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Unread 12 Apr 2019, 18:46   #51
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Re: Round 81 Drama thread

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Inspiring post considering you have the second largest community of players in the game behind Ult and you napped up for over half the round
I agree fully. We are #5 tho and u are eor napped...
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Well this round its 19, 1/3 of a full tag.

As such because everyone will try get an advantage it ends up 2 on 1 or 3 on 1, ult arent going to sit there doing nothing and will get there own block together, so thus it escalates ends up being 4 or 5 on 1 side and a race to see who has more numbers.

I get the point that ult is the best ally in the game. It isnt up for debate, just wanted to point this 1 v 1 stuff is never true, as ult always has support (and rightly so because if you had none pols would screw you over every round).
Like I said, if someone actually wanted a 1 vs 1. We have no problem asking Astatores to idle for a few days
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Re: Round 81 Drama thread

Lets be honest, without all these retarded quest roids ult would be ALOT less fat!
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Lets be honest, without all these retarded quest roids ult would be ALOT less fat!
Your post is retarded, it all scales.
Remove the quest roids and they get removed from everyone. The quest roids are not the issue.

The issue is politics. And ultores just played them better than the rest, simple as that, coupled with the better average planet than most, henceforth ultores big lead.

Will any alliances have the guts to break deals and go for them?

If you ask around alliance Hc... How many think they can win? The likes of carnage, stellar, and p3ng should be more ambitious and less intimidated by ultores.
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Your post is retarded, it all scales.
Remove the quest roids and they get removed from everyone. The quest roids are not the issue.

The issue is politics. And ultores just played them better than the rest, simple as that, coupled with the better average planet than most, henceforth ultores big lead.

Will any alliances have the guts to break deals and go for them?

If you ask around alliance Hc... How many think they can win? The likes of carnage, stellar, and p3ng should be more ambitious and less intimidated by ultores.
You big puff, know who you talk to before speaking!

It all scales in favor of ult, obviously we have quest roids of 2 tags...
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Your post is retarded, it all scales.
Remove the quest roids and they get removed from everyone. The quest roids are not the issue.

The issue is politics. And ultores just played them better than the rest, simple as that, coupled with the better average planet than most, henceforth ultores big lead.

Will any alliances have the guts to break deals and go for them?

If you ask around alliance Hc... How many think they can win? The likes of carnage, stellar, and p3ng should be more ambitious and less intimidated by ultores.
Going up against ult has nothing to do with ambition or being intimidated. It comes down to facts.

Ult had and do still have a huge amount of supporting allies this round. It was never going to be 1 v 1 or even 2 v 1. Ult had more numbers on there side (they obviously didnt need that help against nd solo but it was there if any form of opposition/block formed).

Well done to ult for playing politics beautifully but to say it's at fault of other allies having no ambition is laughable.
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Re: Round 81 Drama thread

If its not lack of ambition or being intimidated. what is it then that makes people NAP Ult?
Astatores/xVx/Norse we know are always allied to Ult, and usually works as support tags of Ult, but the rest? CaRn/P3ng/HR+TS/etc?
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If its not lack of ambition or being intimidated. what is it then that makes people NAP Ult?
Astatores/xVx/Norse we know are always allied to Ult, and usually works as support tags of Ult, but the rest? CaRn/P3ng/HR+TS/etc?
That part is quite simple actually.
You make deals with alliances you can trust, why would you do it with an alliance you can't trust. Like ND for example. Everyone knows you can't trust ND further than you can kick them.

This round was not the first round that buly went around asking alliances to trade lands either.
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If its not lack of ambition or being intimidated. what is it then that makes people NAP Ult?
Astatores/xVx/Norse we know are always allied to Ult, and usually works as support tags of Ult, but the rest? CaRn/P3ng/HR+TS/etc?
Its decent amount of respect, but as u self explained above and left out a couple tags too (TS and VGN). The scenario to go on Ult is to fight a bunch of minions too. Some had other score to settle too, by the looks of it.

