Fair Play...

[Hude]

Originally Posted by The_Fish

OK, for you, a little more depth to the ranks.

Omen and Angels are napped and co-operating on attacks. They have a few allies helping them also.
Insomnia are hitting anyone and everyone for some roids.
NewDawn are winning despite not napping anyone around them. They have co-operated a bit with Insomnia to stop Omen pulling away, but both allies keep hitting each other also.

And everyone keeps looking over their shoulder waiting for 1up to appear in front of them.....

You are so full of shit. (and you post too much)

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Hude

(and you post too much)

[Stoom]

Doesn't matter who you nap Kjel! 1up will prevail!

[MotoX]

So many shitty posts - even lies, and every poster think he can fool the community…dooooh!

More people then meets the eye knows about “things” so stop pretending and spell it out fools!

All “coords” are out and it’s not that difficult to figure things out…..

Why underestimate player’s know-how?

All top 5 allies got “friends” about…..what else is new?

[Lei~]

this almost makes me wanna rejoin fang/angels.

gogo kj (+kj specialised trolls)

[rain]

Just to clear few things

1. Those claiming there's an attack cooperation between angels and omen: you're full of shit. I organise all omen attacks, me and only me picking the targets. No one else, from omen or any other alliance will ever tell me what to hit and when. We have our own plans and stick with those. Targets picked are picked for a reason. Mostly high hostility towards us.
2. Our NAP with Angels exists mainly because of our shared bp's. It would be stupid to hit our own gals and weaken them. Though there are planets in our gals who were extremelly hostile to us. Warnings were sent, next step: incoming.
3. Whinning in forums is for the weak. You got owned in game and came here with tears in your eyes. You should have used the time spent in here to improve/help your alliance. You would have gained more.
4. Right back at the title.

[JonnyBGood]

Because this seems as good enough a place as any what on earth happened today? Omen lose a member and gain 4 mil score and 4k roids?

[rain]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

Because this seems as good enough a place as any what on earth happened today? Omen lose a member and gain 4 mil score and 4k roids?

use your imagination
here's a hint: we don't keep our members out of tag, we want them in and active, defending as much as posible

[Achilles]

rain, did your Mummy never tell you to be good on the internet and to play nice with the other boys and girls?

[SteInMetz]

i know mine did

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by rain

use your imagination

You imagined you gained 4k roids without any similar losses affecting any other alliance and it worked?

here's a hint: we don't keep our members out of tag, we want them in and active, defending as much as posible

Yeah but nobody lost enough roids. Even if omen, alone, were single-handedly responsible for all of the roids lost by all alliances who lost roids and are in the top twenty there still isn't enough roids. So logically, omen roided high roid count gals who utterly ignored defence and went out and capped an even greater, for the most part, number of roids off other planets, somehow.


Maybe my imagination is lacking

[Gate]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

Maybe my imagination is lacking

It's the Guinness.

I'll give you some hints.

200 roids + 300 roids + 450 roids = 1,150 roids.
300k score + 300k score + 520k score = 1120k score.

1,000 roids + 1,000 roids = 2,000 roids
800k score + 1 mil score = 1800k score.

2,000 roids - 1,150 roids = +850 roids
1800k score - 1120k score = +680k score.
2 members - 3 members = -1 member.

Numbers are completely and utterly made up, and I'm also hazarding a guess at what happened as I've only just got back and started paying attention to the internet.

[rain]

[JonnyBGood]

Guinness, two 'n's.



But yeah it really is, isn't it

[Zirikk]

Originally Posted by Gate

200 roids + 300 roids + 450 roids = 1,150 roids.

what?

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Zirikk

what?

He did say his numbers were completely made up

[Zirikk]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

He did say his numbers were completely made up

Better just ignore the whole post then!

[Ska]

Originally Posted by Stoom

Doesn't matter who you nap Kjel! 1up will prevail!

A thread without mentioning how 1up is working on an evil plan to take over the world is like a day without sunshine eh?

[SepH]

Originally Posted by Gate

It's the guiness.

I'll give you some hints.

200 roids + 300 roids + 450 roids = 1,150 roids.
300k score + 300k score + 520k score = 1120k score.

1,000 roids + 1,000 roids = 2,000 roids
800k score + 1 mil score = 1800k score.

2,000 roids - 1,150 roids = +850 roids
1800k score - 1120k score = +680k score.
2 members - 3 members = -1 member.

Numbers are completely and utterly made up, and I'm also hazarding a guess at what happened as I've only just got back and started paying attention to the internet.

gate just made my day (Y)

[gzambo]

Originally Posted by Gate

It's the guiness.

Uncle arthur is turning in his grave as we speak

[Fridge]

Originally Posted by gzambo

Uncle arthur is turning in his grave as we speak

and i tought he might be spinning there by now

[bwtmc]

You're all shit.

NewDawn for not realising 1up have more t50 planets (this is where you do the damage by the way) than all the allies they cooperate with put together.

Omen for getting caught up in Newdawn's politics.

Angels for lacking any aspiration to do anything.

And Insomnia for jumping on NewDawn's shit plan for not winning.


