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2 Oct 2009, 14:11
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how come evo is bigger than asc now?
what's going on there?
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2 Oct 2009, 15:03
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Fightin-irish for life
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
Common sense (they are not fighting any wars)+ basic understanding of the game (finishing the attacking 101class ) = your answer
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2 Oct 2009, 15:58
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Bolivian Alpaca
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
fatter != bigger
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2 Oct 2009, 16:01
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Paso Leaute
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
http://www.sandmans.co.uk/?p=compare...k=&type=values
Look at the comparison; war between App and Asc starts at about tick 540 they both level out and evo after a slight delay climbs rapidly.
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2 Oct 2009, 17:37
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
Of course the addition of 15 new planets from destiny replacing our inactives/dead weight, did help slightly in making us look a lot "fatter" than we are..
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2 Oct 2009, 17:41
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Paso Leaute
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
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Originally Posted by VenoX
Of course the addition of 15 new planets from destiny replacing our inactives/dead weight, did help slightly in making us look a lot "fatter" than we are..
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U have a large number of ppl who dont contribute their full score to the counted score.
And thats the otherwise rather shocking surge around tick 650 ofc
Since I cant tell would u care to say what ur real score would be?
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2 Oct 2009, 17:45
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
We use ingame tools primarily that don't count "Actual Score" (afaik?). But I imagine it's a lot closer to Asc/App's than we are right now.
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2 Oct 2009, 17:59
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Paso Leaute
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
I had worked that much out
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2 Oct 2009, 18:00
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The Video Guy
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
Seems almost pedantic to ask then tbh.
Hi Everyone!
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2 Oct 2009, 18:01
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Poblacht na hÉireann
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Venox
We use ingame tools primarily that don't count "Actual Score" (afaik?). But I imagine it's a lot closer to Asc/App's than we are right now.
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You could tot it up manually or perhaps copy paste the member list into a spreadsheet, sort by the appropriate field and sum the highest 60.
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2 Oct 2009, 18:01
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
I wouldn´t know any place in the ingame ally tools to look up total "real score". However, you could put in a little effort and roughly add up your members manually.
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2 Oct 2009, 18:07
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Fightin-irish for life
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
Members page in ally section tells how much each player contributes dunno if it gives a total for that column though
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3 Oct 2009, 14:08
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by VenoX
We use ingame tools primarily that don't count "Actual Score" (afaik?). But I imagine it's a lot closer to Asc/App's than we are right now.
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Do you guys run Munin? According to our intel your top60 have 20m more score than the counting score shown in PA. Obviously Ascendancy and Apprime both have more than their counting score too, but not that much.
I do find it slightly ironic that the counting score mechanism, which was implemented after two rounds of alliances hiding and rotating their members between tags (one of which was Ascendancy), is now holding newer alliances behind the more established ones.
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3 Oct 2009, 15:50
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Over the moon
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
Evo are good at gal raiding, good for them!
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3 Oct 2009, 17:44
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
gal raiding is good.
its makes you fat!
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3 Oct 2009, 17:57
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Fightin-irish for life
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
But it has a downside as well , complacency . anyone can gal raid but it's holding on to them when war comes thats a lot harder
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3 Oct 2009, 18:07
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Retired
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
not all allainces want war, some of us.. just want to gal raid and stay neutral
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3 Oct 2009, 18:09
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
Can we have your roids please?
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3 Oct 2009, 19:57
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Fightin-irish for life
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
asking is always nicer than taking
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3 Oct 2009, 20:15
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
you can try to take them
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3 Oct 2009, 21:25
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
Fine, I´ll come back to you
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4 Oct 2009, 17:21
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
i dont think evo will be able to keep onto there roids now they are stuck in a hole!
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4 Oct 2009, 18:17
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
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Originally Posted by add100
i dont think evo will be able to keep onto there roids now they are stuck in a hole!
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They didn't really lose that much, only Asc are benefitting from it and the alliances attacking them have very little gains.
Vision for example were growing very fast when they were attacking other alliances on their own.
Apprime +2.0%
Evolution -3.0%
P3nguins -4.0% (wtf?)
Vision +1.6%
NewDawn +0.6%
DLR +1.0%
Thats pretty crappy growth all round imo.
Ascendancy have played the politics perfect this round.
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4 Oct 2009, 18:43
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
WHAT in the immediate frig??
Could it be because we own? did you think about that??
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4 Oct 2009, 19:21
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mz.
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
Because they're largely irrelevant.
