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10 Feb 2003, 15:28
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Miles Teg
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IRQ, DMA etc
i just reinstalled duke nukem3d ... all fun and games ofcourse but i want SOUND .. now how do i set that properly since i have no idea how to do it ... 
i know i have to select a soundblast 16 or AWE 32 .. but the rest just doesnt work ...
help me to find out the addresses, irq's and dma's
please ?
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10 Feb 2003, 15:36
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Rawr rawr
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start -> programs -> accessiores -> system tools -> system information
-> hardware resources -> DMA or IRQ -> profit
My audigy has IRQ 36, I don't know if you need a DMA for sound tho, as the system information node doesn't list anything that has to do with sound.
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10 Feb 2003, 16:08
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Miles Teg
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doesnt work .. need irq 9 .. cant set it at irq 9 nor can i find an adress
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10 Feb 2003, 19:03
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10 Feb 2003, 20:57
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Quote:
Originally posted by Structural Integrity
My audigy has IRQ 36, I don't know if you need a DMA for sound tho, as the system information node doesn't list anything that has to do with sound.
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Thats damn impressive... cos IRQs only go from 0...15
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10 Feb 2003, 21:45
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mit
Thats damn impressive... cos IRQs only go from 0...15
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Well, don't blame me for windows displaying 36....
Or did I get the wrong node?
*checks*
Nope, it realy says 36
Code:
System Information report written at: 10/02/2003 21:49:33
[IRQs]
IRQ Number Device
128 NVIDIA GeForce2 Ti
24 Adaptec AIC-7850 PCI SCSI Controller
28 D-Link DFE-530TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (Rev A)
32 Realtek RTL8029(AS) PCI Ethernet Adapter
36 Creative SB Audigy
37 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
14 Primary IDE Channel
15 Secondary IDE Channel
71 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
71 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
71 VIA USB Universal Host Controller
70 VIA AC'97 Enhanced Audio Controller (WDM)
1 PC/AT PS/2 Keyboard (84-Key)
3 Communications Port (COM2)
4 Communications Port (COM1)
6 Standard floppy disk controller
8 System CMOS/real time clock
13 Numeric data processor
12 Logitech PS/2 Port Mouse
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10 Feb 2003, 21:57
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Thats messed up - a 'normal' IRQ listing (and yes, i have a lot of hardware  )
System Information report written at: 10/02/2003 09:02:15 PM
[IRQs]
IRQ Number Device
9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System
11 NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400
11 Realtek RTL8139(A/B/C/8130) PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
11 Creative SB Audigy
11 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
11 NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller
11 NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller
11 Belkin USB 2.0 Hi-Speed Host Controller
11 Hauppauge Win/TV 878/9 VFW Video Driver
11 HPT370 UDMA/ATA100 RAID Controller
14 Primary IDE Channel
15 Secondary IDE Channel
12 Hauppauge Win/TV 878/9 VFW Audio Driver
8 System CMOS/real time clock
13 Numeric data processor
6 Standard floppy disk controller
4 Communications Port (COM1)
3 Communications Port (COM2)
1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
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10 Feb 2003, 22:01
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If I am not entirely mistaken I remember having seen good old Doom giving sound while running under XP. I have also a piece of software that is supposed to give dos programs sound under Windows but can't remember the name :/
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10 Feb 2003, 22:20
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I have win2k server here, perhaps it emulates other IRQ's.....
perhaps not....
Who knows.
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10 Feb 2003, 22:34
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mine is Win2k Pro, i doubt 2k server has 'extra' IRQs cos its a hardware thing
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11 Feb 2003, 00:18
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New/Extra software IS NOT going to give you that many IRQ numbers, it is a hardware constraint. Period.
Oddly for me, IRQ 9 isn't being used.
Code:
IRQ 0 System timer OK
IRQ 1 PC/AT Enhanced PS/2 Keyboard (101/102-Key) OK
IRQ 3 Lucent Win Modem OK
IRQ 4 NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management OK
IRQ 5 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller OK
IRQ 5 NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio Codec Interface OK
IRQ 6 Standard floppy disk controller OK
IRQ 7 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller OK
IRQ 7 NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) MCP Audio Processing Unit (Dolby(R) Digital) OK
IRQ 8 System CMOS/real time clock OK
IRQ 10 MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device OK
IRQ 11 NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 OK
IRQ 12 Microsoft PS/2 Mouse OK
IRQ 13 Numeric data processor OK
IRQ 14 Primary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 15 Secondary IDE Channel OK
Thea, can you give us a print out that Structural Integrity has suggested.
