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Unread 19 Jun 2006, 18:06   #51
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

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it still puzzles me why Malouda isn't in the first 11. brilliant player. and if i were coaching Brazil, Juninho would always start too.
Malouda started yesterday, replacing Ribery who has been a sensation in France but struggled against the Swiss.

Who would Juninho replace? Or would you play 4-2-3-1, and take out Ronaldo??
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

Ronaldo had improved a little bit and i would like to know what the **** happened to Ronaldinho, in the game you could see that when he wants to he could through the AUS player pretty easy, but instead he kept passing the ball. Brazil always suck in the early games, i hope they start to improve for the next ones!
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

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Who would Juninho replace? Or would you play 4-2-3-1, and take out Ronaldo??
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roberto carlos out, ronaldo out, juninho in, gilberto in.
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gilberto taking roberto carlos' place, kaka more to the center instead of the right where's pushed at now, adriano up front, ronaldinho at the left, juninho taking his place on midfield.
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Ronaldo had improved a little bit and i would like to know what the **** happened to Ronaldinho, in the game you could see that when he wants to he could through the AUS player pretty easy, but instead he kept passing the ball. Brazil always suck in the early games, i hope they start to improve for the next ones!

To give an idea of how much even non-brazilans are suprised by ronaldinho before their first game gary linekar basically said he was a one good world cup performance away from being classed alongside pele/maradona. At that stage i agreed with him, when playing at his normal level he is unstopable but hes just been absent, kaka and adriano have really stood up and taken the slack.

Credit to tunisia they nearly pulled it off, spain's class showed towards the end.

btw for anyone watching the bbc coverage, am i the only one to think martin oneil has 'issues' he seems determined to disagree with or rub up those sitting alongside. Has he got some sort of problem with marcel desailly? everytime desailly ventured an opinion oneil seemed determined to counter it regardless of what it was, they don't seem to appear on screen together anymore and now alan hansen and him seem to be sniping at each other. Is he especially pissed over the england job?
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

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kaka and adriano have really stood up and taken the slack.
The only slack adriano has picked up has been off the elastic in ronaldo's shorts as he slowly loses that weight.
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The only slack adriano has picked up has been off the elastic in ronaldo's shorts as he slowly loses that weight.

i thought he was good!
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

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i thought he was good!
I'm going to assume you were watching the game in an alternate universe.






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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

Fact is both strikers for Brazil look like dead weight and in fact, it might be worth more effort in sticking another runner in midfield to make space for ronaldo by pulling away markers than persisting in the current mentality of the brazilian team which ends up with Kaka and Ronaldinho getting horribly bogged down 2/3 of the way up the pitch.
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

Oshi!

The Germans turned up
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

They're looking good, we'd better not lose to Sweden later tonight - facing Germany on home soil would not be my cup of tea.
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

Those BBC viewer-voting player ratings are really taking the piss sometimes.

Which side is 3-0 up again?
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

your second link needs an h in http://


Poland just scored against Costa Rica to make it 2-1, if it stays that way I get an X \o/
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

Wow, that was an easy win for Germany, I really wonder what was up with the Ecuador players. Now we can sit back and watch what England has to show.
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Wow, that was an easy win for Germany, I really wonder what was up with the Ecuador players. Now we can sit back and watch what England has to show.
Wasn't that kind of the 'b-'-team with such a lot of changes? anyway great game, especially by Klose
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this is all goig to plan this is all going windefuly wonerfully to plan peter couvh will save us \o/
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

so drop crouch, and 442 go with 451?

neville* ferdinand** terry cole

lennon beckham lampard gerrard cole

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btw in sweden's second goal was hargreaves meant to be doing something in the box?
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Owen is done for the rest of the tournament rendering the 4 strikers decision hilarious, especially since one of them is Theo Walcott, who has yet to play a minute for england at the WC. Lack of faith, anyone?

Beckham doesnt have a clue how to play Right midfield on that showing and his crossing and delivery was truly woeful - the only reason hes an asset to the team.

Owen Hargreaves looked ok till the second half collapse, and in particular when he lost larsson for the goal, naive naive naive play around a world class striker.

Joe Cole put so much into the first 45 minutes that we was pretty ineffective in the second half - apart from his cross. Yet again he didnt use ashley cole on the overlap even once.

Frank Lampard has had an APPALLING group stage. Seriously. If england stick with 4-4-2, Lampard has to go - you cant stick with misfiring players for this long, its simply not feasible - no other country would.



In conclusion

a/ Unless England build their team around Gerrard, they are ****ed. Stop accomodating lampard when he seems to be a waste of space.

b/ LARSSON \o/ LARSSON \o/ LARSSON

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Henrik Larsson is the King of Kings!


