell the time and made some shocking decisions.
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Re: FAO: England Rugby Fans

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You're joking, right?

I've seen football fans after a game.

It's disgusting, their behaviour. They make me ashamed to be English. Yobbish chants and stupid songs, and just making a loud nuisance of themselves.

Rugby fans hold themselves a lot better. Rugby fans say "well done" to the fans of the opposition after a game. Football fans glass the opposition.

Football is a stain on our nation.

Rugby should be encouraged in more schools. It builds character.
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Football will inevitably attract the larger market because rugby is more predictable.
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Football will inevitably attract the larger market because rugby is more predictable.
no the difference is that football fans are more active.

rugby fans have a less-worse reputation because they are so fat. they're no less offensive or silly. they'd just have a coronary if they got into a fight
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Indeed I was.

It was more of an 'i'm embarrassed we lost to scotland so i'll spout random derogatory crap about the sport and pretend it doesn't matter' sort of thing.

I spent the afternoon watching the game down the SU with 3 of my scottish mates so needless to say i was 'unimpressed'.

I'd rather go to an international rugby match than a football one any day of the week.
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Indeed I was.

It was more of an 'i'm embarrassed we lost to scotland so i'll spout random derogatory crap about the sport and pretend it doesn't matter' sort of thing.

I spent the afternoon watching the game down the SU with 3 of my scottish mates so needless to say i was 'unimpressed'.

I'd rather go to an international rugby match than a football one any day of the week.
International rugby is far better than international football i can agree on that, although a lot of wankas support rugby while a complete bunch of morons support England. It's actually an "event" unlike international football which is rarely entertaining.

Nothing comes close to club football. Given a choice, I'd have PFC stay up rather than England getting out of the group stages.
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You're joking, right?

I've seen football fans after a game.

It's disgusting, their behaviour. They make me ashamed to be English. Yobbish chants and stupid songs, and just making a loud nuisance of themselves.

Rugby fans hold themselves a lot better. Rugby fans say "well done" to the fans of the opposition after a game. Football fans glass the opposition.

Football is a stain on our nation.

Rugby should be encouraged in more schools. It builds character.
You see im hoping football fans will back me up.

Football as a game does not encourage yobbish behaviour. On the whole fighting only occurs after the game in a secluded location away from the real fans. Its not even the fans who do it, its a group of people who latch onto a local team and use the name as an exscuse to fight. It was different in the 80s so I hear, now a days the whole football violence thing is blown up imo.

Secondly if people want to fight, let them who cares. Grown men can decide if they want to fight against each other.

Next you say the yobbish chants and stupid songs. Yes some chants are yobbish, but to be honest when 45,000 fans are singing the same song, I challenge you to get a better feeling. I know for a fact (as for some god forsaken reason my cousin took me to a rugby game) that rugby fans are silent as ****.

Football is a stain on our nation? There is one sport that truly units our nation and that is football. Come June you will see how football unites the nation. People will be happy when we win, sad when we lose. Football is my religion. Villa Park is my church. Im not the only one who feels that way.

Football has done more for this country than rugby ever will. Rugby is a shit game as well.
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football is a completely open banner. you go to a match, sing your heart out for two hours, bit of banter with the away fans, and then get completely smashed afterwards.

from the one season i got dragged to watch northampton saints, not one part of the above is true. you sit in dignified silence and then leave quietly afterwards.


(and watching it in a pub doesnt count. you can get tanked and cheer when watching CURLING in a pub for gods sake)
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football is a completely open banner. you go to a match, sing your heart out for two hours, bit of banter with the away fans, and then get completely smashed afterwards.

from the one season i got dragged to watch northampton saints, not one part of the above is true. you sit in dignified silence and then leave quietly afterwards.


(and watching it in a pub doesnt count. you can get tanked and cheer when watching CURLING in a pub for gods sake)
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You see im hoping football fans will back me up.

Football as a game does not encourage yobbish behaviour. On the whole fighting only occurs after the game in a secluded location away from the real fans. Its not even the fans who do it, its a group of people who latch onto a local team and use the name as an exscuse to fight. It was different in the 80s so I hear, now a days the whole football violence thing is blown up imo.

Secondly if people want to fight, let them who cares. Grown men can decide if they want to fight against each other.

Next you say the yobbish chants and stupid songs. Yes some chants are yobbish, but to be honest when 45,000 fans are singing the same song, I challenge you to get a better feeling. I know for a fact (as for some god forsaken reason my cousin took me to a rugby game) that rugby fans are silent as ****.