Much applause for 1up, Subh, VGN and whoever else is still playing

[lokken]

Originally Posted by bwtmc

You're all shit.

NewDawn for not realising 1up have more t50 planets (this is where you do the damage by the way) than all the allies they cooperate with put together.

Omen for getting caught up in Newdawn's politics.

Angels for lacking any aspiration to do anything.

And Insomnia for jumping on NewDawn's shit plan for not winning.


Much applause for 1up, Subh, VGN and whoever else is still playing

ND are certainly in between a rock and a hard place, as if they don't eliminate Omen fast they get buggered by Omen and if they hit 1up, then Omen or someone else will almost certainly overtake them as they take their eye off the ball. It certainly looks like their politics aren't as good as they could be considering blocking massively was an easy plan for them. Insomnia have helped in the mixing pot, considering their refusal to do more or less anything for a while, which means 1up (if they do have a lot of top 50 planets as you say) are actually in a very strong position. Chuck on the fact that ND have been as inconsistent as you like and you get 3 alliances that are in a lot of trouble if they don't all pull their socks up. I don't think the round is over for any of the 4 alliances i've mentioned, it's simply a case who really wants to roll up their sleeves and win it.

[bwtmc]

Nice post. As you rightly say, the biggest problem ND have now is 'eliminating' Omen from the equation now that they've made clear the way in which they want to win the round.

Of course, now that they've 'doubled up' against Omen, assuming Omen can't compete over time with them (perhaps with the help of someone else) will Omen simply subside when NewDawn 'decide' their battles are over.

I'm under the impression they won't.

[Tietäjä]

Originally Posted by bwtmc

I'm under the impression they won't.

You stand correct.

[Proxi]

I would have though you would be more canny than to hand the round to an opponent, simply because someone targeted you for the majority of the round Keiz.

Especially given your past record with politics.

[Tietäjä]

Hehe, my past records with politics? I have past records with politics? Most certainly not. See, though, Proxi, that should we "loose" the war with ND/Inso block, how would it be "handing out victory"? At that point, we'd only be left with a major impact on who doesn't win, not really on who wins - especially ourselves.

I don't see us loosing the war with ND and Insomnia so far though, as we've been taking them off alone for a bit now and have not been doing too bad. While the tides turn, we'll be seeing more action in this war yet. Assuming we can't compete is just placing bets, and I merely placed my bet on how things might continue should the dire scenario bwtmc painted come true.

In no way, did I say "we'll attack ND for the rest of the round", as that's obviously not necessary to beat them down. The war is yet to be fought, shouldn't jump into hasty conclusions based my replies on bwtmc's assumptions. I was merely clearing on the equation he mentioned ND would need to pull off to win the round. As he said, the biggest problem.

[Proxi]

Then my apologies for interpreting this post:

Originally Posted by Tietäjä

You stand correct.

incorrectly!

[lokken]

Originally Posted by bwtmc

Nice post. As you rightly say, the biggest problem ND have now is 'eliminating' Omen from the equation now that they've made clear the way in which they want to win the round.

Of course, now that they've 'doubled up' against Omen, assuming Omen can't compete over time with them (perhaps with the help of someone else) will Omen simply subside when NewDawn 'decide' their battles are over.

I'm under the impression they won't.

Well the key here is the obsession with one another and the suggestion I would make is that some people need to sit back and think about some kind of plan for the future as blindly hitting people isn't doing anyone any favours.

As much as you believe ND have the wrong belief, i'm not sure many people have a choice, because everyone's going to have to play a bit differently to actually have real hope.

[bwtmc]

Of course, this round-long obsession with not allowing each other to grow organically is the main cause for the predicament they've now found themselves in. It's going to war for second place half way through the round, with two other alliances breathing down your neck and another miles in front.

While funny from a distance, it's pretty disappointing. I can't think of a more pathetic round of Planetarion.

[Mek]

Originally Posted by bwtmc

While funny from a distance, it's pretty disappointing. I can't think of a more pathetic round of Planetarion.

i thought r16 was pathetic

[Squidly]

Mek... he's (ex?)-ascendancy. Of course he doesn't think R16 was bad.

[bwtmc]

I was happy the XP point was finally made and believe the score formula's a lot better as a result of that round. It was also great to see (SubH and) NewDawn stand up to the strongest ally and have a go at them for most of the round. And no, just spectating!

[Alki]

the fact people have been saying it for weeks, yet there is no action done about it, leaves alot to be desired for what to expect from this round

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Squidly

Mek... he's (ex?)-ascendancy. Of course he doesn't think R16 was bad.

He's black, of course he's uneducated!

[Banned]

Originally Posted by bwtmc

While funny from a distance, it's pretty disappointing. I can't think of a more pathetic round of Planetarion.

I think you should stop posting, for the good of AD.

[bwtmc]

Yeah I clearly killed alliance discussions altogether with (oh no) alliance discussion.

Edit: Although, that statement was far more open-ended than it needed to be, it was said with regard to what I'd been discussing with lokken, not what's been going on in the round in general.

