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Eventh · 6 Oct 2003, 23:27

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A little bug in the Alliance Ranking code has allowed members set to "Recruits" avoid counting towards the alliance score and rank. This has now been fixed. The fix will be uploaded october 8th at approximately 22:00 GMT (but not showing until the tick after)

This means that we will see the real rankings, or will some alliances find new ways to hide, by splitting up or otherways??
Or will we finaly have a real alliance ranking. If so, this might bring new blood to the powerblock discussion, since we can see how big alliances realy are

Anyway, its a good thing i think. Thank you spinner!

Treveler · 6 Oct 2003, 23:32

Will be interesting to see.

Eventh · 6 Oct 2003, 23:40

This dont have to do with the topic of the thread, and please dont discuss it, but we see here a change in prosedures for updates..

He now warns us in advantage, and it seems like he has thought it through, since he says it wont take affect before the tick after. Good job spinner..

Kjeldoran · 6 Oct 2003, 23:48

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Originally Posted by Eventh

This means that we will see the real rankings, or will some alliances find new ways to hide, by splitting up or otherways??
Or will we finaly have a real alliance ranking. If so, this might bring new blood to the powerblock discussion, since we can see how big alliances realy are

Anyway, its a good thing i think. Thank you spinner!

idd, nothing new for us, FAnG, here since we've always showed our full score untill a few days ago. It's a good thing Spinner changed to score though.

rgds Kj

Psi_K · 6 Oct 2003, 23:51

How about adding a MEMBER COUNT while you're at it spinner?
I mean surely giving away all the alliance's info is what you're striving for ... right??

:gay:

Eventh · 7 Oct 2003, 00:03

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Originally Posted by Psi_K

How about adding a MEMBER COUNT while you're at it spinner?
I mean surely giving away all the alliance's info is what you're striving for ... right??

You forgot that Mit added a membercount for a short time, a few weeks ago??

xtothez · 7 Oct 2003, 00:41

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Originally Posted by Eventh

You forgot that Mit added a membercount for a short time, a few weeks ago??

And removed it when several alliance HCs complained about their data being publicised.

The ability to control your public image and strength has always been a skill in PA alliance politics.
If some alliance command want to run their mouth off about how great they are doing, that's their right. If other HC wish to keep their alliance out of the spotlight through political manouvering, it should also be their right to do so. It's the responsibility of any decent HC to get their own intel if they wish to pick a fight with someone. Having Spinner hand over the information is just lame.
There's nothing remotely 'honourable' about releasing full details on your alliance, it's just an easy way to get you and your members targeted quicker.

But hey, Spinner has decided what everyone should know, what does it matter if the actual players disagree?

Lei~ · 7 Oct 2003, 02:48

well the point is actually that ut gives the newer player an insight and also the less well informed alliances.
You never could play a trick on some alliance hc they had their own tools to check your coords and would know your score pretty much at least if they cared...
But now its possible for every peon to look it up so some propaganda wont be so easy to get through with
guess youre not liking that xtothez...

General Martok · 7 Oct 2003, 07:27

Actually I don't see any major changes in the alliance rankings since I went to sleep a few hours ago... Looks like it has some delay?

Lockhead · 7 Oct 2003, 07:44

Jep, it did NOT work Spinner :-)

Veil05 · 7 Oct 2003, 07:46

how about giving a ratio score? that way we can just work out member count for ourselfs.

starbreeze · 7 Oct 2003, 07:49

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Originally Posted by Lockhead

Jep, it did NOT work Spinner :-)

maybe its because the notice says
"The fix will be uploaded october 8th at approximately 22:00 GMT (but not showing until the tick after)"

this not being the 8th of oct yet...^^

Legator · 7 Oct 2003, 08:35

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Originally Posted by xtothez

And removed it when several alliance HCs complained about their data being publicised.

The ability to control your public image and strength has always been a skill in PA alliance politics.
If some alliance command want to run their mouth off about how great they are doing, that's their right. If other HC wish to keep their alliance out of the spotlight through political manouvering, it should also be their right to do so. It's the responsibility of any decent HC to get their own intel if they wish to pick a fight with someone. Having Spinner hand over the information is just lame.
There's nothing remotely 'honourable' about releasing full details on your alliance, it's just an easy way to get you and your members targeted quicker.

