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Unread 20 Feb 2010, 19:00   #1
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So champagne is beyond you. Fine.

Let's try something easier ...

Do I want an Iphone?

Or do i want something else?

I currently pay 40 a month for 300 minutes and 100 texts on Orange.

I strongly suspect I am being screwed over (I have a pretty average phone but it does have the radio which i listen to) - as I am currently on gardening leave i have the time to sort out this kind of thing

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How long is left on your contract?
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Unread 21 Feb 2010, 00:43   #3
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it's over due for replacement by some months
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Unread 21 Feb 2010, 03:53   #4
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35 a month for 600 minutes and 500 texts and free internet with the iPhone. I believe this is available on all the major providers
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Unread 21 Feb 2010, 22:55   #5
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The HTC Hero is a better phone than the iPhone
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Unread 21 Feb 2010, 22:56   #6
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Although the Bravo will be out soon and that's better
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O.k 5 days late but as i used to work for a mobile phone company i guess i can offer help.

- What features do you want the phone to have? What must it have what would be nice and what could you not care less about? You mentioned Radio for example.
- How much do you want to spend a month and are you bothered about a 12/18/24 month contract?
- what sort of handset do you want? Large Screen, flip phone, touch screen. slide phone ect ect
- What do you use the phone most for, calls, texts and/or internet or is email important?

You are more than likely being totally screwed on that contract. For 40 you can get a LOT more texts, call time and a pretty good phone from most networks.

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O.k 5 days late but as i used to work for a mobile phone company i guess i can offer help.

- What features do you want the phone to have? What must it have what would be nice and what could you not care less about? You mentioned Radio for example.
- How much do you want to spend a month and are you bothered about a 12/18/24 month contract?
- what sort of handset do you want? Large Screen, flip phone, touch screen. slide phone ect ect
- What do you use the phone most for, calls, texts and/or internet or is email important?

You are more than likely being totally screwed on that contract. For 40 you can get a LOT more texts, call time and a pretty good phone from most networks.
I want the nerds I trust to tell me what I want.

and then tell me how I go about doing it (ideally involving minimum fuss and/or effort on my part)
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Unread 25 Feb 2010, 22:55   #9
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That's your first mistake, right there.
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I shall pray for you, my s... Wait hang on.
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Hey yahwe is lincoln's inn any good? I just got a picture with Lord Walker there and he rambled on a little about the supreme court (he banged his gavel too!)
I saw someone who strangely resembled pig there but I don't see any reason for pig to have been there!
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Hey yahwe is lincoln's inn any good? I just got a picture with Lord Walker there and he rambled on a little about the supreme court (he banged his gavel too!)
I saw someone who strangely resembled pig there but I don't see any reason for pig to have been there!
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Unread 26 Feb 2010, 02:48   #14
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Well they did have portraits of quite a few judges that I recognised so it sounds pretty cool!
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Shut up kila you wannabe

Yahwe, get an HTC. I have a Magic but mark is right, the Hero is better (and better than the iphone which is just a gimmick for sheep).

The HTC phones run on an OS built by Google called Droid. There's a few phones out there that use it. It means you get lots of nifty apps (like the iphone) but the ones that google have made are the best. I just downloaded Google translate today - you talk into the phone, it works out what you said, then it can say the same thing back in about 30 different languages. It's pretty neat!
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IF I was going to, where do i get one?

Also a friend of mine on friday was trying to talk me into a blackberry (on the grounds that they are more reliable and more 'grown up')

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Wrong the Android OS was not built by google, it was acquired by them.

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There's a few phones out there that use it. It means you get lots of nifty apps (like the iphone) but the ones that google have made are the best.
The iPhone has far more applications, personally i prefer the palm pre webOS to the HTC androidOS and this is basically what it boils down too "personal preference" So Yahwe take a trip to the local phone shop and have a try of a few, each can do the same as the other only in different ways, pick out the one you like the best.
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Unread 28 Feb 2010, 19:17   #18
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Wrong the Android OS was not built by google, it was acquired by them.
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So Yahwe take a trip to the local phone shop and have a try of a few, each can do the same as the other only in different ways, pick out the one you like the best.
You're clearly not from around these parts.

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Also a friend of mine on friday was trying to talk me into a blackberry (on the grounds that they are more reliable and more 'grown up')

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+1 I loved my Blackberry or Crackberry as i called it. If email is your thing and you want a really well made handset with a lovely physical keyboard then ..... 9700 Blackberry Bold.

The how you get it is easy. If pop along to your nearest mobile phone shop and ASK to see them and see how they feel.

If you wanna take a punt then go to www.carphonewarehouse.com and buy it on their website.

