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2 Nov 2003, 20:22
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New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
Ok. So we all know everyone enjoys Havoc Period because it's chaotic and silly.
I figured it could be made a little more interesting if the following occured :
Every planet has all of its Fleet removed.
Each planet is reset to 4k roids.
Each planet recieves a MASSIVE resource injection.
Asteroid Initiation is disabled.
I would say it would make things quite interesting, and force you all to fight long and hard over your roids.
This would of course mean havoc would be a longer period to allow fleet build times and so forth.
Thoughts?
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2 Nov 2003, 20:24
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
sure why not
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2 Nov 2003, 20:25
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
Great Idea, but I'd like to implement an option that u can build _ALL_ ships on PaX that would be kewl :P
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2 Nov 2003, 20:25
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
I agree. For once havoc can be a lil interesting.
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2 Nov 2003, 20:27
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
i really like that idea, would bring back all players to an equal level.
when you reset everyones fleet i would suggest to make a protection time for a few ticks, since Ziks can build ships in 4 ticks while other races can´t, so defence will be a bitch
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2 Nov 2003, 20:28
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
SOunds good.
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2 Nov 2003, 20:37
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
Or, stop ticks when round ends, give everyone resources X ticks later, give everyone 1-tick production time, then restart ticks at some given time, so everyone will have the ships when it starts....waiting Z ticks for ships to build would be boring
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2 Nov 2003, 20:42
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
yea but it has to be implimentable, that would be alot of work for pa team, I think?!? :S Im just saying it cannot be too out landish otherwise they have to recode bits and play with databases ect.
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2 Nov 2003, 20:50
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
what Mr.Brick said with 1 tick production time.
lol, fun fun fun
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2 Nov 2003, 20:50
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
Fun!
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2 Nov 2003, 20:53
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
sounds good to me. as long as havoc is capped at no more than a week. past then and i want to die.
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2 Nov 2003, 20:58
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
Remove Covert Ops then.
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2 Nov 2003, 21:23
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
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what Mr.Brick said with 1 tick production time.
lol, fun fun fun
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2 Nov 2003, 22:57
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
Absolutely silly and plain stupid.Sounds great for havoc
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2 Nov 2003, 23:29
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
Also finish everyone's research and construction so that they can get the best out of havoc!!!
and make production times 1 hour.
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3 Nov 2003, 18:46
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
Nice to see someone thinking outside the box.
The biggest problem with Havoc is that it usually goes on far too long... usually because the next round isn't ready to go yet.
Ideally, Havoc and next round signups should start at the same time. People can play Havoc while waiting for next rounds' ticks to start.
It'll probably never happen...
But it should.
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4 Nov 2003, 00:34
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
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Great Idea, but I'd like to implement an option that u can build _ALL_ ships on PaX that would be kewl :P
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4 Nov 2003, 14:53
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
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Great Idea, but I'd like to implement an option that u can build _ALL_ ships on PaX that would be kewl :P
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weeeeeeeee that would be fun...
imagine combining Xan FI, Zik FR and Terran CR/BS..........mmmmmmm
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4 Nov 2003, 16:58
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
I'm against it. It would make havoc semi-official, and I see no reason for that. I guess the idea is solely based on the need to please bashed players and keep them returning to the game?
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5 Nov 2003, 16:54
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
all i wanna say:
remove the recall button
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5 Nov 2003, 20:02
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
is this the "END OF THE ROUND TOMORROW" announcement?
but yes, sounds great.
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5 Nov 2003, 20:38
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
hehe, I like the ability to build all ships suggestion, but Darky had the best point, is that if you remove all ships and dont equalize production times then Zik will have a free go at anyones asteroids, you could just get 15 zik to attack a gal and there is nothing that gal can do
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
good idea mr brick - how about paying up all free accounts too ;-D
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6 Nov 2003, 14:29
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
mite be interesting
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7 Nov 2003, 01:09
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
i kinda like the 1 tick production time idea , havoc should be fun so maybe the idea of all ships available to all players , if it could be done without too much hassle would also be nice
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
Sounds good to me. The idea i read to give all there completed research and construction seems like a plan aswell.
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
1 tick production time and it should be fun, aslong as it dont last too long
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
why not, nice idea. I'll mis my shippies
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
I love the idea. Please implement this and everyone worrying about Sikonians coming to kill them remember that they still have to travel to your planet so you would have ships by then too =D
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
IIIIIIII.... LIKE IT, much better... go for it YES
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
YES!
Don't like the 1 tick production time though.
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13 Nov 2003, 11:37
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
There's no point having more than 6k roids, so after a couple of successful attacks there'd be nothing to do. Any extended period of havoc is totally pointless - I'm convinced the extended havocs in the past have been due to the next round not being ready, rather than because of any demand for them from the player-base.
The concept of having havoc while next round signups are open is a good one. It would remove the suspicion that havoc is just a poor attempt to keep players' interest whilst the next round is finally being designed, written and half-heartedly tested.
If you're going to reset ships/roids, then you may just as well run a free mini round where everyone starts with whatever it is you want to give them. At least that way, the small percentage of players interested in a longer-lasting havoc will ALL be in fairly active galaxies. Plus it'd give any genuine new players in the free area a chance to meet some of the paying ones (or the paying ones a chance to meet the free ones - as it seems at the moment not paying gives a more fun round than paying: loads of easy targets, no time-limit and you don't have to pay? well worth the 5k less of each resource).
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
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There's no point having more than 6k roids, so after a couple of successful attacks there'd be nothing to do. Any extended period of havoc is totally pointless - I'm convinced the extended havocs in the past have been due to the next round not being ready, rather than because of any demand for them from the player-base.
The concept of having havoc while next round signups are open is a good one. It would remove the suspicion that havoc is just a poor attempt to keep players' interest whilst the next round is finally being designed, written and half-heartedly tested.
If you're going to reset ships/roids, then you may just as well run a free mini round where everyone starts with whatever it is you want to give them. At least that way, the small percentage of players interested in a longer-lasting havoc will ALL be in fairly active galaxies. Plus it'd give any genuine new players in the free area a chance to meet some of the paying ones (or the paying ones a chance to meet the free ones - as it seems at the moment not paying gives a more fun round than paying: loads of easy targets, no time-limit and you don't have to pay? well worth the 5k less of each resource).
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13 Nov 2003, 13:09
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
Am I seeing things??
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
sounds good to me how about 100 billion of each resource like in ********
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
hehe, i like the idea above of removing the recall button. Evul
btw, what about non-xans, who require different weights to their resources...?
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Re: New Concept : Havoc Suggestion
Nomally I would be all up for getting rid of Havoc, and making it a shorter time between rounds, bu they it gives ppl a time off, so I'm all for making Havoc a long and stupid as pos e.g. if you don't do anything with your fleet they "go away" and join another, no recall,ships stay attacking until they can be bothere to leave e.t.c...
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Is it possible to time it so that round ends are during term for those of us that ar estill in education.
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