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Unread 18 Sep 2014, 14:26   #251
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TFs was pretty blatant ... you have a case on yours where someone hit a rain, then that rain retaliated and crashed ... with ships that arent even in our ship strat and with two people who are barely active enough to control their own planet much less multi/ship farm.
No, this planet sent his fleets at ChronoX and NoXiouS PT24, he was not accepted into my alliance at that time.
Because he farmed ships not within your ship strat? Good reason to disclaim the obvious!
I love how you guys are changing the story all the time.

And if TF was blatantly cheating, why was noone closed there either?
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No, this planet sent his fleets at ChronoX and NoXiouS PT24, he was not accepted into my alliance at that time.
So, what you're saying is, this was a one time occurrence, and in your book this is cheating? Because Detective Bitcher says so?
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So, what you're saying is, this was a one time event, and in your book this is cheating? Because Detective Bitcher says so?
Then why would he send fleets to die at two HCs at pt24?
And why would Your intel be updated With Our coords right after he had gone into the bot tkaing it out?
Why did the planet in question get closed?
ChronoX and NoXiouS were just unlucky
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Unread 18 Sep 2014, 16:33   #254
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Then why would he send fleets to die at two HCs at pt24?
How is that ChronoX's or NoXiouS' fault? Whether someone crashed at them purposely or not is not sufficient proof that they orchestrated the crash.

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Why did the planet in question get closed?
Wait, for real? Is this your "evidence"?
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Re: R58 gossip thread! bringing it to the level 10!

This thread is more about "how to improve PA" and "who is the cheater" than any alliance politics.
Jolly and all, but who's gonna win the round?
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Well given the way that Black Flag seem to have pasted them over the last two days probably not CT this time.
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How is that ChronoX's or NoXiouS' fault? Whether someone crashed at them purposely or not is not sufficient proof that they orchestrated the crash.



Wait, for real? Is this your "evidence"?
So you think that they were crashed on pt24 was a totaly random event?
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So you think that they were crashed on pt24 was a totaly random event?
You can't be crashed on at pt24 pal!
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You can't be crashed on at pt24 pal!
Your logic is of no use here humaaan.
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Can we get some talk about this round? Who's attacking who? Who has secret deals? Who's winning? What cowardly deals allowed them to do so? Why does carDi make rainman look like a smooth talker? Rainbows went to Hawaii I heard.
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Two BlackFlag HCs were caught ship farming this round.
And two planet of the winning gal last round was caught farmimg this round.

Its not a big issue, its widely common to cheat, and accepted in certain groups of this game.
Please stop sending your crash lemmings my way, people might think I'm ship farming.

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p.s. I haven't received any warning from MH, so I guess there was a flaw in your 'evidence'.

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Why you gotta be so rudeeeee?
What did I ever do to you? You must be confused with Clouds... he's the one you hate, right?!
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Unread 19 Sep 2014, 18:36   #262
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Maybe you could, like, make a list of your bestest besties and your worst frenemies. It'll be just like highschool.
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Re: R58 gossip thread! bringing it to the level 10!

So I heard some people got closed.
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So I heard some people got closed.
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Re: R58 gossip thread! bringing it to the level 10!

A couple of pals in 1:3 figured out how to abuse the game to double their stock...won't go into more detail incase PA team hasn't fixed the issue. Not like we all didn't expect it from the people in that gal ;-)
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A couple of pals in 1:3 figured out how to abuse the game to double their stock...won't go into more detail incase PA team hasn't fixed the issue. Not like we all didn't expect it from the people in that gal ;-)
How is finding a glitch, cheating?
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How is finding a glitch, cheating?
I assume the appropriate word here is 'abusing' rather than cheating.
I don't know what this issue is, but i can image MH's have considered taking away the gained profits rather than closing all together.
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How is finding a glitch, cheating?
Finding a glitch: "Woah, look what I just did! I should probably report this." /join #multihunters
Cheating: "Woah, look what I just did! Let's do it a couple more times for different planets." *conspicuous lack of joining #multihunters*
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If one person did it once and reported it then it's fine...but telling your pals and doing it multiple times and not saying anything = cheating
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Is this "feature" something new?
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How is finding a glitch, cheating?
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If I was to grade your trolling attempt I'd give it a C-
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If I was to grade your trolling attempt I'd give it a C-
Please try harder next time
Finding a glitch is not cheating, which is what we're discussing. What you're referring to is called abusing.

Maybe you should study the dictionary next time before trying to troll on the interwebz.
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Finding a glitch is not cheating, which is what we're discussing. What you're referring to is called abusing.

Maybe you should study the dictionary next time before trying to troll on the interwebz.
You're the one that mentioned only "finding a glitch", the comment you were replying to was "abuse the game to double their stock...won't go into more detail incase PA team hasn't fixed the issue." which implies that they used (abused) the glitch.

Troll better.
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(Against my better judgement...)

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Finding a glitch is not cheating, which is what we're discussing. What you're referring to is called abusing.

