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Unread 16 Jul 2005, 01:16   #1
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Just a question for our American friends...

Would like to clear something up here. Is it true, that it is an arrestable offence, if you are not able to produce ID, when asked to do so (by cops police etc) in the street? I know this is not a requirement in the UK. Driving licences here can be required to be produced within a week . What`s the situation in the US out of interest?
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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

You may be old but it doesnt excuse you from using google!
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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

No. You can't be arrested for failing to show identification to a police officer on request.

You are not required to carry identification unless you are driving a vehicle.

If you are driving a vehicle and do not have your driver's licesne you have committed an additonal crime but even that doesn't usually result in your being taken into custody.

In the US, unless a peace officer has reasonable suspicion that you are committing a crime or are about to commit a crime, if he approaches you and asks you to identify yourself, you can tell him to **** offf. This is not the best course of conduct however as some peace officers are extremely creative in coming up with justification.

Cases even say that if you run from the police they have to have more than that to arrest you.
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Unread 16 Jul 2005, 07:13   #5
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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

Cheers Dace for neg repping me.....
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Unread 16 Jul 2005, 07:55   #6
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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

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You are not required to carry identification unless you are driving a vehicle.
Even in that case, I've heard that you have 24 hours to produce your license.
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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

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Hi Genius Boy.

I didn't neg rep you in the first place.

CRAZY thought i know but people can leave other people's names when they leave a comment.

For great justice i have just neg repped you tho.

You doss ****!
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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

In Canada, whenever I would go driving and say "oh yeah, I left my licence back at the house", everyone would be all "OH NOES!!" and would worry terribly.

Then there was the time I was stopped for speeding (85 in a 60 zone) and the police officer let me off cos I was Scottish.
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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

"peace officer" ???
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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

why do you have to carry identification whilst driving?
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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

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why do you have to carry identification whilst driving?
your driving license, to show you can drive, to show you aren't commiting a pretty serious crime?


It's not exactly a hard one
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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

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I didn't neg rep you in the first place.

CRAZY thought i know but people can leave other people's names when they leave a comment.

For great justice i have just neg repped you tho.

You doss ****!
I posrepped this post for even greater justice.
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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

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your driving license, to show you can drive, to show you aren't commiting a pretty serious crime?


It's not exactly a hard one
You have 7 days to produce your licence and insurance details, in which time you can do a runner.
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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

State of California
Vehicle Code Section 12951

You have to carry it at any time you are operating a vehicle.
If you don't have it with you and you get stopped for something they will cite you for this violation but...
"Any charge under this subdivision shall be dismessed when the person charged produces in court a driver's license duly issued to that person and valid at the time of his or her arrest*"

*in this context arrest does not necessarily mean being taken into custody

As to "peace officer", in the US there are a lot of different agencies with police powers. There are police officers, deputies, rangers, patrolmen, inspectors, investigators, special agents, agents all of these and more are covered under the blanket term "peace officer."

My wife is an ivestigator.
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I bet you watch from behind a two-way mirror as she gets ****ed by other men.
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Like so?
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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

I still dont get how you people can up with all those really brilliant names for all kind of things.
Peace officer makes me think of department of peace. Even better is Department of Homeland Security. It would pretty much exactly translate into 'Ministerium für Staatssicherheit' in german (those were the people in the GDR who literally hired half of the country to spy on the other half). Ofc, the news here dont do that. The names for all those little military campaigns in iraq were also pretty great.
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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

There is no such thing as a spade in American Politics.

"The Patriot Act"
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Re: Just a question for our American friends...

just tell the cops your fukll name etc and they can look it up on the computer in thier car
california law is ****ed, btw
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