Football is a stain on our nation? There is one sport that truly units our nation and that is football. Come June you will see how football unites the nation. People will be happy when we win, sad when we lose. Football is my religion. Villa Park is my church. Im not the only one who feels that way.

Football has done more for this country than rugby ever will. Rugby is a shit game as well.

if somenoe broke their leg in a rugby game you wouldnt find people attacking the ambulance he was taken to hospital in
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i'm sorry pig but football provokes a much more hostile atmosphere than rugby or cricket or any other sport ever will.

players surrounding the ref for every decision, feigning injury and being generally undignified is not pleasant to watch. You don't get that in rugby.

I've seen football fans start fights with their fellow fans because they disagree over how good a player/manager is.
we've all seen/heard racist and homophobic abuse.
we've all seen how many stewards and police are needed at every game just to stop violent behaviour.
Away fans have to be herded by police to and from the ground to stop them getting attacked, and even then I've heard of fans being attacked outside the ground for the simple crime of wearing their teams shirt.
It happens in the ground and out of the ground and the fact that some people even see the need to organise violent confrontations away from the football and the police presence says more about the fans than the simple need for a police presence itself.

A lot of football fans are just not very nice.

But hey - I prefer football too. I just cringe when I see idiots on the pitch intimidating officials and idiots in and around the ground looking for trouble.

Rugby has none of these problems.
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Rugby has none of these problems.
agreed rugby has less problems and its ashame the problems football has, although rugby doesnt get the blood flowing like football either.

Btw I was in the trent bridge inn last saturday, I was taking a piss and this guy next to me kept accusing me of being a derby fan, was quite comic, he was also pissed btw forest 7-1 ;o
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Next you say the yobbish chants and stupid songs. Yes some chants are yobbish, but to be honest when 45,000 fans are singing the same song, I challenge you to get a better feeling. I know for a fact (as for some god forsaken reason my cousin took me to a rugby game) that rugby fans are silent as ****.
You must have been unlucky with the games then, or it is just them teams

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football is a completely open banner. you go to a match, sing your heart out for two hours, bit of banter with the away fans, and then get completely smashed afterwards.
You can do that in rugby except you can drink in the stadium as they aren't worried about what you will do and the chances are there is an away fan sitting next to you who you can have a laugh with. The England vs Wales games summed in up really, I saw more police in Cardiff for the football match than the rest of my life put together, my English mates were wearing Welsh scarves when we went to see the match and we stayed in at night. The 6 nations however had English fans around us and all the city was full of fans mingling for the entire weekend, and it is always like that. The same then goes on at club level, no matter what the rivalry.
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What does 'FAO' mean?
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I think FOA would have been better.

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Football as a game does not encourage yobbish behaviour. On the whole fighting only occurs after the game in a secluded location away from the real fans.
That isn't true.

Footballers roll and dive when they get knocked a tiny little bit. You don't see that kind of pathetic play in rugby. A penalty in rugby is (for the most part) deserved. In football there's always ambiguity because of the complete fagginess of players diving to try and get an advantage.

Footballers have big arguments with each other and push each other. If a rugby player has a problem with another, he'll sort it out on the pitch and it'll have a blind eye turned to by everyone. It's acceptable and everyone does it.

Footballers shouting and abusing the referee. It's terrible - also younger players start to think that's acceptable. I've seen football games at school and the players (13-14) will shout at the referee and swear at him. In the rugby games this NEVER happens.

I remember when I was in Portsmouth with my ex-girlfriend, during a Pompey/Southampton game. She simply wouldn't let us use the train, because of all the football louts. It's disgusting. If it was two rugby teams, they'd have a little banter at each other but then probably buy each other drinks in the pubs. You'd NEVER get that with football.



The people saying "it simply doesn't get the blood flowing", I'm willing to bet you don't actually know the rules of rugby. I'm willing to bet you've never seen a proper international rugby game at a stadium.

I do like international football - but I don't like the atmosphere that goes along with it. I love cheering for England and yes - I do get happy when we win. But I get ashamed of England when I see fans being yobbish and rude.
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Football grounds are meant to be intimidating places.

If Fratton Park wasn't "intimidating" I'd be very disappointed.

There are morons who take it too far, but it's easy to avoid them. 99.9% of the time you can come away from football with no problems.
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That isn't true.

Footballers roll and dive when they get knocked a tiny little bit. You don't see that kind of pathetic play in rugby. A penalty in rugby is (for the most part) deserved. In football there's always ambiguity because of the complete fagginess of players diving to try and get an advantage.
This is simply wasting time. If a team is 1-0 up in the second half, you can guarantee it will happen. Blackburn are very good at it. But if my team did it, I can't say I'd be against it.

