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Unread 6 Mar 2003, 13:31   #1
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Unread 6 Mar 2003, 13:39   #2
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You have no mp3s then?
Only the ones I own on CD

and they werem't dloaded, they were ripped from the retail CDs for my i-Pod
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Unread 6 Mar 2003, 15:59   #10
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He didn't get done for piracy though. He got done for importing restricted items.

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and they werem't dloaded, they were ripped from the retail CDs for my i-Pod
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Unread 6 Mar 2003, 16:22   #13
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They mainly got him for profiting on selling mod chips for the Xbox, and thus promoting piracy afaik.

$500k and 5 years> in prison hurts tho..
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They mainly got him for profiting on selling mod chips for the Xbox, and thus promoting piracy afaik.
I'm not sure how "promoting piracy" can be a crime really. Of course he was busted under the DMCA because of the nature of the devices he was selling.
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Unread 7 Mar 2003, 17:41   #16
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I'm not sure how "promoting piracy" can be a crime really. Of course he was busted under the DMCA because of the nature of the devices he was selling.
Possibly because part of the purpose of the DMCA is pushing the possibility of prosecuting people for promoting piracy?
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I'm not sure how "promoting piracy" can be a crime really. Of course he was busted under the DMCA because of the nature of the devices he was selling.
It's in the twilight zone really. It's like selling devices for taking drugs, meanwhile your saying: "I'm not going to tell you that you can smoke cannabis with this device and get really stoned, nor will I tell you that the man down on the corner has some fabulous 'pot' at great prices".

In any case, he has plead guilty. His rights are quite possibly badly violated, but he has accepted it and probably made a lousy deal with a clever prosecutor.

Edit: Corrected a few spelling erros at Zed's request.

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Possibly because part of the purpose of the DMCA is pushing the possibility of prosecuting people for promoting piracy?
It's probably more helpful to distinguish between enabling and promoting. I don't see the legal justification for criminalising "promoting" (in advocating sense of the word) something. Is advocating a crime in America a crime?

I can see though the legal thinking behind prosecuting someone who enabled a crime to occur. But yeah, you're quite right on the DMCA.

Oh, and on this case the guy is obviously an unfortunate idiot. If you're going to run the most prominent/famous piracy site in the world, you gotta keep really clean. Anything else is asking for trouble.
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I don't see how enabling a crime to occur can be illegal. Do we prosecute knife manufacturers if someone is stabbed? Or gun manufacturers when someone is shot? Or car manufacturers when someone is killed by a drunk driver? The only person who should be in trouble is the person who actually committed the crime.
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The only person who should be in trouble is the person who actually committed the crime.
I think the argument is possibly (similar to the gun laws one) is that while guns, knives, cars, etc aren't sold with the intention of the owner committing a crime. Mod chips (I suppose) are...

Not that I agree with any of this of course, but that's the US Senate for you. There's plenty of DMCA related links in the Slashdot archives so if you're interested, you can probably get the whole rationale for it.
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