All the competing tags fought like hell last round and atleast we tried to avoid another round length block war and just chill it. Regardless how amazing the last round was.

Sadly theres so few tags willing to put up a fight.
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Re: Round 81 Drama thread

Everyone is terrified of going 1on1 with ults, with fair reason, ND though this round got strat choice completely wrong for fighting ult and gave up when everyone started naptarion.

The politics have wrecked this round, I told them it what would happen before the first nap went in but oh no, we can starve ult of roids by napping them!!! BS!
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Re: Round 81 Drama thread

How is fighting a tag like ND, CT or CaRn any different from fighting Ult? As Ave said people might justve wanted a relaxed round after last round where nobody was fighting Ult.
And going 1 on 1 is stupid vs any alliance, especialy any alliance that outnumbers you wether it be Ult or CaRn or what ever.

Everyone agreeing to NAP Ult together is everyone saying that this round shouldnt have been played in the first place. Maybe the breaks are too short, or the rounds are too short, or the stats are just terrible.
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Stats are just fine.
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Re: Round 81 Drama thread

And I reinforce my previous statement.

Alliances like penguin and carnage and stellar who have the ability to challenge for the win simply lack ambition and are intimidated by ult.

Cudos to dlr and nd for having that fight at least, though they havnt been able to land ult

Norse are generally a smaller tag and generally ult friendly yes. Our rank, size and player base this round has surprised us... Trust me.. We expected to be 6th with 40 members...

Heh...
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You big puff, know who you talk to before speaking!
No offense mate, but I've never heard of you, or seen your nick before, and have no idea who you play for.

That being said, I've been largely inactive past 7 years due to being in Merchant navy ��

Edit: my galaxy have educated me on your identity. "in bielsa we trust" #marchingontogether��
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No offense mate, but I've never heard of you, or seen your nick before, and have no idea who you play for.

That being said, I've been largely inactive past 7 years due to being in Merchant navy ��

Edit: my galaxy have educated me on your identity. "in bielsa we trust" #marchingontogether��
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Re: Round 81 Drama thread

Wouter is Cardinal, in case anyone else didn't know.
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Wouter is Cardinal, in case anyone else didn't know.
Always thought Wouter was Xerxes

CarDinal makes more sense though ! Although his English has dramatically improved. I hope you are sure Mz.
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confirmed, one of cardi's cousin identities!
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Wouter is agar3s, not cardi
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I thought wouter is apprime shared forum account.
makes sense if you put into account all of the players in apprime is cardi and his fleet of sim cards
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I'm pretty confident he's Cardi.

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yes me is cardi

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And I reinforce my previous statement.

Alliances like penguin and carnage and stellar who have the ability to challenge for the win simply lack ambition and are intimidated by ult.

Cudos to dlr and nd for having that fight at least, though they havnt been able to land ult

Norse are generally a smaller tag and generally ult friendly yes. Our rank, size and player base this round has surprised us... Trust me.. We expected to be 6th with 40 members...

Heh...
U realise which tag fights the most by default? and the generally Ult friendly is the source of all the problems in the political field. So time to look in the mirror and step up The minions have 0 chance what so ever to win if none makes the effort FOR U. How about u try it yourself for once. Thats a dead end and zero cunning political approach.
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Carnage is not the same without Demort at the wheel, please bring the mighty Demort back Ave, we need him!
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U realise which tag fights the most by default? and the generally Ult friendly is the source of all the problems in the political field. So time to look in the mirror and step up The minions have 0 chance what so ever to win if none makes the effort FOR U. How about u try it yourself for once. Thats a dead end and zero cunning political approach.
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Re: Round 81 Drama thread

Advantix, [16.04.19 18:46]
but its a small community, and everyone knows eachother.. enemies will be enemies over several rounds

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Norse/Ult have had a good relation for 10-15 rounds, dont see why it should change now

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Its easy to understand the critism towards the Ultores support tag, and accept that the tags that do want to fight for a top spot do have some valid point.
Asc/Fighting Irish/HODOR/HEROES/Norse/Ast is basicly ult, yet people like TheoDD(Norse/Ult support tag member) throws a hissy fit when a tag he is not part of pledge loyality some other tag.

