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26 Mar 2003, 08:51
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[5th] Parallel Collapses - Could it have been avoided?
A galaxy whom shall remain coordless led a small but fatal break away and is now causing a massive amount of chaos around the 5th Parallel. As galaxy after galaxy now breaks away (perhaps to form a new alliance) and I see my gal status light up with shiny red colors that start at impossibly low ETA, I wonder if this could of been contained or avoided.
Perhaps a Parallel Alliance needs to have a more concentrated and operational command staff to enact retataliation against those who break the agreement. Seeing as tagged galaxy's are invading others right now, it seems wise that steps should of been taken to contain the crisis.
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26 Mar 2003, 09:19
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Re: [5th] Parallel Collapses - Could it have been avoided?
Couldn't have been avoided..
When the enemy is dead.. more targets are needed.
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26 Mar 2003, 10:36
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i think it started when weetnar broke that nap:P strange enough  i can tell you the gals that were attacked first hehe and i can tell you which did it 
but i can't see why you complain... as anyone with half a brain knew they'd do it...
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26 Mar 2003, 10:58
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lol...
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26 Mar 2003, 11:09
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Re: [5th] Parallel Collapses - Could it have been avoided?
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Originally posted by Makain
As galaxy after galaxy now breaks away (perhaps to form a new alliance) [...]
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The new p-alliance is up and running, they just haven't tagged yet.
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26 Mar 2003, 11:15
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Unfortunately as in most para situations the war could not be avoided...
When enemies decide to take to the battlefield NAPS are often lost & ignored...
Along with the any war come the casualties, in this case the neutrals & unknowns that beleive whole heartedly in the [5th] & have no real backing from any great alliance in the war...
Could the para HC have changed anything???
I doubt that very much...para command is regarded as an after thought by those "professional" players that commit themselves to the honour & valour of their alliances...
So in light of this, there was little or no chance for the para HC to control this...
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26 Mar 2003, 11:28
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Quote:
Originally posted by The IceQueen
So in light of this, there was little or no chance for the para HC to control this...
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Unless said para HC are in fact running the new parallel alliance. In which case they wouldn't have wanted to change it.
Oh the intrigue...
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26 Mar 2003, 12:03
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C/P alliances always collapse stfu
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26 Mar 2003, 12:08
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'omg n00b'
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26 Mar 2003, 12:21
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Why do people still talk about para and cluster alliances in the style of real wars? It sounds very RP to me.
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26 Mar 2003, 12:43
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heh. Please dont talk like your surprised by these events. It happens every round, especially where large clusters/parallels are involved. That coupled with the fact quite a few people now have -4 eta now and the reduced parallel travel time, the split in your p alliance certainly wont be the only one this round in the next week or so.
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26 Mar 2003, 14:52
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Ppl have been ignoring 5th since tick 200. Why do you post this now?
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26 Mar 2003, 16:24
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5th was just some fake ****e p-alliance, no big P5 gal payed any serious attention to the NAP's set forth in 5th....
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26 Mar 2003, 16:32
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Quote:
Originally posted by thomas4
5th was just some fake ****e p-alliance, no big P5 gal payed any serious attention to the NAP's set forth in 5th....
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Isn't that how all the P and C alliances in the past have worked ?
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26 Mar 2003, 16:36
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errr,
yup.
Thats why this is such a useless thread 
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26 Mar 2003, 16:44
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The 5th NAP is still tentatively there. There has been no real hostility between both sides from within parallel. There are some good reasons for this from both sides (lets assume the sides are VoM and WEETNAR).
However, when the enemy controls the parallel alliance you don't just sit back and let them kick your allies one by one. Thus why 5th stayed rather static. They were quite aware that the allied forces had grouped together. This is why out of para forces were brought in.
5th was a front, a public display of... nothing.
It was meaningless, just a tool for both sides in this conflict.
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26 Mar 2003, 16:49
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ahriman
Unless said para HC are in fact running the new parallel alliance. In which case they wouldn't have wanted to change it.
Oh the intrigue...
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They're not.
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26 Mar 2003, 17:00
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Quote:
Originally posted by Zh|l
The 5th NAP is still tentatively there. There has been no real hostility between both sides from within parallel. There are some good reasons for this from both sides (lets assume the sides are VoM and WEETNAR).
However, when the enemy controls the parallel alliance you don't just sit back and let them kick your allies one by one. Thus why 5th stayed rather static. They were quite aware that the allied forces had grouped together. This is why out of para forces were brought in.
5th was a front, a public display of... nothing.
It was meaningless, just a tool for both sides in this conflict.
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The 5th HC were to my knowledge members of Virus, 2 Olympians and a Vision member.
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26 Mar 2003, 17:06
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Quote:
Originally posted by Knight Theamion
The 5th HC were to my knowledge members of Virus, 2 Olympians and a Vision member.
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Yes. This supports my post.
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26 Mar 2003, 17:39
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No nothing could have been avoided. More of this is gonna happen as Nar / Weet desperatly is getting closer and closer to either no further gain outside mass initiating or splitting their block. The amount of targets they need grow as their score grows most will move outta their range. They have begun to stagnate themselves.
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26 Mar 2003, 17:41
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Quote:
Originally posted by Knight Theamion
The 5th HC were to my knowledge members of Virus, 2 Olympians and a Vision member.
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then you are wrong
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26 Mar 2003, 17:48
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Originally posted by Ap0k
then you are wrong
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the point was, that the HC consisted of members of VVOMM alliances
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26 Mar 2003, 18:00
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Quote:
Originally posted by Zh|l
The 5th NAP is still tentatively there. There has been no real hostility between both sides from within parallel.
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Speak for yourself....
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26 Mar 2003, 18:02
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Quote:
Originally posted by jornx
the point was, that the HC consisted of members of VVOMM alliances
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while the point may remain, his information is still wrong.
and there wasnt much resistance from the nar/weet chaps when it was all being set up iirc
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26 Mar 2003, 18:03
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I came in Round 7, I had this little naive hope Parallel Alliances were different. Anyway, everyone is dropping the tag, and joining the new one CME or something.
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26 Mar 2003, 19:06
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Quote:
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Speak for yourself....
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Didnt say there was none at all But the "main galaxies" havent seem that keen on doing what I thought they would do.
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26 Mar 2003, 19:13
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my gal has actually been commited to the nap... till we got hit from in p several times (and we were biggest in para)
and a para with that much narweet in it would never last anyways heh:P
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26 Mar 2003, 19:17
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ap0k
while the point may remain, his information is still wrong.
and there wasnt much resistance from the nar/weet chaps when it was all being set up iirc
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Why bother resisting? At the time VoM were in the ace card position. Alternative methods had to be established once VoM got their foot in the door for 5th.
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26 Mar 2003, 20:23
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5th
It prob didn't help Vvomm much that they hit their few allies in the p also, they kinda forced all over to new sides
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