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It's funny as **** - if they step over the line they'll get booked or sent off.

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Footballers shouting and abusing the referee. It's terrible - also younger players start to think that's acceptable. I've seen football games at school and the players (13-14) will shout at the referee and swear at him. In the rugby games this NEVER happens.
If a teacher is being sworn at, why isn't the teacher disciplining the pupils? Surely respect towards the referees should be enforced in any sport. I've thrown my stick in frustration at a hockey game at school, the teacher was on me like a shot, got booked, said I was lucky to be on, and needless to say at school I didn't dissent again.

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I remember when I was in Portsmouth with my ex-girlfriend, during a Pompey/Southampton game. She simply wouldn't let us use the train, because of all the football louts. It's disgusting. If it was two rugby teams, they'd have a little banter at each other but then probably buy each other drinks in the pubs. You'd NEVER get that with football.
Portsmouth and Scum are more than just football, it's local rivalry. We just don't get on. The rivalry goes out of control and is beyond just football. I have NEVER seen a scum shirt in Portsmouth city centre at any time, and it should stay that way, as no one would probably want to try. As for using the trains, as a fan I love the horrified faces of shoppers as a train pulls into fratton on a saturday after the game. Because in reality, there might be many of us, but everyone's well behaved and harmless. People are just scared of football fans but unnecessarily so. There are very few grounds that are bad for attacking fans, which is why i'll never go to Stoke, Wolves, or Spurs.

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I've never been to a rugby game at a stadium, but i know most of the rules (they forced us to play it at school, even though Pompey is a football town and we wanted to play football). I can watch and appreciate a game of rugby - good international games are like pitched battles and are enjoyable. But they don't stir me (much like England at football) or get me anywhere near as excited as PFC, mainly as PFC is my bread and butter, week in week out and because everyone wants us to do well so badly.

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I do like international football - but I don't like the atmosphere that goes along with it. I love cheering for England and yes - I do get happy when we win. But I get ashamed of England when I see fans being yobbish and rude.
England fans are generally wankas, but it's nice that people like to pick on them for football fans, rather than the majority of fans who are well behaved and know how to support without getting involved in a ruck. Football fans do have some respect for each other. Generally the abuse at each other is actually quite good humoured and everyone takes it on the chin etc. For example, on saturday, if the villa fans go into a chorus of going down, it means either we're losing 3-0, or we've won 3-0. And it'll be hilarious for someone either way.
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Secondly if people want to fight, let them who cares. Grown men can decide if they want to fight against each other.
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well id rather they organise it and keep it out the way rather than do it in public
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a football match is public.

And they can learn to obey the law.
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People dont fight at football matches in general there are exceptions (80s, stoke v blues last week, england v turkey) however on the whole fighting between firms is organised and out of the public eye.
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and wales lost today loooooooool
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no the difference is that football fans are more active.

rugby fans have a less-worse reputation because they are so fat. they're no less offensive or silly. they'd just have a coronary if they got into a fight
This isn't about what I said at all, but there we go!
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if somenoe broke their leg in a rugby game you wouldnt find people attacking the ambulance he was taken to hospital in
People break legs in football all the time, yet it's only the scouse who are so retarded as to do this, and only a tiny minority.

I like the way you judge a sport by a tiny number of drunk morons.
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For example, on saturday, if the villa fans go into a chorus of going down, it means either we're losing 3-0, or we've won 3-0. And it'll be hilarious for someone either way.
A nice example of this is from a few seasons back, when we were entertaining West Ham at the SoL towards the latter end of our (most recent) relegation season. We were losing, and the hammers fans started chanting "Going down, going down, going down" to which we of course responded with "So are we, so are we, so are we".
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People break legs in football all the time, yet it's only the scouse who are so retarded as to do this, and only a tiny minority.

I like the way you judge a sport by a tiny number of drunk morons.


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Rugby is played in a better tradition, and whilst Rugby players do tend to go out and act like total arses, theres always a very solid lad within the group that keeps his head and keeps the others in check.

Football lads dont have this. And theyre paid considerably more at a younger age, so consider themselves above others.
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i would like to say at this point however, i would NEVER like to be in a room with a group of drunk rugby players, more specifically student ones, as i have never heard a single good thing about their behaviour
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i would like to say at this point however, i would NEVER like to be in a room with a group of drunk rugby players, more specifically student ones, as i have never heard a single good thing about their behaviour
there a bunch of wankers who look for fights
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