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Unread 14 Feb 2006, 00:35   #1
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WoW beater?

http://lotro.turbine.com/

Interesting concept, sure its a huge , huge development, but so f'n vague for a product that they say theyre releasing within the next 10 months (and lets assume Christmas launch isnt realistic, as nobody sits online all through christmas except us).

Can it possibly develop beyond WoW though? I mean, that game has everything it could need, and its huge playerbase and funding mean it can develop constantly.
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Re: WoW beater?

This game could be the next Matrix Online!


Nothing good ever comes from movie > game conversions. Or vice versa for that matter.
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Re: WoW beater?

although, by the time it finally comes out, more people could be sick of WoW, so you never know.


so long as it isnt as bad as D&D online
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Re: WoW beater?

I'd play for the same reason I played Galaxies for nearly a year. I could go and see all the places I'd seen in the movies and interact with them on a personal/virtual level.

Actually, speaking of which.

Me and Lucy were in the London science museum on Saturday and they've got this huge aliens feature thing going there, so there were these dudes dressed up as sci-fi characters. One was Darth Vader, two were escorting Storm Troopers and for some ****ed up reason, two were guys from one of the SG teams from Stargate SG-1.

So I took my opportunity.

Towering above the Storm Troopers at my nice height of 6'3" (having added an inch to myself somehow since my last medical) I looked down and said rather loudly...

"You're a little short for a storm trooper, aren't you?"

Lucy went red and kinda cowered away, the stormy looked at me and shook his head before walking off and numerous other nerds who were surrounding me let out small giggles.

I felt big and clever*.






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Re: WoW beater?

I don't think WoW will ever get beaten (I am not speaking quality wise btw). It will die out after a long time at some point, like Diablo 2.
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Re: WoW beater?

The summer expansion to WoW , allowing character to go to level 70, and introducing new playable races etc , will keep the game going a long , long time.
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Re: WoW beater?

not if they dont do it right it wont, too many people are getting too pissed off at blizzard being totally shit, currently, they are the best of a bad bunch, nothing more
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not if they dont do it right it wont, too many people are getting too pissed off at blizzard being totally shit, currently, they are the best of a bad bunch, nothing more
Correctimundo. But theyre throwing the biggest amount of money at their problems because theyve got the biggest playerbase. Hence, their development always attracts new players and keeps pissed off existing players interested.
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thank god im not into the MMORPG thing...
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The summer expansion to WoW , allowing character to go to level 70, and introducing new playable races etc , will keep the game going a long , long time.

Just to clearify, I wasn't saying it will die out on the short term, this game will probably be on and running healthy for many years to come. The Burning Crusade will be the first of a long line expension sets. I am not complaining, I am not praising, it's just how I believe this game will end, it will become the longest running mmorpg ever I believe.
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Re: WoW beater?

yes, but no matter how much money you throw at something, if you dont solve the problems you lose your subscribers.
Blizzard europe are shit, worse, they are a festering pile of shit, they create more problems thn they solve and seem to think that they can get away with this becuase no other game out there can challenge them, however, unless they progress, something will challenge them, and they will lose
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Just to clearify, I wasn't saying it will die out on the short term, this game will probably be on and running healthy for many years to come. The Burning Crusade will be the first of a long line expension sets. I am not complaining, I am not praising, it's just how I believe this game will end, it will become the longest running mmorpg ever I believe.

tbh you are probably right, but i would rather they crash spectacularly in about a year though and go bankrupt, as i would really love to see a lot of their employees reduced to living in a gutter, thats how much i hate them sometimes, yet i still give them #8.99 a month
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tbh you are probably right, but i would rather they crash spectacularly in about a year though and go bankrupt, as i would really love to see a lot of their employees reduced to living in a gutter, thats how much i hate them sometimes, yet i still give them #8.99 a month
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tbh you are probably right, but i would rather they crash spectacularly in about a year though and go bankrupt, as i would really love to see a lot of their employees reduced to living in a gutter, thats how much i hate them sometimes, yet i still give them #8.99 a month
Id rather see them spend MORE money on development instead of creaming it off into the pockets of fat blizzard execs. Alas, that aint gonna happen, so ill settle for going into a 40 man raid once a week and not having to wait 5 seconds per screenshot due to lag, before finding out a single core hound has wiped out the party again.
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its a ****ing shit ****ing keyboard ( so old its not even a ps2 connector) running on a windows 98 (note: NOT SE either) system that i had to borrow when mine died... and currys are taking their sweet ****ING time fixing

so no, i cant be bothered fixing it, as any day could be the days when mine goes all shiny again ( i live in perpetual hope, whilst wishing ebola on currys for not fixing my computer earlier)
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Id rather see them spend MORE money on development instead of creaming it off into the pockets of fat blizzard execs. Alas, that aint gonna happen, so ill settle for going into a 40 man raid once a week and not having to wait 5 seconds per screenshot due to lag, before finding out a single core hound has wiped out the party again.
christ, how shit is your guild and connection (or computer)
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christ, how shit is your guild and connection (or computer)
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Lag : Constant for a period of about a week, and when the guild can get a lag free time, we make it as far as the first couple of bosses before we just cant get any further. We had to put a freeze on recruitment as too many arseholes were arriving (you know the type. "Im level 60 which means i know everything about the game, yet I single handedly leeroy the party on a 10 man scholo EVERY SINGLE ****ING TIME).