My choices are

Iphone 3gs Review - Buy it.
HTC Hero Review - Buy it.
Blackberry Bold Review - Buy it.

Bold v's Iphone


are 3 very nice handsets within your price bracket all available as above. Although i am sure others can suggest alternative outlets.

Or you could just save yourself the hassle and buy the damn iPhone
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Which company are you with? Are you open to joining another one?

Blasto works in Vodafone on Oxford St - I'm sure he'd find a nice deal and be able to give you more useful information than us
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Do you know which one on oxford street?

How does carphone warehouse work? How does it make money (I don't object to people making money but i like to know how they do it).

Why isn't it vodaphone?
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for someone who's supposed to know everything you sure ask a lot of questions :\
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how do you think i learned everything?
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Do you know which one on oxford street?

How does carphone warehouse work? How does it make money (I don't object to people making money but i like to know how they do it).

Why isn't it vodaphone?
1. I think it's the one near Bond Street tube but I don't know... do you have his number?

2. I don't really know. I assume it's some sort of commission based income but I don't see how it can be enough to run whole shops in major high streets.

2. I think Vodafone started somewhere else before coming to the UK (possible in europe somewhere?). Maybe they just thought it looked hip!
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I don't have his number -
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Do you know which one on oxford street?
Never been there but could be this one on Oxford Street. The site only shows one :/

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How does carphone warehouse work? How does it make money (I don't object to people making money but i like to know how they do it).
Not sure how it works these days but CPW used to get commission based on the contracts they sold for the networks (this was before the networks themselves really started to push there own stores onto the highstreets). Some networks used to give a whole load more commission than others. CPW kept getting accused of not really being "Independent" as it was said they just pushed the contracts and phones they made the most money out of. I think they are trying to change this perception now but essentially they get a cut and their sales advisors obv get commission on what they sell.

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Fone prolly because it looks hip yeah the VODA comes from VOice and DAta i got told once but it does sounds good!
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Never been there but could be this one on Oxford Street. The site only shows one :/

1) the site shows more than 1 for people who can use the internet
2) by what right do you dare to presume that I would make such an obvious ****ing error?

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1) the site shows more than 1 for people who can use the internet
2) by what right do you dare to presume that I would make such an obvious ****ing error?

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1) You are right. I presumed putting "London" in the only search criteria available (without a post code) called "Town" would show me ALL shops. It doesn't. It was no personal reflection on you.
2) As for the tone of this question and the rest. I'm confused, and so just for clarity and my own personal satisfaction I have to ask, and please do respond in this thread so it cannot be missed - How old are you?

I hope you are happy with your purchase.
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he'll oneline you to death suggesting he's immortal or something equally dull while implicating a highfive towards his little circlejerk of two or maybe three other posters that's what happens when you mess with forum god like that
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1) You are right. I presumed putting "London" in the only search criteria available (without a post code) called "Town" would show me ALL shops. It doesn't. It was no personal reflection on you.
2) As for the tone of this question and the rest. I'm confused, and so just for clarity and my own personal satisfaction I have to ask, and please do respond in this thread so it cannot be missed - How old are you?

I hope you are happy with your purchase.
are you suggesting that there is a certain age which, when you reach it, makes you perfectly content to be patronised by lazy fools?

If you are then you must feel free to consider me distinctly below that age.
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are you suggesting that there is a certain age which, when you reach it, makes you perfectly content to be patronised by lazy fools?

If you are then you must feel free to consider me distinctly below that age.
It was a perfectly valid question to ask somebody on an internet forum. Being called a "twat" in your response previously appeared childish and immature. I asked your age to clarify whether i was indeed speaking to a 12 year old or a grown man. This would then help me understand maybe more where and how somebody would be led to also write -
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2) by what right do you dare to presume that I would make such an obvious ****ing error?
I apologized and acknowledged my mistake. I even said that my mistake should not be seen as a personal relection on you.

However you are persistant aren't you? Once again you have found the personal insult and acted somewhat curiously to an innocuous response from somebody who had a genuine interest to help.

