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Unread 4 Oct 2003, 11:26   #1
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All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

You guys had a thread like this coming.

So what is going on? What kind of trick are you guys playing the rest of the Universe?!

Not that anyone believes you guys are disbanding.
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Unread 4 Oct 2003, 11:33   #2
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

the same as all the other alliances in the top 10 are doing.... hiding members... smart move by fang/dragons if u ask me
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

Naaah, they just had ALOT of incomings!
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

Maybe that is not their fault, but the fault of fhaggish alliances in a certain block?

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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

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Maybe that is not their fault, but the fault of fhaggish alliances in a certain block?

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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

I wish they would prevent us from using this 'trick' of hiding true alliance size. I can't imagine it would be difficult and would propably require merely a few rows of code but I guess there are more important things to focus on.
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

i would like recruits to not get the eta advantage as that would at least cut back on score hiding.
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

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i would like recruits to not get the eta advantage as that would at least cut back on score hiding.
Then how are the alliances surposed to tell if that recruit is going to defend effectively or not to be moved up? A little hard to defend a lot when your lagging behind in ETA by not being able to have the bonus under recruit status people already have universe ETA's of 8 the only way to defend against that since it doesn't show up untill 7 is being under the alliance tag with the bonus. How do you expect recruits in alliance's to proove themselves if they can't make it to over half of the defense calls?
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

1. the recruits needs to be shown as score
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2. the recruits shouldent have the eta stuff

its ghey the way it is atm, the top10 would be much diffrent if not
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

Supprised its taken so long for certain alliances to jump on this particular band wagon... smart groups have been at it since day 1.
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

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Supprised its taken so long for certain alliances to jump on this particular band wagon... smart groups have been at it since day 1.
Well, Fang have been trying to play the moral-high-ground card, claiming "we're more honest because we don't use it". When they realised that it didn't work, and that most alliances were hiding at least some of their members (or people just didn't care), they're on the bandwagon now.
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Well, Fang have been trying to play the moral-high-ground card, claiming "we're more honest because we don't use it". When they realised that it didn't work, and that most alliances were hiding at least some of their members (or people just didn't care), they're on the bandwagon now.
Afaik Fang still holds moral highground compared to punch of other alliances out there.

+ for their credit, it's not easy to keep rank1 position when nearly half of the decent part of the universe blocks agains u. Sounds a lot like what happened with LDK r9,5.
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

also maybe this shows spinner that his recruit option is a stupidity
mere reason for us to use it now

and if you wanna test recruits then give em the eta bonus and dont count em to the score if you want (tho i dont understand why a recruit shouldnt be in the score but well...) but make this recruit state temporary. After three days testing or maybe a week every recruit must either be moved to member or thrown out...
that its possible to set a member to recruit again is ridiculous anyway
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

Add recruit's score to total of alliance.



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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

This is really "smart"
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

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Well, Fang have been trying to play the moral-high-ground card, claiming "we're more honest because we don't use it". When they realised that it didn't work, and that most alliances were hiding at least some of their members (or people just didn't care), they're on the bandwagon now.


ok, back from audacious interpretations and derisory presumptions to the facts:
  • The rankings doesnt include the scores of recruits and you can hide the score of your alliance this way
  • Assuming, it would be a bug, FAnG did not use this "feature" but reported it on the boards and called on other alliances to stop employing it
  • Elysium makes use of it since day 1
  • Although public and well known, nothing got done to abolish/chnage the recruit ranks so far while FAnG`s #1 spot delieverd a perfect excuse for other alliances to block against us

Everyone can make up his own mind about who acted more morally and honorful in this special case
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

Add recruits score to total alliance score and the problem is solved, as many ppl have already stated
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

Mits tool on the portal shows the real ranks. I think, but it only tells you them for your own alliance.
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

funny noone mentioned the co-ors ofdragons bein leaked as well
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

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the same as all the other alliances in the top 10 are doing.... hiding members... smart move by fang/dragons if u ask me
took em a while to catch up tho =)
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funny noone mentioned the co-ors ofdragons bein leaked as well
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which explains their setting of members to "ely"
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Everyone can make up his own mind about who acted more morally and honorful in this special case
There's nothing dishonourable about publically playing down your strength to reduce focussed attacks on your members.
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There's nothing dishonourable about publically playing down your strength to reduce focussed attacks on your members.
That's not what leff was talking about imo.

NWay I don't see the big fuss here. Ely and co have done it since day one. We always said it was silly and even asked for it to be removed. But nothing changed ...

I still find it silly but I don't see if others can have the advantage of hiding, then why shouldn't we use it aswell? We atleast "showed" our true strength but being on the #1 spot and always in the picture of other alliances isn't always easy either.

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Who cares?
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

a lot of FAnG dont like this BUT seen as most of the 'top' alliances r doing it i cant see why people are complaining, especially people from alliances who are also doing this.

i feel the same as a lot of people, Spinner shud simply fix the 'bug'.

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You guys had a thread like this coming.

So what is going on? What kind of trick are you guys playing the rest of the Universe?!

Not that anyone believes you guys are disbanding.
That you are a total clueless noob we found out after your first post on the boards, please dont embarrass your inbred self anymore here.
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

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Bah, now even Vision demoted it's members. This is getting pathetic
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

This round has great comedy value.
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Unread 6 Oct 2003, 09:43   #39
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FAnG are evil... very few of em will come to heaven. But I'm a very nice guy.. and if u wish I'll put in a good word for yah with the big guy =)
Hmm, help me out here... this "big guy" its Sid right?
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sure as if it has summit to do with catching up.
Youre definatley right ... its more about "finding out"
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Unread 6 Oct 2003, 09:57   #41
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[ 23:16:27 ] ::: Mode (@P:#Heaven +o mens)
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

hehe, forgot bout that, but i am evil, so maybe the 'big guy' will not allow me
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Bah, now even Vision demoted it's members. This is getting pathetic
Says the guy titled TFD HC, heh. Also Vision ain't so bad, or maybe my gal was just lucky.
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Unread 6 Oct 2003, 22:24   #44
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Re: All The Furious Angels Went To Heaven

A little bug in the Alliance Ranking code has allowed members set to "Recruits" avoid counting towards the alliance score and rank. This has now been fixed.
The fix will be uploaded october 8th at approximately 22:00 GMT (but not showing until the tick after) From spinners mouth
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Says the guy titled TFD HC, heh. Also Vision ain't so bad, or maybe my gal was just lucky.
I never said Vision was bad, I just said the tactic is pathetic.....Glad it's finally corrected...
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