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Zither · 31 Jan 2003, 01:15

After reading a few of the iraq threads i have come to the conclusion that GD is no different to the DF3 forums on jolt. The consensus of opinion may be different, a better attempt at arguing the point may be used, but the general 'i will not listen to all your argument, just find one part of it i can argue with and attempt to use it against you whilst ignoring the rest' part remains the same.

People complain that the USA does not know about europe, well, from what i have read a lot of europe people say, they have no idea about the USA. Sure they read a few news articles, maybe read a few website, but they are still ignorent whilst thinking they know. Its just a mirror image of some of the USA people on the DF3 forums. Ignorence from the majority with a few people who actually will listen to an opposing point of view and consider it.

You are all as bad as each other, complaining the other side is ignorant and knows nothing.

MrL_JaKiri · 31 Jan 2003, 01:16

GD has idiots. But not as many.

Ap0k · 31 Jan 2003, 01:17

a lot of the problems with df3 appear to stem from the abusive mods who are all too willing to flex their power over the 'new folk' which is us (GD) in most cases.

personally i just dont go there any more, but from what little ive read its just a lot of immature bickering between mods who are all too ready to ban at the first sight of a 'dreaded pa-er' and the pa folk who just go back cuz they are getting a reaction.

Zapman · 31 Jan 2003, 01:17

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Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
GD has idiots. But not as many.

Used to have alot more.

Neferti · 31 Jan 2003, 01:28

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Originally posted by Zapman
Used to have alot more.

used to be a lot more interesting too...

Nixjim · 31 Jan 2003, 01:32

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Originally posted by Zapman
Used to have alot more.

Who can forget all the "Legion is ruining the game" type posts before they split PA discussions off from GD

Xillah · 31 Jan 2003, 04:04

People who disagree with us dont get deleted onsite though.

Scoot951 · 31 Jan 2003, 05:50

It's fun, my second account has somehow avoided being deleted thus far - My first got killed completely randomly after only 2 posts, dunno why, no response from the mods.

While arguing with an entire forum that disagrees with me will likely result in my brain exploding at some point, it gives me something to do.

Dante Hicks · 31 Jan 2003, 06:41

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Originally posted by Zither
After reading a few of the iraq threads i have come to the conclusion that GD is no different to the DF3 forums on jolt.

At least people don't have oversized sigs with flags in them.

And due to fascistic moderating here, there's less direct flaming.

xtrasyn · 31 Jan 2003, 06:43

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Originally posted by Zither
After reading a few of the iraq threads i have come to the conclusion that GD is no different to the DF3 forums on jolt. The consensus of opinion may be different, a better attempt at arguing the point may be used, but the general 'i will not listen to all your argument, just find one part of it i can argue with and attempt to use it against you whilst ignoring the rest' part remains the same.

People complain that the USA does not know about europe, well, from what i have read a lot of europe people say, they have no idea about the USA. Sure they read a few news articles, maybe read a few website, but they are still ignorent whilst thinking they know. Its just a mirror image of some of the USA people on the DF3 forums. Ignorence from the majority with a few people who actually will listen to an opposing point of view and consider it.

You are all as bad as each other, complaining the other side is ignorant and knows nothing.

You know nothing.

xtrasyn · 31 Jan 2003, 06:56

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Originally posted by Nixjim
Who can forget all the "Legion is ruining the game" type posts before they split PA discussions off from GD

Heh
Propaganda wars are not as useful as they were indeed

Structural Integrity · 31 Jan 2003, 09:04

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Originally posted by xtrasyn
Heh
Propaganda wars are not as useful as they were indeed

oh.... nostalgia ahoy......
We spammed the board one day with anti-legion threads and trying to provoke Fury to go to war with them.

heh heh

len!n · 31 Jan 2003, 10:09

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Originally posted by Zither [...] a better attempt at arguing the point may be used, [...] [/b]

Quite a major difference that makes a difference, methinks.

Emperorn · 31 Jan 2003, 12:35

Df3 reminds me of Beavis and Butthead. Some clueless moron posts something completely ludicrous and instead of being challenged the rest of the morons gather round in support. Then they end up with a 3-page thread of which half is "yeah, yeah, we rule!" and the other half is american flags.

An other comparison would be the Jerry Springer Show. At first you are amused, but the longer you watch the more you find yourself wishing for somebody to enter the studio with a machinegun.

Embroglio · 31 Jan 2003, 13:11

Glad to say theres alot less racism and homophobia here.