[_Kila_]

Originally Posted by bwtmc

Yeah I clearly killed alliance discussions altogether with (oh no) alliance discussion.

Edit: Although, that statement was far more open-ended than it needed to be, it was said with regard to what I'd been discussing with lokken, not what's been going on in the round in general.

Yes.
You deserve to be shot. k?

[bwtmc]

Luckily i'm not trying to win awards for best ad poster so it's okay

[Proxi]

Bit of controversy is what this place needs.
So....

1up have already won!!!1111up

[Banned]

Originally Posted by bwtmc

Yeah I clearly killed alliance discussions altogether with (oh no) alliance discussion.

Calling a round boring when you're not playing it isn't discussing alliances.

[bwtmc]

I knew that's what you were getting at and that the original post wasn't fantastic, but i don't see what 'me playing' has to do with anything. Am I less 'qualified' to post therefore. :|

My opinion, if i'm qualified to have one, is that the aforementioned (lack of) politics does make for quite a dull round (so far). Having said that, since I'm not playing but intend to play again, if there's interesting alliance things going on beneath sandmans and irc, i'm genuinely intrigued to know what they are!

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by bwtmc

I knew that's what you were getting at and that the original post wasn't fantastic, but i don't see what 'me playing' has to do with anything. Am I less 'qualified' to post therefore. :|

My opinion, if i'm qualified to have one, is that the aforementioned (lack of) politics does make for quite a dull round (so far). Having said that, since I'm not playing but intend to play again, if there's interesting alliance things going on beneath sandmans and irc, i'm genuinely intrigued to know what they are!

There can be a case made that being less involved in alliance politics makes it inherently less interesting. I don't think there's actually less politics this round, people just seem less sure of where to put their feet than usual due to ascendancy's semi-disappearance, 1up's apparent underperformance, insomnia and omen both being new allies to the round. The more rounds of PA that are played the less people seem to work out how they're going to win sometimes. You either get grinders who work non-stop or people who aren't really too bothered. It's just a little bit of strategy baby!

[Squidly]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

He's black, of course he's uneducated!

Damn where could I have gone wrong there!

To clarify, that wasn't a dig at anyone, that was just a response to mek's wondering about R16 being a gongshow and how bwtmc could have 'overlooked' it.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Squidly

Damn where could I have gone wrong there!

To clarify, that wasn't a dig at anyone, that was just a response to mek's wondering about R16 being a gongshow and how bwtmc could have 'overlooked' it.

For the love of peter andre. If, and I stress if, in fact bwmtc's proposition is correct and 1up are in fact secretly gaining lots of score out of tag and are actually running away with the round then, seeing as this would be rather similar to last round, surely this round would be more pathetic for being a repeat of the same thing that happened last round? After all "fool me once...." et cetera.

[Squidly]

/me googles peter andre :/

Can I say "for the love of rubber chickens?"

Last round was pathetic in the sense that noone could do anything about ascendancy. It was noted that a fair number of your planets were dinky and couldn't be whacked by the value players: IE hiding underneath game mechanics etc. Politics last round didn't matter either. Ascendancy cleverly used the game mechanics and won it. No shame there, but unfortunately, a fair bit of the community didn't approve.

This round, politics do matter. If omen/angels/nd/insom/etc go after 1up and their 'hidden' planets... 1up won't(may not) win. If they don't, 1up could win. Two different ways it can go, as opposed to last round where it was "ascendancy wins, or ascendancy wins" the moment it was realized what they were doing(xp whoring, etc). Let's face it... the only way rain caught up to you guys is due to a bunch of players making some incredibly silly attacks on his planet.

*shrugs* seems to be two scenarios not quite matching up here. Possible I'm grabbing the wrong end of the stick, but you'll have to explain that one to me

[JonnyBGood]

It's very similar to last round, if actions are taken in time to prevent certain outcomes those certain outcomes would have been and will be prevented.

[hook]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

There can be a case made that being less involved in alliance politics makes it inherently less interesting.

And quite the contrary aswell. I haven't played for some rounds now, yet the politics seem more interesting now cause it's easier to objectively analyse what's happening without having to worry about how certain decisions could affect your own party. (There's the obvious difference between a regular member and a HC here though, ofcourse).

[Kjeldoran]

1up has the luxury that nobody here really knows what their true score is. Are they 10 mill ahead of Omen? Are they not hiding any members and is their current score their actual score?
Everyone is basing themselves on their intel or the intel of their friends/allies. Alot assume that all the top100 planets who aren't assigned to an alliance are infact 1up ... yet nobody knows this for a certainty.

If 1up pulls another ascendancy and win, deservedly ofcourse (like Ascendancy deserved to win), then that's another blow for PA and another trend of playing is set.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by bwtmc

You're all shit.

NewDawn for not realising 1up have more t50 planets (this is where you do the damage by the way) than all the allies they cooperate with put together.

Omen for getting caught up in Newdawn's politics.

Angels for lacking any aspiration to do anything.

And Insomnia for jumping on NewDawn's shit plan for not winning.


Much applause for 1up, Subh, VGN and whoever else is still playing

hehe