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Unread 5 Mar 2003, 02:28   #1
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Galaxy fund blocked

I remember in round 3 my galaxy had a lot of fun before protection ended trading resources back and forth to manage that extra amp or that research just 1 tick earlier.

I understand that donations during protection was removed to prevent massive boosting of one planet. However now that donations to larger planets is no longer possible I see no reason why use of the fund isn't allowed during protection.

Reinstate use of the fund and donations from the fund. Allow the full use of the fund as soon as a MoD is elected.
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Unread 5 Mar 2003, 03:12   #2
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it was blocked because of the creation of planets into a private galaxy which then donated and got deleted,it was posible to donate to all 10 planets this way
(actually it was 20 in rnd 5 wasnt it?)
thus anyone that managed it had a huge advantage
all planets with 3 roids init and cons+res going from tick 1

ahh what fun we had:-)
it was never removed for donations to larger planets and as such could possibly still be abused
so i cant see it getting reinstated
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Unread 5 Mar 2003, 03:17   #3
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There are two or three quests you can complete in the first tick, allowing you to initiate all roids as well as begin a research and construction.

That should be enough to make up for the lack of trading.
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Unread 5 Mar 2003, 03:19   #4
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There are two or three quests you can complete in the first tick, allowing you to initiate all roids as well as begin a research and construction.

That should be enough to make up for the lack of trading.
I'm sorry that you can't withdraw your wages from your bank account for the first 72h after they've been put in there, but that doesn't matter, because there are plenty of trash cans outside that you can scour for refundable bottles that should cover your expenses for 72h.
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it was blocked because of the creation of planets into a private galaxy which then donated and got deleted,it was posible to donate to all 10 planets this way
(actually it was 20 in rnd 5 wasnt it?)
thus anyone that managed it had a huge advantage
all planets with 3 roids init and cons+res going from tick 1

ahh what fun we had:-)
it was never removed for donations to larger planets and as such could possibly still be abused
so i cant see it getting reinstated
The point is that if someone cheats stop them, fix the loopholes. Don't stop the legit players from using a feature just because some people abuse it.
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I'm sorry that you can't withdraw your wages from your bank account for the first 72h after they've been put in there, but that doesn't matter, because there are plenty of trash cans outside that you can scour for refundable bottles that should cover your expenses for 72h.

You can't even deposit resources into the fund during protection, so there's no problem of having to wait 72 hours to retrieve them...

Hence the supplemental income from "rummaging" is all the more useful.
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The point is that if someone cheats stop them, fix the loopholes. Don't stop the legit players from using a feature just because some people abuse it.
point is u cant stop the loophole
as long as players can create and delete into a private galaxy with fund trading enabled
that loophole will exist
fund trading wasnt even enabled in round 5 and at least 500 players managed to do it
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point is u cant stop the loophole
as long as players can create and delete into a private galaxy with fund trading enabled
that loophole will exist
fund trading wasnt even enabled in round 5 and at least 500 players managed to do it
It should be really easy to solve simply by preventing people leaving a galaxy with any other means than exile once they've donated. However, it should also be real easy to simply delete people in galaxies with more than their total share of resources during the first 38 ticks.
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I'm sorry that you can't withdraw your wages from your bank account for the first 72h after they've been put in there, but that doesn't matter, because there are plenty of trash cans outside that you can scour for refundable bottles that should cover your expenses for 72h.
But the amazing thing is: we're still going to this bank.
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You can tell nothing is going on when people complain about resource trading in protection so they can get an extra day on some res/con
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If history has tought us something it has tought us that a tick or two missed at the beginning dont matter at all after a few weeks anyway.
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Unread 5 Mar 2003, 07:26   #12
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How to solve problem:
If a planet have donated 5000 units of mce-resources to the found, then get deleted.. Then the account that star in his possition, will retrive those resource units from the found.. If the resourses have been re-donated to a player, then it will be taken from the player.. And if the player have used it, then the planet wont get any thing..


People willing to trade with eachother, pre - 72th, should be in such a gla, that wont have any randoms.. So that this 'new' planet dont get any resources, IF they are used.. Shouldnt be a problem.. As there will be no 'new' player there.. Not getting any resources..

Any way, Personaly I think it works just fine now as it does..
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Unread 5 Mar 2003, 11:37   #13
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Any way, Personaly I think it works just fine now as it does..
The thing is that it doesn't work at all right now.
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There's less than a weeks to signups now. There is approximately zero chance of anything being changed to the game, and I would have thought everyone would know this by now, and "fixing" something that really doesn't seem to be much of a problem is not, and shouldn't be, at the top of priority-lists for the coders.
Finishing things a tick earlier will make no difference to the round, so just play "properly".
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Unread 5 Mar 2003, 12:14   #15
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There's less than a weeks to signups now. There is approximately zero chance of anything being changed to the game, and I would have thought everyone would know this by now, and "fixing" something that really doesn't seem to be much of a problem is not, and shouldn't be, at the top of priority-lists for the coders.
Finishing things a tick earlier will make no difference to the round, so just play "properly".
This is something they will fix 72h into the round.
They could just as easily with the same effort fix it now.

There is also a point you're missing here. This is the post signup, pre ticks phase. This is when people like me can look at the game and see what's bad and criticize it.

When else is this possible?
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Unread 6 Mar 2003, 19:42   #16
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Problem solved: Allow randoms to donate during protection. Don't allow private gals to do it.


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[BThere is also a point you're missing here. This is the post signup, pre ticks phase. This is when people like me can look at the game and see what's bad and criticize it.

When else is this possible? [/b]
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SYMM is right i doubt it will be solved for this round
Sally that is indeedy a Option , I bet if someone thought about it they could find a flaw with it though.
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