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10 Nov 2003, 23:34
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King of The Fat Boys
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What Bittorrent client should I download?
Simple questions require simple answers
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10 Nov 2003, 23:35
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
I use Shadow's Experimental.
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10 Nov 2003, 23:35
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
thats a question i have been asking myslef as well
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10 Nov 2003, 23:35
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King of The Fat Boys
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
linkage too pls!
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10 Nov 2003, 23:36
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dennaB
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
I think I use BT++
It does the job, so I'm happy.
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10 Nov 2003, 23:37
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King of The Fat Boys
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
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Originally Posted by I'm Not Grimble
I think I use BT++
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I'm using that one too at the moment. And apparently it's crap, which is why I'm looking for another one.
Even the official one is better apparently.
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10 Nov 2003, 23:38
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Dirte
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
Shadows experimental rocks. Just google for it.
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10 Nov 2003, 23:39
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dennaB
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
It works better than the others I've had, so I don't care what it apparently seems to be.
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10 Nov 2003, 23:40
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cynic
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
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10 Nov 2003, 23:47
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri
I use Shadow's Experimental.
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11 Nov 2003, 10:05
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King of The Fat Boys
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
Okay, I've installed this Shadow's Experimental and it seems a bit crappy. There's a separate window for each download which is not good, plus it doesn't seem that easy to customize. At this rate I'll be reinstalling BT++!
I'll give it a chance anyway. Any other good ones out there?
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11 Nov 2003, 10:23
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Friendly geek of GD :-/
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
"Burst!"
Multiple-Downloads in retro-style windows, customizable bandwidth. I tried some BT clients, doesn't seem perfect, but ok...
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11 Nov 2003, 10:58
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cynic
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
the 2 that i repeatedly saw ppl reccomending when looking for a download link for shadows experimental were shadows experimental and burst.
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11 Nov 2003, 12:58
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
what is so good about these?
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11 Nov 2003, 13:21
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
I don't really understand the whole bittorrent thing myself. I understand that if you are trying to grab a file it connects to other users with the file and uses them to accelerate it and vice versa. However it only works with bittorrent servers which is the thing I don't get, how are you supposed to find servers with the file you are after so far I've only seen a few sites of any use that support it making it something of a specialist tool to me!?
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11 Nov 2003, 13:29
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
i use ABC
its a modifed version of the shadow client i think
http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/
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11 Nov 2003, 13:43
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
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Originally Posted by djbass
I don't really understand the whole bittorrent thing myself. I understand that if you are trying to grab a file it connects to other users with the file and uses them to accelerate it and vice versa. However it only works with bittorrent servers which is the thing I don't get, how are you supposed to find servers with the file you are after so far I've only seen a few sites of any use that support it making it something of a specialist tool to me!?
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Find a site that hosts them, obviously.
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11 Nov 2003, 14:01
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Godfather
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
Theres one absolutley ace site for torrents.....
It sounds like Super Nova.
Except its not spelt that way...
thats all im saying.
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11 Nov 2003, 14:07
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
BT works like this: - Someone has a file. He also hes a server. He generates the "tracker"-file, which you will later download (some kb only).
- This file contains stuff like the tracker-server-IP, additional IPs, what the file is about maybe, and a checksum.
- You download it from SuprNova or wherever, your client reserves disk space, and connects to the tracker. The tracker knows who else is online atm, and what parts those people have downloaded. It will also tell other people YOUR IP, and how much you have downloaded.
- Your client connects the IPs it's been told, and you get the data you want. At the same time, you're sending stuff you already have to someone else.
Obviously, this leads to some problems: - Once a tracker-server changes, or goes offline, your torrent-file becomes useless
- Generally, without a tracker, no download
- The tracker needs to do the "balancing", i.e. whose parts get redistributed to which users etc, some algorithm stuff whatever, I sometimes doubt it's really "fair"
And, finally, what about good clients? Well: - The standard client only has one simultaneous download, which is uncomfortable. It also has no bandwidth control. So, good clients:
- You can download / manage more than one file at once
- You can (to some extent) manage up- and downstream
- Nice & informative status messages + labels...
- Better design, more comfortable to use...
Basically things you would expect to be standard.
Limiting your upspeed is a "bad" idea for the whole BT-concept though, as "not sharing" is a general problem. Additionally, simultaneous downloads un-balance the whole network more and more. Think about ADSL, more downstream than upstream, can't really work "equally"...
