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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 18:39   #1
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Un-shitlist TDO.
unban sword.
unban everyone who isn't shit and australian.
unban the funny for christ's sake.
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 18:40   #2
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 18:41   #3
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 19:01   #4
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 19:03   #5
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Unban Sword. I don't care about my own account, but Sword hasn't done anything severly wrong.
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 19:17   #6
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Re: Bans
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Un-shitlist TDO.
The decision was taken on this by the admins.
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unban sword.
He isn't IP banned. His most recent account was banned for perfectly valid reasons.
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 19:27   #7
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 19:30   #8
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we didn't ban the funny
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 19:54   #9
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Re: Bans
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The decision was taken on this by the admins.
OK, but why precisely? Occasionally annoying and undoubtedly shit at times but Dace is still here
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He isn't IP banned. His most recent account was banned for perfectly valid reasons.
If those reasons were explained then fine, but they don't seem to be. Moon, rabbits, rabbits, moon...


edit: found reasoning but its the worst anything ever. That is NOT how to run an online community. If those piles of drivel harmed nobody and amused enough people WHY BAN?
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 19:58   #10
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OK, but why precisely? Occasionally annoying and undoubtedly shit at times but Dace is still here
At one point it must be noted that TDO declared war on the forums and has created in the region of 50 different accounts which have been banned. His various multitude of offences include spamming (three pages being the highest reached here), flaming, trolling, racism, porn links and generally diminishing any value left in the forums.

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If those reasons were explained then fine, but they don't seem to be. Moon, rabbits, rabbits, moon...

He was banned for persistently posting crap threads and making crap posts. In case you didn't notice we have a big ****-off thread stickied explaining this at the top of GD.
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 19:59   #11
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comedy 'see edit' option
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 20:06   #12
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edit: found reasoning but its the worst anything ever. That is NOT how to run an online community. If those piles of drivel harmed nobody and amused enough people WHY BAN?
Run your own god damn community then? It's a free* internet and all.


*) Free in this case does not mean without charge.
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 20:07   #13
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Run your own god damn community then? It's a free* internet and all.


*) Free in this case does not mean without charge.
BUT THIS ONE HAS MEMBERS




(insert comedy 'and other synonyms for the mod team' option)
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 20:08   #14
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edit: found reasoning but its the worst anything ever. That is NOT how to run an online community. If those piles of drivel harmed nobody and amused enough people WHY BAN?
That's a personal opinion. The mods were made mods precisely because we held these opinions. Otherwise we'd just have a deleting robot which we entered bad words and sentences into to make them prohibited.








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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 20:10   #15
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Re: Bans
yes it is a personal opinion.


has anyone been mentally scarred by 'there are no rabbits on the moon'?
have multiple people looked at it and thought something to the effect of 'comedy sword thread ahoy'?

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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 20:11   #16
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i haven't seen a thread that made me think 'comedy sword thread ahoy' in a while :\
he's not a monkey
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yes it is a personal opinion.


has anyone been mentally scarred by 'there are no rabbits on the moon'?
have multiple people looked at it and thought something to the effect of 'comedy sword thread ahoy'?

I haven't the faintest idea. However it was decided that this was another in the latest list of shit threads which contributed absolutely nothing to the boards from sword and as such it deserved a ban. If you want to appeal this then please message me or any of the other members of the forums team clearly stating your reasons as to why the ban should be overturned.
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i haven't seen a thread that made me think 'comedy sword thread ahoy' in a while :\
he's not a monkey
he's not a surface to air missle
he's not birmingham
and it wasn't funny
tangent: does the forum exist here for the enjoyment of the mods and those who share their opinions, or for the community as a whole? Because I'm sure there are more people on these boards who would be neutral or positive toward a random sword thread than those who would cry 'ban!'
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 20:18   #19
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 20:32   #22
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I'm sorry but that thread gave me countless (slightly exaggeration) minutes (more accurate) of amusement.
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 20:39   #23
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 20:46   #24
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Unfortunately flav, you're not a mod.

why should this be a factor? Clause 1 should be there as a fallback not as a way of life.
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why should this be a factor? Clause 1 should be there as a fallback not as a way of life.

Actually clause 1 is really the only rule (exception of porn links), the rest are general guidelines which recognise that it's difficult to tie down specific instances into overall categories.
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Actually clause 1 is really the only rule (exception of porn links), the rest are general guidelines which recognise that it's difficult to tie down specific instances into overall categories.

okay then. Deciding you don't like the style of the posts when they break no rules should not be standard procedure.
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okay then. Deciding you don't like the style of the posts when they break no rules should not be standard procedure.
That's not really up to you to deside tho, is it?
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okay then. Deciding you don't like the style of the posts when they break no rules should not be standard procedure.