I am still willing to help in any phone related matter but consider all other matters closed.
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I am still willing to help in any phone related matter but consider all other matters closed.
but I'll still get a christmas card?
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yahwe maybe you should be less of a dick sometimes
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Hmm, i just renewed my iphone contract, pay 19.99 a month for 600minutes 1200 texts and free inet on O2 Simplicity. 1 month rolling contract so easy to get off if another phone becomes available. Just a thought.
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Hmm, i just renewed my iphone contract, pay 19.99 a month for 600minutes 1200 texts and free inet on O2 Simplicity. 1 month rolling contract so easy to get off if another phone becomes available. Just a thought.
I see your point

- now it's just 'iphone or blackberry'

which i think i can summarise my position on as:

1) Blackberrys are what my clients have, they make you look professional and grown up and serious, you can get reception anywhere and they are easier for writing e-mails
2) Iphones are cool


this is my childish dilemma ...


maybe i should go for whichever one has the radio ...
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did you stare into the void trying to put on your thoughtful face while typing the points at the end of these sentences?
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I see your point

- now it's just 'iphone or blackberry'

which i think i can summarise my position on as:

1) Blackberrys are what my clients have, they make you look professional and grown up and serious, you can get reception anywhere and they are easier for writing e-mails
2) Iphones are cool


this is my childish dilemma ...


maybe i should go for whichever one has the radio ...
why do iphones not look professional/grown up/serious?
Reception is generally fine; problems do exist but they're rare.
I don't see why blackberries would be easier for writing emails; I prefer the iPhone keyboard.

ps. I was sober when I last posted on this thread
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Hmm, i just renewed my iphone contract, pay 19.99 a month for 600minutes 1200 texts and free inet on O2 Simplicity. 1 month rolling contract so easy to get off if another phone becomes available. Just a thought.
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why do iphones not look professional/grown up/serious?
I think the root of it is that awful view that anything fun can't be professional because professionals don't have fun.

it's an edwardian hangover - but one which lots of people ascribe to
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why do iphones not look professional/grown up/serious?
because silly people buy them because of all the silly apps and because all their silly friends have them
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Buy a BlackBerry (new bold 9700 or curve 8900). I promise if you don't like it I will buy it off you for nine times its value.

And Yes, You are being screwed over. Trust me, I work for Orange
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No radio on either of them

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I just messaged him on Foxystoat - hopefully he'll reply to you here!
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Hi Yahwe,

I would have recommended either the iPhone or the BlackBerry 9700 but judging by what you're after, I'd say go for something else.

You have a choice of 3. They are all Nokias.

Nokia E72
Nokia E71
Nokia E63

In that order. For specification reasons. My choice is the E71.


Why? Simple. All have FM Radio.

They also do emails, it's a serious phone and is "generally" better than iPhone & BlackBerry in terms of battery life (my experience). It's probably not a trend-setter like the other two brands but I don't think you need that (excuse me for daring to presume).


In terms of deals, Orange can and must offer you a better deal. One that includes push/pull email & internet bundle. As I don't know Orange's tariffs, looking at their website, it shows that maybe they could offer you the handset on 30 for 400 minutes, 300 texts (this is under Panther). Best thing to do is to speak to them to confirm this.

If they can't offer you a decent deal like that, then you're entitled to leave, request a PAC code and go to any other network provider. That will get their alarm bells ringing and they'll persuade you to stay & will succumb to your "demand" and offer you either the same or similar deal.

Hope this settles it.
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Hi Yahwe,

I would have recommended either the iPhone or the BlackBerry 9700 but judging by what you're after, I'd say go for something else.

You have a choice of 3. They are all Nokias.

Nokia E72
Nokia E71
Nokia E63

In that order. For specification reasons. My choice is the E71.


Why? Simple. All have FM Radio.

They also do emails, it's a serious phone and is "generally" better than iPhone & BlackBerry in terms of battery life (my experience). It's probably not a trend-setter like the other two brands but I don't think you need that (excuse me for daring to presume).


In terms of deals, Orange can and must offer you a better deal. One that includes push/pull email & internet bundle. As I don't know Orange's tariffs, looking at their website, it shows that maybe they could offer you the handset on 30 for 400 minutes, 300 texts (this is under Panther). Best thing to do is to speak to them to confirm this.

If they can't offer you a decent deal like that, then you're entitled to leave, request a PAC code and go to any other network provider. That will get their alarm bells ringing and they'll persuade you to stay & will succumb to your "demand" and offer you either the same or similar deal.

Hope this settles it.
Aren't you marvellous

Do i get to keep my telephone number if I leave?
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Do i get to keep my telephone number if I leave?
Why thank you.

Yes you can. It's what the PAC code is for (a code consisting of 3 letters and 6 numbers e.g. ORG123456).
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Yahwe as predictable as always, when enough people tell him to stop acting like a selfdelusional snob he starts his i can be friendly and happy act too for a while. You're such a cartoon character, Yahwe.
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Right.

So i got one.

And it has a radio.

Guess what i got.

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The smart option would have been n900, because it's simply the most awesome phone out there if you know what the **** you are doing. However, I'm going to guess e71, since it's rather popular for business types, and in all honesty a pretty good basic phone.
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