Also if any newspaper editor is reading this can they please make their backpage headline for tomorrow "Shitty England are really shit"?
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

Sorry I can't hear you over all the overreacting the rest of the England fans will be doing.
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

The first half looked rather good, but suddenly in the 2nd it all stoped. Sweden played horrible in the first half but became pretty good in the 2nd. both teams have yet to show that they can play 90 minutes of good football. England was lucky to get only 1 swedish goal at the beginning of the first half, what was Backham doing there?
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

a draw was deserved.
England weren't that bad.

Roll on Ecuador.
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Lampard is shite.

That is all.
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apparently it'll be 4-1-4-1 from now on, with hargreaves in the holding role, owen out for the season?
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a draw was deserved.
England weren't that bad.

Roll on Ecuador.
Good first half, a good goal although a bit surprising the goalie didn't get it, a goal more wouldn't have been undeserved though..

but Sweden not winning still was robbery, they did have the biggest chances and totally owned the second half.. shouldn't have substituted Allbäck
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You were surprised that the goalie didn't save Cole's goal?

It was a herculean effort to get as close to saving it as he did.

He was hardly badly positioned before the shot.
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a draw was deserved.
England weren't that bad.

Roll on Ecuador.

And on Michael Owen, he's only twisted his knee. Okay it looked fairly violent but im pretty sure he'l be back within 3months around start of the season time.

and im pretty sure the formation will go something like this:

Robinson
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Becks Lamps Gerrard Joe Cole
Rooon***


*Carragher in if Neville doesnt make Ecuador either which i doubt he will now.
**Campbell if they decide not to risk rushing rio back from a groin strain. Bit of a blow as Rio has arguably been the best player in the England team so far consistently.
***Rooney up front, Crouch coming on later in the game if its all gone pete tong.
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on the replay his entire knee looked like it had buckled, i think hes completely torn the ligament and will be out for most of the season.
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

Says its a twisted knee on bbc.co.uk/sport
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

'twisted knee' being the clinical diagnosis.

He's ****ed, gone, forget about him.

Likely badly damaged the medial collateral ligament by that fall.

He'll be extremely lucky to be back in 3 months (he's shit at recovering from injuries)

Call up Defoe before the school kid gets to play
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

I long for 4-1-4-1 with rooney up front when england finally have to stop playing long ball tactics
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...nd/5100516.stm

Turns out it's the old anterior cruciate knee ligament. Could miss most of next season now.
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I nearly vomited when it happened

Freddy 'that'll make him feel better' Shepherd

apparently the FA compensation isn't enough, and the insurance that newcastle additionally took isn't enough (which doesn't on first sight make much sense...).

He says he'll be back to collect his world cup winner medal, i doubt he'll have to bother

btw the argentinian 'b' squad was better than the dutch 'b' squad but lacking any decent finishers, boring game but made argentina more scary.

ive made nesta my fantasy league captain, if the italians **** this up i will not be happy, hopefully they'lll beat the czechs and usa can beat ghana to get to the second round. If they do end up meeting brazil id honestly give them a chance, considering brazils performance to date especially against australia.
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Adriano's my fantasy league captain, he's an absolute tank who's going to rampage through those lithe Japanese defenders.
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Japan are winning and i nearly soiled myself.
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Japan are winning and i nearly soiled myself.
Someone I know put a £5 bet on in the 44th minute on it being a draw at half time (33-1). Brazil scored a minute or so later.
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lol hes been dropped lol.

Japan playing well, 1-1 was a fair half time score.

Mon the socceroos though \o/
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I think the Japanese goalkeeper had his eyes closed for the second goal.
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

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lol hes been dropped lol.
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I hoped that Brazil would play their full team in an effort to get some confidence in the players. They didn't.

A Robinho/Adriano front-line would be awesome, little and large creating havoc. Ronaldo might have scored, but he's just out of place when he doesn't have the ball at his feet and plenty of time on the ball.
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

graham poll graham poll what a referee!

chances of graham poll reffing international matches again


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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

well done aussies, i tuned in after brazil were certain to win, what a bloody finish, welcome to the world cup.



edit for those of you who have the chance of watching the aussie croatia highlights do!
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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

Harry Kewell comes good in big game.

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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

Its official now, almost everyone hates the italians, when did this happen?. Ok the corruption thing raised my eyebrows but didn't overly concern me but suddenly the combination of that, their plebness and something i can't put my hands on almost everyone i come across has it in for them. Did their kit dissapoint?!?!
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juninho in, gilberto in.

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Re: [football] General world cup antics!

That gilberto couldn't defend to save his life. That said I'd support bringing in juninho if it meant ronaldinho played in the centre, he got so much more of the ball and they looked far better for it.
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