Unless most HCs will scrap past rounds and act in their self interest for the ongoing rounds the possibility of rounds turning shit is pretty high.
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but its a small community, and everyone knows eachother.. enemies will be enemies over several rounds

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Norse/Ult have had a good relation for 10-15 rounds, dont see why it should change now

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Its easy to understand the critism towards the Ultores support tag, and accept that the tags that do want to fight for a top spot do have some valid point.
Asc/Fighting Irish/HODOR/HEROES/Norse/Ast is basicly ult, yet people like TheoDD(Norse/Ult support tag member) throws a hissy fit when a tag he is not part of pledge loyality some other tag.

Unless most HCs will scrap past rounds and act in their self interest for the ongoing rounds the possibility of rounds turning shit is pretty high.
Butcher why make this personal and bring a random nick into it.

When you had rainbows big tag your excuse for fencing and not participating in any fight was simple - you were a training tag - for about 20 rounds with the same core + players so please jump right off that horse 🐎

This round is great for the big tag ult
Supports that did excellent politics

Hurts + Norsemen

Unfortunately xVx didn’t do as good pols - same as VGN so those two got battered.

The guys who were planning to fight the reigning champions decided to hit each other and at that stage the round was over.

If I was a HC of the Ult side now id continue on their side and sit pretty until the anti Ult side decide to hit ult and then just farm them.

If I was HC of the guys fighting to win aka peng carnage and ND(ND obviously slaughtered) I’d be trying to XP farm hurts Norse xVx or VGN (wherever is best) as hitting Ult at this stage I feel is pointless . They are too far ahead and too ready to defend against you guys and your value is too too far behind. Plus you’ll be farmed by all the Ult support tags l. Meh...

Let’s see how things planned out

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Butcher why make this personal and bring a random nick into it.

When you had rainbows big tag your excuse for fencing and not participating in any fight was simple - you were a training tag - for about 20 rounds with the same core + players so please jump right off that horse ��
BowS played from r60ish-r70ish, and majority of these round im pretty sure we were not NAPed with Ult.


Lets try stick to whats right, or just let this thread go based on personal emotions.
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On the topics of support tags and 1v1ing, when was the last time ult/norse launched on each other?

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On the topics of support tags and 1v1ing, when was the last time ult/norse launched on each other?

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We've been good friends the last 10-15 rounds or so
When was the last time ND and DLR attacked eachother?
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We've been good friends the last 10-15 rounds or so
When was the last time ND and DLR attacked eachother?
This round. Before that, last round. etc

Dunno why I even had a slight hope this was anything but an ult propaganda thread.
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This round. Before that, last round. etc

Dunno why I even had a slight hope this was anything but an ult propaganda thread.
Well you are either a troll or your IQ is comparable to that of an actual zebra.
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It's not really a 'request' when he's running 59 of them now is it?
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This round. Before that, last round. etc

Dunno why I even had a slight hope this was anything but an ult propaganda thread.
Someone accidentally launched on the wrong planet before you had managed to accept the nap ingame?
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I think Newdawn this round are the worst form of newdawn ever.

What alliance sits there and takes night after night of incoming and never hits back?. Not even once did nd hit ultores back.

It's shocking. Its absurd. Its the lack of ambition, the lack of guile, the defeatist attitude.

Shocking display.
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I think Newdawn this round are the worst form of newdawn ever.

What alliance sits there and takes night after night of incoming and never hits back?. Not even once did nd hit ultores back.

It's shocking. Its absurd. Its the lack of ambition, the lack of guile, the defeatist attitude.

Shocking display.
To be fair, that's not true. It's just that they stoped trying when they didn't land and decided to hit others instead
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I think Newdawn this round are the worst form of newdawn ever.

What alliance sits there and takes night after night of incoming and never hits back?. Not even once did nd hit ultores back.