Maybe you should study the dictionary next time before trying to troll on the interwebz.
In your endless quest to imagine yourself as inhabiting a universe that is devoid of any facts or figures that might in some small way disprove or disagree with your preconceived notions and opinions, you appear to have glossed over my post, wherein I make it quite clear that in fact the line between 'finding a bug' and 'cheating' was intentionally and deliberately crossed. Might I therefore suggest that you familiarize yourself with the vital details of this case before undoubtedly continuing to spew forth an endless ****ing dribble of bullshit?
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If one person did it once and reported it then it's fine...but telling your pals and doing it multiple times and not saying anything = cheating
Cheating and abusing is a big part of this game.
ArmAgeddon was allowed to use farm planets this round, even though the clear proofs was given to the MHs he has remained open.
Two BF HCs were caught fleet farming earlier this round, they have remained open aswell.
If 1:3 get closed for doing something illegale i think its about time we get a new MH team.
If you are gonna let one cheat, you must let everyone else do it aswell

I think the only way we can save PA is to find ways to hinder those that arnt cheating to play the game.
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Re: R58 gossip thread! bringing it to the level 10!

Cheating would be easy, fleetfarming/roidfarming/rezfarming (in rounds with rez stealers) would be as simple as your "caught fleetfarming" accusations (this is the internet, I know, but your only proof was and still is a freaking IP from the same country). Getting private servers, using proxies, using VPNs... there are multiple ways of creating multiple accounts and using them as you please. Heck, if I ever felt the need to get a cousin army, I could easily do it myself and I've got a handful of former PA players as IRL friends that wouldn't probably mind too much about handling half a dozen cousins that only init roids and crash ships. Could even put them in a tag, call them "NoX-haters" and only crash ships on people with "nox" in their nick. I would then have to personally "war" them all round and profit. And with my little experience in running virtual servers, proxies (still am running a few proxies for people that have their internet focked for some reason), even remote control and client/server code, I could do that in such a way that you wouldn't ever prove it was me, even if you "knew" and I would do it so.

MHs would need a rule that allows them to act with less "actual evidence", but that would (it already focking is [people like to accuse me of things it seems]) put the burden of proof on the suspect and not the accuser like it should be.
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hex ran a scan planet off a proxy for every round it played. Whole hc team had access, no one ever closed it. Cheating is too easy on the internet
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Cheating and abusing is a big part of this game.
ArmAgeddon was allowed to use farm planets this round, even though the clear proofs was given to the MHs he has remained open.
Two BF HCs were caught fleet farming earlier this round, they have remained open aswell.
If 1:3 get closed for doing something illegale i think its about time we get a new MH team.
If you are gonna let one cheat, you must let everyone else do it aswell

I think the only way we can save PA is to find ways to hinder those that arnt cheating to play the game.
Once again you are throwing accusations with no actual evidence (re: Two BF HCs in particular) pls stop.
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Once again you are throwing accusations with no actual evidence (re: Two BF HCs in particular) pls stop.
He is semiright on one point atleast tho!
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Once again you are throwing accusations with no actual evidence (re: Two BF HCs in particular) pls stop.
NoXious just said that he can cheat, and get away with it, and that he got the knowledge and resources to do it.
Same with ArmAgeddon farming Mark_ with only pods.
Mark_ initiated roids and deleted the def calls and told people to recall def that was sent.
Its no proofs at all that would clasify it as cheating.


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Re: R58 gossip thread! bringing it to the level 10!

Let's be honest here, people cheat because this game gets depressing every round.

I don't know why certain people were closed in 1:3, but I heard it had something to do with taking advantage with a bug/glitch. I do not consider this method as cheating because it's the game itself that developed the fault, and a certain minority of the playerbase were just taking advantage of this bug/glitch.
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Let's be honest here, people cheat because this game gets depressing every round.

I don't know why certain people were closed in 1:3, but I heard it had something to do with taking advantage with a bug/glitch. I do not consider this method as cheating because it's the game itself that developed the fault, and a certain minority of the playerbase were just taking advantage of this bug/glitch.
How would you rate it verus the Korsan's gal incident?
(im not playing but I'm curious to how bad is it)
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Let's be honest here, people cheat because this game gets depressing every round.

I don't know why certain people were closed in 1:3, but I heard it had something to do with taking advantage with a bug/glitch. I do not consider this method as cheating because it's the game itself that developed the fault, and a certain minority of the playerbase were just taking advantage of this bug/glitch.
Dav should be banned from PA, ive said it before, and yet again he is the spotlight for being a naughty boy.
I think PA team should hand the victory to 1:2, they are the only gal so far not being caught systematicly cheating.
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I think PA team should hand the victory to 1:2, they are the only gal so far not being caught systematicly cheating.
I haven't seen any speculation of 5:2 cheating?
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Dav should be banned from PA, ive said it before, and yet again he is the spotlight for being a naughty boy.
I think PA team should hand the victory to 1:2, they are the only gal so far not being caught systematicly cheating.
80+ galaxies have been cheating???

How about a crazy idea. Remove bug/glitch, remove gains made from bug/glitch, dry the tears from butchers eyes and carry on.