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guild members: about 100
level 60's: probably 50 (including alts)
server: twilights hammer (europe)

lag: **** all generally, recruitment has been stopped for a while due to raiding commitments with a couple of other guilds, although (hello kumnaa) i would rather they **** off and die as they are a bunch of piss artists ans i think that they are holding us back)


also: no one player should be able to leeroy a 10 man scholo, bearing in mind you can 5 man the ****er, christ, im SHIT and even i dont wipe us in scholo anymore (and have completed my scholo/shaman epic Q as well \o/)
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lag: **** all generally, recruitment has been stopped for a while due to raiding commitments with a couple of other guilds, although (hello kumnaa) i would rather they **** off and die as they are a bunch of piss artists ans i think that they are holding us back)


also: no one player should be able to leeroy a 10 man scholo, bearing in mind you can 5 man the ****er, christ, im SHIT and even i dont wipe us in scholo anymore (and have completed my scholo/shaman epic Q as well \o/)
Im a priest. If i take along my hand picked squad (1 Tank , 1 Lock , 1 Rogue , 1 Druid) , I can 5 man Scholo , Strat Scarlet and ALMOST Strat UD (****ing final battle. If we pull 2 Stitched Horrors , we tend to wipe) , and can solo SM (Mind Control is ****ing ACE).

The Leeroys in question are the ones who charge into a fight and draw 4 enemies at a time. Now in Scholo , that usually means Spectral Horrors and their annoying knockback spells, which throw someone else into another group of enemies.

Simple tactic. Sap / Mind Control , Tank whats left. No mobs are greater than 4 elites, and when they are, Tank , shield , heal , let the lock drop AOE all over the place, job done.
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i can 5 man scholo in a PUG dude*, and once again, at this point i will re-iterate, i am shit


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Funniest thing youll ever see.

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and Jaundice was so f'n easy. 4 Mages , you cant imagine the AOE damage that brings down in Unison.
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and Jaundice was so f'n easy. 4 Mages , you cant imagine the AOE damage that brings down in Unison.
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It's even funnier if you steal their cloudsong.


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* With the odd exception.

Admittedly I actually enjoyed Battle for Middle Earth. It was oversimplified, but very well done. The sequel is also looking rather good.
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Admittedly I actually enjoyed Battle for Middle Earth. It was oversimplified, but very well done. The sequel is also looking rather good.
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haha kumnaa told me some of his guild members were quitting over trouble and strife with another guild breaking out in to real life and making them cry

do tell me more im a faggot for gossip!


gossipfaggotry: certain people in other allied guilds need to grow up is basically the problem
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Funniest thing youll ever see.

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sheep in unison
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and Jaundice was so f'n easy. 4 Mages , you cant imagine the AOE damage that brings down in Unison.


yeah, doing something in an imba group like that can just be piss funny indeed, im relatively new to 60, and have been dragged through scholo a few times by the guild, and its fun fun fun to just completely roll over the mobs with an MC equipped group
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What is cloudsong? And why is he so annoyed it was stolen?

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What is cloudsong? And why is he so annoyed it was stolen?
It's a rare item.

From a game that isn't World of Warcraft.


Re: Scholomance, it's incredibly easy. You can 5 man it with 4 rogues and a druid, and it takes about half an hour. The only time it ever gets entertaining in any group is when pull 3 or 4 groups at once.
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It's a rare item.

From a game that isn't World of Warcraft.


Re: Scholomance, it's incredibly easy. You can 5 man it with 4 rogues and a druid, and it takes about half an hour. The only time it ever gets entertaining in any group is when pull 3 or 4 groups at once.


to be fair though mark, you are a pretty hardcore gamer compared to the likes of me and kura
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Re: Scholomance, it's incredibly easy. You can 5 man it with 4 rogues and a druid, and it takes about half an hour. The only time it ever gets entertaining in any group is when pull 3 or 4 groups at once.
4 Rogues?

And how , pray tell, do you sap undead mobs?
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4 Rogues?

And how , pray tell, do you sap undead mobs?
You don't.

You stealth past them, and then stunlock the bosses.

NB: this doesn't work against Ras or that room with the immune-to-physical mobs. You'll need a couple more druids for those. However, it does work brilliantly if you're trying to get a priest or a mage some skins of shadow, you can pick up the maximum allowed by the new-instance limit.
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to be fair though mark, you are a pretty hardcore gamer compared to the likes of me and kura
I play a mage or a rogue. Skill aint required (except in extremely isolated circumstances for rogues).
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Re: WoW beater?

Speaking of which, I just respec from fire to frost for MC/ONYXIA etc...

I'm loving the fact that 9/10 times a rogue tries to ambush me the frost procs and I finish them off
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I don't really know whether I prefer fire or frost.

Fire has substantially more dps, but frost has Ice Block, which is a warrior/rogue beater on its own.
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You don't.

You stealth past them, and then stunlock the bosses.

NB: this doesn't work against Ras or that room with the immune-to-physical mobs. You'll need a couple more druids for those. However, it does work brilliantly if you're trying to get a priest or a mage some skins of shadow, you can pick up the maximum allowed by the new-instance limit.
For a priest or a mage, im sure that fantastic.

Except Skin of Shadow is Bind On Pickup, so how does the Priest/Mage stealth past into the relevant rooms?
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