Actually they did, consistently posting what is considered to be drivel is defined as spam.
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=crux of problem. mods decide what counts as spam and delete accordingly, even if most users don't consider it such.
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plus=crux of problem. mods decide what counts as spam and delete accordingly, even if most users don't consider it such.
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Was he warned at all before he was banned? And I don't mean 'but he was on previous accounts', I mean 'this time'
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Unread 10 Oct 2003, 23:07   #36
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Was he warned at all before he was banned? And I don't mean 'but he was on previous accounts', I mean 'this time'
As far as I know people never get warned. They just get banned without being told anything. Well that's what I've been told anyway.
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Not for things like general spamming or rudeness, there was always a warning just out of courtesy otherwise I'd have been banned by Mess a couple of times =)
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As far as I know people never get warned. They just get banned without being told anything. Well that's what I've been told anyway.
I think getting an account banned counts as a fairly obvious warning for the next you make.
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Not for things like general spamming or rudeness, there was always a warning just out of courtesy otherwise I'd have been banned by Mess a couple of times =)

Officially you used to get three warnings on your first account. After that it was considered that you had been warned enough times and any new accounts were banned without warnings being issued prior to that.







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Unread 11 Oct 2003, 08:23   #40
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At one point it must be noted that TDO declared war on the forums and has created in the region of 50 different accounts which have been banned. His various multitude of offences include spamming (three pages being the highest reached here), flaming, trolling, racism, porn links and generally diminishing any value left in the forums.


Actually that was me, and I reached more than 3 pages. And I didn't post porn links
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May I direct your attention to:
http://pirate.planetarion.com/showthread.php?t=170504


Apart from the cries of "BAN HIM! BAN HIM!" directed at me, I think you'll find sword wins support on a small but clear minority. Supposed 'regulars' W and Nod are much more pointless, much more often. And if Sword was banned just for posting things with no value to the 'advancement (lolz0rs)' of the boards, then why is meaple still unbanned? Every goddamn thing he posts is just about him being gay. I know this will never happen, but some consistency on behalf of the mods would be nice.
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I agree with the original post and every following post sympathising with Sword.
"Banning for not making enough successfull funny threads" is really the lamest thing I've ever heard.

Fk it.... why not ban me for never making successfull funny threads? Saves me a whole lot of time browsing this shit board.
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Unread 12 Oct 2003, 10:45   #45
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Unread 13 Oct 2003, 10:55   #46
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In this thread I asked you to Hear Me Out and while I wasnt banned within 2 seconds and my post deleted, I wasnt really allowed to get my point across. Maybe now I understand why by this post;

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At one point it must be noted that TDO declared war on the forums and has created in the region of 50 different accounts which have been banned. His various multitude of offences include spamming (three pages being the highest reached here), flaming, trolling, racism, porn links and generally diminishing any value left in the forums.
This is possibly the first time anyone has made any real effort to explain why I am banned. An how wrong you guys have it. Let me explain.

Since starting in Feb 2000 I have now admittedly had about a dozen accounts on these boards, but at the point of being banned I had just two (my first ever original nick and The Dark One) the rest came after as a result of mods continually deleting me and not exaplaining I was banned. When I was deleted first time I reregistered, at the time we had the 3 strikes and you are out rule and at no point was it stated that people were banned for anything other than porn and maybe racism, which I did not do ever. So I thought I'd just reregister an account that people knew was me and carry on as I had before, which was largely harmless fun stuff.

It is at this point I was systematically removed everytime any reference to The Dark One was made. And I wasnt ever told why.

I had to take this up with Spinner, I believed I was being victimised by the moderating staff having never recieved proper warnings in the first place and then never recieving an explanation of why people in charge were doing this to a customer who had been with PA since it began.

Even Spinner could not explain in detail why I was banned and yet failed to reverse any decision of the forum administration

At this point I told Spinner I was washing my hands of PA and would hope that one day it died.
But...
  • I did not ever declare war on the forums
  • I never had over 50 accounts
  • I have never spammed the board to the excess of 3 pages
  • I have never posted porn or racism

If you read further up you will see that Wallaby aka Gosteh has confessed to spamming to the tune of 3 pages and I am not Gosteh. Check and you will see a UK IP address and not an ozzy one.

It is my belief that you people have never really known who was me and who wasnt and as a result I am now banned through other people dirtying my name. Spinner once referred to me as 'the guy who shoots his mouth off in #Planetarion'. At the time I didnt even use IRC!! I only started reusing it to talk to Spinner about my forum problem.

I later discovered that somene else had registered the nickname TheDarkOne, a person who threatened me and told me (to brag) that he used the nick to shout abuse at people.

I remember at one point my original TheDarkOne account was hacked and reported to the mods who told me they knew who did it. Nothing more was ever done about it to my knowledge. If someone is capable of hacking my account surely it is not unreasonaly to suspect it happened again when I wasnt aware and *may* have been responsible for some of the posts that I would not otherwise have made?

I just want my The Dark One account back and taken off this shitlist as I never put it there in the first place. I still post daily in the same manner I always did and its pretty annoying having to skit around under different names just so I dont get removed because people in charge here are too pig headed to listen or cannot understand my situation.

Is anyone listening to me this time???

PS: Thank you Phang for raising the issue of me being on the shitlist.
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