Why do you have so much Dav hate?? Cardi and Hunter cheat every round, I don't see you screaming for there removal, is it cos they would troll you all over the forums and in-game???
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80+ galaxies have been cheating???

How about a crazy idea. Remove bug/glitch, remove gains made from bug/glitch, dry the tears from butchers eyes and carry on.

Why do you have so much Dav hate?? Cardi and Hunter cheat every round, I don't see you screaming for there removal, is it cos they would troll you all over the forums and in-game???

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I haven't seen any speculation of 5:2 cheating?
You have, we just discussed it in #rainbows the other day.
[19:24] <@B-Butch3r> Clouds that dosnt look liek cheating either?
[19:25] <Clouds> oh, Arma is a renowned cheater
[19:25] <Clouds> I can concur with that
[19:25] <CX|McFarmer> something is fishy there B-Butch3r!
[19:27] <Yama> smell like rotten fish to me
[19:27] <Yama> smells even
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NoXious just said that he can cheat, and get away with it, and that he got the knowledge and resources to do it.
Same with ArmAgeddon farming Mark_ with only pods.
Mark_ initiated roids and deleted the def calls and told people to recall def that was sent.
Its no proofs at all that would clasify it as cheating.


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yes, I did say that I could cheat and get away with it most likely, I still haven't tried. Back in the early rounds we did have shared access to each others accounts with 2-3 IRL friends; for emergency purposes, but even then I didn't ever log in to one of those accounts... and can't remember mine should have needed logging in to either. I rather pointed it out just to show how ****en easy it is You can keep adding tears to the sea BB, but I still haven't cheated, had a multi or anything along those lines and I am not planning to do so, unless I'd need to prove a point some day (maybe to get a proper MH team or so, or just to show you how it's actually done). Having the means does not mean there's a need of doing. I'd probably have the means to DDOS PA out of the internet every night I get incs as well and I still ain't doing so.

I hate the cheaters as well, but I hate these false accusations possibly even more. We even had a nice chat about this

As of ArmAgeddon and Mark_, did you report it? I haven't got a single sign of any proof so I couldn't, but if I did, I would have...
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I recall Mark quitting TGV one round because dav defended him where Mark asked him to recall (farming), and he got so furious about it (Dav refusing to pull defence), that he emoquit the tag.
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This is why we need Assassin as Head Multihunter, He didn't give a flying xxxx to who he closed back in the day
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Re: R58 gossip thread! bringing it to the level 10!

So.

Been on field exercise for 14 days, lost 1300 roids, and Now the enornous active playerbase of this splendid browser game, yaps about cheating ?

Fill me in, what happened?
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Been on field exercise for 14 days, lost 1300 roids, and Now the enornous active playerbase of this splendid browser game, yaps about cheating ?

Fill me in, what happened?
Fat Camp??
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Dav should be banned from PA, ive said it before, and yet again he is the spotlight for being a naughty boy.
I think PA team should hand the victory to 1:2, they are the only gal so far not being caught systematicly cheating.
I like this idea ... Considering our gals a man down and filled with 'easy' tgts im happy with what we have done.
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Fat Camp??
Hah, yea something like that.

Anyway found out it was two planets in my own gal that got closed. Shocker....

I guess its inevitable, i'm looking forward to gal incomming stats. Eor.
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Dav should be banned from PA, ive said it before, and yet again he is the spotlight for being a naughty boy.
I think PA team should hand the victory to 1:2, they are the only gal so far not being caught systematicly cheating.
You do realise mikee is in 1.2...and your previous posts alluded to him cheating also (letting 1.3 xp land on him due to the cluster nap) 1.3 guys were closed for exploiting a bug. The did fancy nerd things to get 50m donations. If some of you want to defend that kind of play, then us normals can only so much as to call you all douches and move on. To hear that Clouds and Chronox cheated, only sweentens the fact that they led blackflag to a glorious defeat

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You do realise mikee is in 1.2...and your previous posts alluded to him cheating also (letting 1.3 xp land on him due to the cluster nap) 1.3 guys were closed for exploiting a bug. The did fancy nerd things to get 50m donations. If some of you want to defend that kind of play, then us normals can only so much as to call you all douches and move on. To hear that Clouds and Chronox cheated, only sweentens the fact that they led blackflag to a glorious defeat

There is always next round prerain.
Aha, why didnt Mikee and 1:3 get closed earlier?
Its more and more Clear to me that Ace must be getting paid by these top gals
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Aha, why didnt Mikee and 1:3 get closed earlier?
Its more and more Clear to me that Ace must be getting paid by these top gals
nah, Ace doesn't do jack shit... It's basicly Appocomaster calling those shots also from what i've gathered.
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The did fancy nerd things to get 50m donations. If some of you want to defend that kind of play, then us normals can only so much as to call you all douches and move on.

There is always next round prerain.
pal please, that kind of play comes with a price, one could argue that 3 fleets for in gal def is better. than a 50 mill gal fund donation now and then. but i guess you did an extensive research on the topic prior to your post right?

oh wait, you didn't, well keep hatin' then you're doing a good job already
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