Big shame though the simple standard shitty client has a "self-disabling upstream-feature", it uses so much traffic, that even your downstream can't work 100%. And checking eMails or so is almost impossible, with having 20 bytes / sec left...
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11 Nov 2003, 16:37
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
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Originally Posted by JetLinus
The standard client only has one simultaneous download, which is uncomfortable. It also has no bandwidth control.
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Big shame though the simple standard shitty client has a "self-disabling upstream-feature", it uses so much traffic, that even your downstream can't work 100%. And checking eMails or so is almost impossible, with having 20 bytes / sec left...
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I still use the offical client.
It has supported multiple downloads for months btw.
As for bandwidth, I have a program called NetLimiter which allows me to control bandwidth (up and down) for the whole system, a particular program, a single connection to a program (ie. a particular upload on Kazaa) or combinations of these.
I just limit my p2p clients to a maximum that's about 5k/sec slower than the cable connection can upload.
The obvious benefit there is that it works with BT, Kazaa, DC...
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11 Nov 2003, 17:53
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
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Originally Posted by JammyJim
Theres one absolutley ace site for torrents.....
It sounds like Super Nova.
Except its not spelt that way...
thats all im saying.
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.com has a subribtion charge and I am 'a bit worried' about handing over credit card details.
.org is free but doesnt seem to have much
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11 Nov 2003, 18:20
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Sub
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
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Originally Posted by JammyJim
Theres one absolutley ace site for torrents.....
It sounds like Super Nova.
Except its not spelt that way...
thats all im saying.
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You must mean www.suprnova.org !
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11 Nov 2003, 18:26
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
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Originally Posted by JetLinus
Limiting your upspeed is a "bad" idea for the whole BT-concept though, as "not sharing" is a general problem.
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Without an upload limit my upload would be constantly maxed out and thus causing packet loss etc and causing my download speed to come to a standstill.
As for people not sharing, you just have to find a community/forum that's not full of a bunch of idiots.
I finished a download a few days ago but have jumped back on to seed it when some people asked. If everyone thinks the same way it works.
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11 Nov 2003, 18:46
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ is the client thats my fav, admittedly I dont use BT much as I dont like the network much (I just leave it uploading and rarely download anything)
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12 Nov 2003, 10:05
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King of The Fat Boys
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
So I've been using Shadow's Experimental but I can't figure out how you continue an incomplete download.
So how do you do it??
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12 Nov 2003, 11:59
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The Bad Guy
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
I'm using BT++ at the moment, and it keeps crashing :/
Not sure whether to grab that other thing or just hope I get this down.
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12 Nov 2003, 12:03
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
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Originally Posted by ChubbyChecker
So I've been using Shadow's Experimental but I can't figure out how you continue an incomplete download.
So how do you do it??
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Either
Press 'resume' after pausing it.
Or
Load the torrent file again and point it to the incomplete files.
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12 Nov 2003, 12:15
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King of The Fat Boys
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri
Either
Press 'resume' after pausing it.
Or
Load the torrent file again and point it to the incomplete files.
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So I go back to suprnova (or wherever), click on the link and tell it to download it to the same place I told it to download to before? Okay, I'll give that a go when I'm on my computer.
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12 Nov 2003, 12:23
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
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Originally Posted by ChubbyChecker
So I go back to suprnova (or wherever), click on the link and tell it to download it to the same place I told it to download to before? Okay, I'll give that a go when I'm on my computer.
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No, you open the torrent file that's on your pc....
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12 Nov 2003, 12:46
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri
No, you open the torrent file that's on your pc....
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if he saved the torrent file that is
what he said will work just as well (or he could search though his internet files but he won't know which one it is unless it's actually called something other than the hash)
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12 Nov 2003, 12:53
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
Yes, but it takes more effort.
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12 Nov 2003, 13:00
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
I use BT++ too... never had any problems with it myself.
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12 Nov 2003, 13:44
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King of The Fat Boys
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri
No, you open the torrent file that's on your pc....
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Where's that saved?
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12 Nov 2003, 13:48
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
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Originally Posted by ChubbyChecker
Where's that saved?
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Whereever you saved it :|
Although as was said, you may not have done.
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12 Nov 2003, 13:51
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King of The Fat Boys
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Re: What Bittorrent client should I download?
No, I didn't save it anywhere. I thought maybe it was in the install file or something.
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