Structural Integrity · 31 Jan 2003, 13:18

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Originally posted by Emperorn
Df3 reminds me of Beavis and Butthead. Some clueless moron posts something completely ludicrous and instead of being challenged the rest of the morons gather round in support. Then they end up with a 3-page thread of which half is "yeah, yeah, we rule!" and the other half is american flags.

This made me laugh

wu_trax · 31 Jan 2003, 13:23

unfortunatly noone in any internetforum i know about ever changed his/her opinion, i never met such a person, so all these discussions are all pretty much useless, even if they are fun sometimes.
i for example do consider the points texan has, but i cant say i support the us-war on iraq but im conviced that it will make things worse. that doesnt make much snece to me.

Bunga · 31 Jan 2003, 13:46

Very true. No matter where on the net you are, boards, irc, even newsgroups for heavens sake: no one will listen to your argument enough to change his/her mind about it.

Of course, that cuts both ways. I try to be open, but mostly I think people are just wrong.

wu_trax · 31 Jan 2003, 13:50

btw, it could be a lot wqorse than here. did you ever try to discuss with one of these communists? its close to impossible, in fact they make me want to a) rebuild the wall, twice as high or b) sell eastern germany to poland :/

Structural Integrity · 31 Jan 2003, 13:53

Then I must be the single exception then.
I have admittedly changed my mind about American civilians in a thread here and had a good debate with someone. This all happened right after the Jolt/DF3 incident.

Bunga · 31 Jan 2003, 13:53

Are you talking about the communists here or the ones at df3 or some other place?

I mean, I'm a communist here, and I don't want to rebuild the wall...

EDIT: what incident Struct?

wu_trax · 31 Jan 2003, 13:56

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Originally posted by Bunga
Are you talking about the communists here or the ones at df3 or some other place?

I mean, I'm a communist here, and I don't want to rebuild the wall...

no, im talking about another forum (and its me how wants to sell the east to poland, there is no point in wasting money on it

. no, im not really serious on that, but you simply cant talk with the people i met in that forum. all they say is that the evil capital ripps off the poor employees and that in a country with a state quote above 50%

)

Structural Integrity · 31 Jan 2003, 13:57

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Originally posted by Bunga

EDIT: what incident Struct?

The very first clash.... when the there was much America whin0ring around here because the damn DF3 lot were such pricks.
I was very biased at that moment, but a good debate made me change my opinion of that moment.

Bunga · 31 Jan 2003, 13:57

I was like gone between Sept last year and a week or so back, so I probably missed it.

Sounded like fun

xtrasyn · 31 Jan 2003, 14:01

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Originally posted by wu_trax
unfortunatly noone in any internetforum i know about ever changed his/her opinion, i never met such a person, so all these discussions are all pretty much useless, even if they are fun sometimes.
i for example do consider the points texan has, but i cant say i support the us-war on iraq but im conviced that it will make things worse. that doesnt make much snece to me.

Hi wu_trax. I've changed my opinion many times publicly, and have often publicly apologised to people for making a wrong statement.

Now you know one.

Bunga · 31 Jan 2003, 14:04

I have seen a few people apologise when they make an incorrect statement, or correct an incorrect factual statement.

But arguing with someone and changing their views... I refer to the parabole about the disabled Olympics.

wu_trax · 31 Jan 2003, 14:09

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Originally posted by xtrasyn
Hi wu_trax. I've changed my opinion many times publicly, and have often publicly apologised to people for making a wrong statement.

Now you know one.

well thats one. (in fact i know one other in yet another forum, but he never had a point of view that was consistent in itself, so that doesnt really count)

Kumnaa · 31 Jan 2003, 14:28

I couldnt care less that GD is similar to another forum somewhere else.

menth0l · 31 Jan 2003, 16:54

It's similar in that there are people, a board and some messages.

Everything else is better.

Nodrog · 31 Jan 2003, 18:52

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Originally posted by Bunga
But arguing with someone and changing their views... I refer to the parabole about the disabled Olympics.

I dont see why. Ive had my views on certain subjects changed because of arguments on several occassions. The fact that stupid people often dont want to new learn things or challenge their pre-established notions doesnt make debate in general a futile exercise.

JonnyBGood · 31 Jan 2003, 20:50

They have better gimmick accounts, their mods are easier to confuse, they're easier to troll and complete superiority would be pathetically easy to achieve with a modicum of intelligence and a little motivation.

Go there.

PS Why did you tell us that and not even attempt to propose a rational solution?