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Unread 15 Mar 2003, 16:25   #1
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I was wondering - how do they know who the terrorists on each plane were? Did they just look for foreign-sounding names on the register?
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This article offers an interesting explanation, although its rather long.
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Unread 15 Mar 2003, 18:54   #5
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0.81818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181 8181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181 81818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181818181etc
According to my calendar, it was

1.22222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222 2222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222 22222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222etc.
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Unread 15 Mar 2003, 19:22   #6
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According to my calendar, it was

1.22222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222 2222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222 22222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222etc.
Not 0.000610805708256982619801210505858182020101060580820700760730745738
24199011605308456882669776222999611305458381920151035593314453884169
02659781220500860680770725748236992614803709256482869676272974623799
21150535843189516352934643789216502859681270475873174523849186517852
18501860181020600810705758231995113554333944139041590315953134543839
19151535343439391415403409406407907157532344938641790216003109556332etc.?
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Not 0.000610805708256982619801210505858182020101060580820700760730745738
24199011605308456882669776222999611305458381920151035593314453884169
02659781220500860680770725748236992614803709256482869676272974623799
21150535843189516352934643789216502859681270475873174523849186517852
18501860181020600810705758231995113554333944139041590315953134543839
19151535343439391415403409406407907157532344938641790216003109556332etc.?
11/9/2001 = 2001*11/9
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Unread 15 Mar 2003, 20:20   #8
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11/9/2001 = 2001*11/9
11/9/2001 &ne; 11/9/2001


Code:
     11
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      9       =  --------
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    2001


     11
------------     11 * 2001
      9       =  ---------
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    2001
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Unread 15 Mar 2003, 20:30   #9
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Indeed, / is generally defined as left-associative.
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Indeed, / is generally defined as left-associative.
Huh? WHat happened to BODMAS?

Brackets or Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction?
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Huh? WHat happened to BODMAS?

Brackets or Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction?

"/ is left associative" means that

5+5/4/3/2-3

would be calculated as

5 + (((5/4)/3)/2) - 3

Its not a statement about its precedence in relation to other operators.
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I was taught the O meant Over (as in "three plus four over five")
That's division; why would you need it twice?
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That's what i said when i was told the O meant over. I got no satisfactory answer.
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That's division; why would you need it twice?
It's the same operation, not the same syntax.
Over looks like this:
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I was told it was bIdmas and "I" was indicies (powers). But the same question remains.
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I was told it was bIdmas and "I" was indicies (powers). But the same question remains.
What same question?
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yeah it's (11/9)/2001 since by default all common operations are left to right.
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What same question?
The one MrL asked.
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The one MrL asked.
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That's division; why would you need it twice?
There's only one division in BIDMAS.
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Divison looks like this:
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I havent used that symbol in ages. I always use /.
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O could be "Order", but I dont see why they wouldnt use Indices or Exponents instead :/
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There's only one division in BIDMAS.
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You people can barely do simple addition.
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Yeah, isn't indices a form of multiplication/division anyway?
Only as much as multiplication is a form of addition. It has different precedence.
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You people can barely do simple addition.
Yes we can. 2 + 2 &asymp; 3.9999999987514293118


Anyway, to avoid potential confusion, I propose using something like
1 2 3 + 4 5 / 6 * * 7 8 9 - / + *
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Yes we can. 2 + 2 &asymp; 3.9999999987514293118


Anyway, to avoid potential confusion, I propose using something like
1 2 3 + 4 5 / 6 * * 7 8 9 - / + *
to represent
(1*(((2+3)*((4/5)*6))+(7/(8-9))))
, from now on.

I propose we all drink beer until those symbols make sense!
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$ dc
10 k 1 2 3 + 4 5 / 6 * * 7 8 9 - / + * p
17.0000000000

I prefer (* 1 (+ (* (+ 2 3) (* (/ 4 5) 6)) (/ 7 (- 8 9)))) myself.
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/ is more of a computer thing. Although I've seen it used when people were really short of space.
I'm lazy, as are all true mathematicians.

Why make a line and 2 dots when a line will do?
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I'm lazy, as are all true mathematicians.

Why make a line and 2 dots when a line will do?
Oh, no-one uses the primary school divide symbol. But diagonal is different from horizontal:
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Not
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Sometimes:
(x/4!)²
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Oh, no-one uses the primary school divide symbol. But diagonal is different from horizontal:
depends on the length of the things being divided.

for short things, it tends to be (x+2)/y for instance.
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isnt it BEDMAS?
brackets exponentials division multiplication addition subtraction
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I'm lazy, as are all true mathematicians.

Why make a line and 2 dots when a line will do?
Danish people think differently.

Why make a line and 2 dots, when 2 dots will do?

6:2=3
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