But hey, Spinner has decided what everyone should know, what does it matter if the actual players disagree?

i have to agree with your there, even if your giving us shitload of incs

Provider · 7 Oct 2003, 13:22

Talking about fast bug fixing. This "bug" was known since tick 1 and is now fixed? Please dont call this a bug fix. you know it but were just to lazy to change it.

And now after so many (ab)uses it you decide to change it. Okay fine that you change it. But dont call it a bug. Call it a change in ingame ranking counting.
A bug is something you fix the moment you see the bug. You knew this one was there since tick 1.
If you keep calling it a bug then I'm afraid that I've to think that creators are VERY slow in unbugging.

oh one thing. I aint saying it's bad it's finally changed. It's just rather late

hAl · 7 Oct 2003, 14:01

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Originally Posted by xtothez

But hey, Spinner has decided what everyone should know, what does it matter if the actual players disagree?

Looking at the general opinion you seem to be one of the few 'actual players' then. To most of us the alliance rankings are more fun with all people counting.

hAl

Razorback · 7 Oct 2003, 15:30

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Originally Posted by hAl

Looking at the general opinion you seem to be one of the few 'actual players' then. To most of us the alliance rankings are more fun with all people counting.

hAl

And you are yet again "the most of us" like in advertising paX ?
btw i wonder now that you agreed so wholeheartly and voiced so loudly for the great new game and told all other players who commented or asked for changes to "go away if you dont like it" why arent you doing well ?

Scoot951 · 7 Oct 2003, 15:39

I think, with the possible exception of the Ely members on this board, everyone agrees that this change was needed.

Tomkat · 7 Oct 2003, 15:52

I don't really mind it.

As long as we are all on a level-playing field from it, it won't change much.

AzureWrath · 7 Oct 2003, 23:07

it will be interesting to see the true 'strength' of all alliances now

DJet · 8 Oct 2003, 09:29

According to the Portal R&T say in the same place, and those that are set to "recruit" ingame are actually recruits....

Maddix · 8 Oct 2003, 12:04

I'd like to see average score of the alliance incorperated in some way as well. Would give the smaller alliances something to be proud of, as there is no way a group of 30 can beat 150 on total score....average score would be another matter tho.

kaos · 8 Oct 2003, 12:22

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Originally Posted by Maddix

I'd like to see average score of the alliance incorperated in some way as well. Would give the smaller alliances something to be proud of, as there is no way a group of 30 can beat 150 on total score....average score would be another matter tho.

yeah, why not give coordlists out too, then it would be totally equal for all ...

Scoot951 · 8 Oct 2003, 13:12

I'd support public planet tags myself, actually.

Jorinn · 8 Oct 2003, 13:37

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Originally Posted by Scoot951

I'd support public planet tags myself, actually.

As would I, but discretionary by planet.

SOL · 8 Oct 2003, 18:08

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Originally Posted by Maddix

I'd like to see average score of the alliance incorperated in some way as well. Would give the smaller alliances something to be proud of, as there is no way a group of 30 can beat 150 on total score....average score would be another matter tho.

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completly agree ! it should be ranked on the alliances average score , NOT cause a alliance has decided to mass recruit to gain the score to go to #1

:fingersx:

Morden · 8 Oct 2003, 18:14

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Originally Posted by SOL

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completly agree it should be ranked on the alliances average score , NOT cause a alliance has decided to mass recruit to gain the score to go to #1

:fingersx:

So the #1 player at the end of the round can make his own alliance and win the Planet Ranking and Alliance Rankings you mean?

That makes sence.

Scoot951 · 8 Oct 2003, 19:58

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Originally Posted by Morden

So the #1 player at the end of the round can make his own alliance and win the Planet Ranking and Alliance Rankings you mean?

That makes sence.

DroidArena does this (the last time I played anyways), with the exception that an alliance needs at least 5 members to be in the rankings. Ofc, in that style of game an alliance (corporation) of 5 could actually win a fight against one that had 40.