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4 Oct 2009, 19:51
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
Because they're largely irrelevant.
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Is that why you napped them?
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4 Oct 2009, 20:21
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
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Originally Posted by tetrac
Is that why you napped them?
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We're consolidating our position, Evolution aren't being hit by us when they have Apprime (who have more or less given up on us) to deal with. Mainly because Apprime feel they're owed help or something. I'm sure Apprime really thought of that when they wanted to work with Ascendancy to take down some alliances and quite probably, Evolution (although I have no specific details of that). Obviously we had other priorities (them) and did no such thing. But to get back to the point, it's mutually beneficial.
You talk about us 'playing politics' really well, but for the most part we've done the simple thing of not pissing off people we didn't need to piss off. We haven't won yet so going into some uber analysis of where this round was won and lost is unnecessary.
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4 Oct 2009, 20:56
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mz.
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
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Originally Posted by tetrac
Is that why you napped them?
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I am/was not in favour of napping Evo. So, no.
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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4 Oct 2009, 23:37
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
its funny evo napped app to get galwin! wonder what they were doing the whole round anyway.
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4 Oct 2009, 23:46
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
sorry,i had some things wrong. the summary is that evo didnt nap app. but that 10:1 in general did. so we can roid the rest of evo for the round! fun fun fun
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4 Oct 2009, 23:58
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
ai. new update: 8:2 evo are in vac mode! next gal please
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5 Oct 2009, 00:23
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Poblacht na hÉireann
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
Hey theking, what happened your peacekeepers man? I could swear you had more a few days ago.
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5 Oct 2009, 00:27
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
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ai. new update: 8:2 evo are in vac mode! next gal please
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I heared you advised Evo to drop the NAP or they would die? Wonder if you´re the right one to say such things, given the recent events :P
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5 Oct 2009, 00:28
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
hhe achi! suicide ftw! 800k remember! you're right! who cares about rank! right i prolly **** up what i was telling anyway
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5 Oct 2009, 18:53
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If not never; then once.
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
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Originally Posted by VampiriA
not all allainces want war, some of us.. just want to gal raid and stay neutral
you can try to take them
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I guess you showed them!! 8 2, power!! Seriously though, what was the logic in vacation mode?
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5 Oct 2009, 19:43
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
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Originally Posted by tetrac
They didn't really lose that much, only Asc are benefitting from it and the alliances attacking them have very little gains.
Vision for example were growing very fast when they were attacking other alliances on their own.
Apprime +2.0%
Evolution -3.0%
P3nguins -4.0% (wtf?)
Vision +1.6%
NewDawn +0.6%
DLR +1.0%
Thats pretty crappy growth all round imo.
Ascendancy have played the politics perfect this round.
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Probably had somthing to do with the target (evo gal) new they were going to be hit and went into vacation mode?
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5 Oct 2009, 20:03
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
please reese, don't give judgment, if you dunno what is really going on..
ok?
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5 Oct 2009, 20:07
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
My mistake: we're all tremendous fags
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5 Oct 2009, 20:24
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If not never; then once.
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
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Originally Posted by VampiriA
please reese, don't give judgment, if you dunno what is really going on..
ok?
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okay so u explained it on irc.. I guess I understand your reasoning...
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5 Oct 2009, 20:38
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
evo wanted to put 10k roids out of commision for 3 days last i heard
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5 Oct 2009, 21:19
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King of EMO
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reese
I guess you showed them!! 8 2, power!! Seriously though, what was the logic in vacation mode?
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If you'd only have a clue on whats going on atm...
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5 Oct 2009, 22:23
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mz.
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
If you want to explain it to us, feel free. Otherwise, don't post.
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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6 Oct 2009, 12:31
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Fightin-irish for life
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
So are the rumours that 1.10 asked for and got a nap from apprime true ? going vac mode only delays the inevitable or are you hoping they forget to attack you ?
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7 Oct 2009, 15:14
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
there is nothing happening.
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7 Oct 2009, 18:19
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
apart from us getting roids!
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8 Oct 2009, 01:11
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
how come evo is smaller than asc now?
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8 Oct 2009, 10:00
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
Cause we ordered penis-enlargment pills over the internet.
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8 Oct 2009, 10:42
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Seraphim
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
They were all sold out, so they sent us these weird air pumps instead. Whattayaknow?
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8 Oct 2009, 14:23
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h3ll's angels
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Re: how come evo is bigger than asc now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Machado
They were all sold out, so they sent us these weird air pumps instead. Whattayaknow?
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