It's shocking. Its absurd. Its the lack of ambition, the lack of guile, the defeatist attitude.

Shocking display.
The lack of ambition, guile, and defeatist attitude of someone sitting in an alliance "generally friendly with" and currently sitting in an EOR NAP with by far and away the strongest opposition is probably a touch more conspicuous than that of an alliance who routinely take that strong opposition head on, but have this round been left to die by everyone else.

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Will any alliances have the guts to break deals and go for them?
lol. HEY WHAT ALLIANCE ARE YOU IN AGAIN MATE?????

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If you ask around alliance Hc... How many think they can win? The likes of carnage, stellar, and p3ng should be more ambitious and less intimidated by ultores.
Yes, an alliance currently sitting #7 that fills its ranks by mailing allianceless planets should probably be the one to pick up the mantle of fighting ultores after the rest of the more active and experienced universe decided to nap them. This has been a real wake up call, thank you for being willing to speak up.
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idiots idiots idiots


Gm laughable comment even questioning if Ult would be ahead if they still had random gal raids on them.


The facts are this:

1) Activity among memberbase

Ult has the most active main tag in the game. Of the 60 active planets in the Ult main tag I would say 30 of them are the most active planets in the Universe. Let me elaborate. Take CT. they probably have 2 planets of their 60 that would fit into the top 40 planets in Ult (ranked by activity alone)

2) Actual DCs /BCs (HCs)

Ult have the most active no lifing command in the universe (BY FAR)

of the 3 main HC 2 of them are perm disabled and literally live to play this game so they're online around the clock, sometimes for 20 hours aday and they literally eat their diets in tune with PAin time clocks. The other one has a nightshift security job at a large supermarket and can DC all night.

3) Member discipline

There is very little emo in Ult. I expect some with the new lot of PA emos that got brought in but other then that you won't see much Emotion from the Ult playerbase. They know how to follow instructions and they do as theyre told. A lot of low IQ players try and use their own mind all too often, especially when getting bashed ingame and losing roids....

4) Spys - Intelligence

They have been around for a long time and for many many years they've been able to gain intel - Attack page intel and Fleet view intel from almost all alliances...

5) Honest Politics

They have always afaik stuck to their deals and done straight pols. With the lowlife lowIQ HC in most other alliances it's no ****ing wonder people want to NAP / Ally & work with Ult !!!



That pretty much sums up why Ultores are the best tag in the game. It is all pretty normal stuff and people really should be aware of all the above.

If you want to compete with Ult, outgun them and hit them harder then you hit anyone else. It is that simple.. (but referring to my points - with such low IQ HCs it's very hard to organise and make happen haha
ND has an entire alliance of perma disabled ppl, shouldnt they be wrecking?
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ND has an entire alliance of perma disabled ppl, shouldnt they be wrecking?
Havnt they been wrecking?
Theyve won like 4 rounds the last 1-2 years, more than Ult afaik.
And lets not forget Ult has been organizing cheating from their HQ and had 2 support tags in Norse and Astatores
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Havnt they been wrecking?
Theyve won like 4 rounds the last 1-2 years, more than Ult afaik.
And lets not forget Ult has been organizing cheating from their HQ and had 2 support tags in Norse and Astatores
yeah well we had to replace bows as our support tag when they decided to be back stabbers many moons ago and lets be honest... norse is actually a lot more useful then bows ever could be
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yeah well we had to replace bows as our support tag when they decided to be back stabbers many moons ago and lets be honest... norse is actually a lot more useful then bows ever could be
Exactly.
Everything was better many moons ago, even the alliances. Now PA is left with the likes of VGN/Norse/CaRN/HR+TS/xVx/insert-ult-lapdog
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U guys r so funny discussing politics when the complete stagnation is purely based on value rounds.
Stats has been the key to decide between Xp or Value rounds. Thats not enough. We need balanced rounds, like last one, with value and xp winners, no stagnation, exciting final rounds etc.
This have nothing to do with ultores picking right strat, and doing what they do best, value.
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