If it isn't important then in BIOS you might be able to reserve the IRQ therefore shoving what-ever is in IRQ9 currently into an available IRQ, then you might be able to assign the sound device to IRQ9, possibly.
BTW - Mit, if you're not using the COM ports, you could remove them in BIOS to free up IRQs.
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11 Feb 2003, 00:28
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Luckeh (and Mit), as with so many thing's the hardware has once again been 'bodged' to try and make it go a bit further before a complete redesign.
The particular bodge in question is called APIC (Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller), which allows for much more than the traditional number interrupts available with PIC.
This seems to be an effort to reduce the problems associated with IRQ sharing.
APIC is an option in most modern BIOSs (within the last year or so) but be warned: windows can get stroppy about you turning it on or off without reinstalling. With XP, changing it's state (from off to on or on to off) it can trigger the notorious IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL bsod on boot, so don't mess with it.
Here's mine:
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IRQ 0 System timer OK
IRQ 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard OK
IRQ 3 Communications Port (COM2) OK
IRQ 4 Communications Port (COM1) OK
IRQ 5 WinFast TV2000 XP WDM Audio Capture OK
IRQ 6 Standard floppy disk controller OK
IRQ 8 System CMOS/real time clock OK
IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System OK
IRQ 12 PS/2 Compatible Mouse OK
IRQ 13 Numeric data processor OK
IRQ 14 Primary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 15 Secondary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 16 NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 OK
IRQ 16 U.S. Robotics 10/100 PCI NIC TX OK
IRQ 17 Creative SB Live! series OK
IRQ 19 WinFast TV2000 XP WDM Video Capture OK
IRQ 21 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller OK
IRQ 21 VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller OK
I can't remember whether I've got APIC on or off, but as I now need to reboot anyway (yay for installing new software) I might as well check it.
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11 Feb 2003, 00:32
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I had a quick google, apparently it happens with machines that have Win2k Server OR ACPI enabled.
With ACPI enabled you can't actually tell what IRQs are being taken up (and by what), even though they are being displayed as such in the info tool.
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11 Feb 2003, 00:40
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Well I don't know.
All I know is I've never had a problem with sound in DOS games under XP. Perhaps this is because I have an SBLive and it probably has emulation for SoundBlaster 'original' mode built in (autodetecting usually informs me I have a soundblaster on Port 220, IRQ 7, DMA 5 when I try old games).
Oh and APIC is enabled on my machine btw, as is (unsurprisingly) ACPI.
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11 Feb 2003, 00:57
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How can you check btw?
BIOS says it is "off", but I swear I turned it on before installing WinXP :|
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11 Feb 2003, 01:04
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If it says its off in the BIOS then it's almost certainly off.
Also if you have IRQs assigned over the limit of PIC (isn't 16 the upper limit? I can't remember) then that's a clue too.
Tbh it makes bugger all difference anyway.
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11 Feb 2003, 01:06
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Miles Teg
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Code:
IRQ-nummer Apparaat
5 Systeem dat voldoet aan Microsoft ACPI
9 NVidia Riva TNT2 Model 64
9 AMD 756 PCI to USB Open Host Controller
9 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
9 Intel 21041 Based PCI Ethernet Adapter
9 Creative Sound Blaster PCI128 (WDM)
8 Systeem-CMOS/Real-timeklok
13 Numerieke-gegevensprocessor
12 Microsoft PS/2-muis
1 Standaard- (101/102 toetsen) of Microsoft Natural PS/2-toetsenbord
6 Standaard diskettestationcontroller
4 Communicatiepoort (COM1)
3 Communicatiepoort (COM2)
14 Primair IDE-kanaal
15 Secundair IDE-kanaal
if this helps any.
need for the record : DMA, adres, IRQ ... or a program that finds that ..
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11 Feb 2003, 01:14
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ROFLMAO!!! so many on IRQ9
ok, Are you using the COM ports?
If not, disable them in BIOS to free up IRQs, then boot up into windows and check the IRQs again and see what shifted.
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11 Feb 2003, 01:26
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Miles Teg
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Quote:
Originally posted by Luckeh!!!!
ROFLMAO!!! so many on IRQ9
ok, Are you using the COM ports?
If not, disable them in BIOS to free up IRQs, then boot up into windows and check the IRQs again and see what shifted.
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reboot?
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11 Feb 2003, 01:44
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well... after disabling the COM ports in bios, save the changes and boot into windows again... 
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