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Unread 10 Mar 2006, 22:25   #151
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

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On another note, I never found it too odd that the stats were very xp friendly this round, as jester wasnt really in a position to win or be in an alliance trying to win. Seems i was wrong?

Coincidence?
If he's been planning it all along then he's managed to fool everyone, including me
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

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Seeing as the original intent with Ascendancy was to just hang around, be inactive, launch a few fleets - see what happens - this is more of a freak accident than anything else?
freak accident that you didnt add 8 of your biggest planets to the tag?
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Unread 10 Mar 2006, 22:26   #153
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

well this game is completely f***ed , when PA crew eliminates XP and you actually have to fight to win, It may be ok, I'll be damned if I pay for this rediculous crap again. Nice that the alliance creator also created the stats....and ofcourse he had no idea it would turn out like this....

freak accident my ass
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Unread 10 Mar 2006, 22:27   #154
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

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On another note, I never found it too odd that the stats were very xp friendly this round, as jester wasnt really in a position to win or be in an alliance trying to win. Seems i was wrong?
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Unread 10 Mar 2006, 22:28   #155
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Seeing as the original intent with Ascendancy was to just hang around, be inactive, launch a few fleets - see what happens - this is more of a freak accident than anything else?
Well, did we do anything else in the end? I cannot remember spending more than 45 minutes looking for three targets a day and then check in at work to see max xp or total fleet crash. And of course the casual chit-chat hour every now and then. I guess lots of people could enjoy playing this way.
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

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If he's been planning it all along then he's managed to fool everyone, including me
I'm afraid that hidden set of stats with 50,000 armour for leviathans that only ascendancy get to use is going to come out sooner or later rob
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

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On another note, I never found it too odd that the stats were very xp friendly this round, as jester wasnt really in a position to win or be in an alliance trying to win. Seems i was wrong?

Coincidence?
So are you saying jester is bad or that everybody else is stupid for not adapting to the stats?

I dont like these stats nor this playstyle, but thats a personal preference. They adapted, they might win.
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Unread 10 Mar 2006, 22:28   #158
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

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freak accident that you didnt add 8 of your biggest planets to the tag?
More like a freak accident that we would actually win.

Our aim was to finish higher than f-crew!!!!
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

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So are you saying jester is bad or that everybody else is stupid for not adapting to the stats?

I dont like these stats nor this playstyle, but thats a personal preference. They adapted, they might win.
Everyone else is stupid for not adapting. you are talking to the guy who left his previous alliance because they wouldnt xp whore this round.

They adapted why? Did jester create the stats as part of his plan to get an xp whore alliance to #1? his xp whore alliance?

Whatever was the case, Jester shouldnt ever be allowed near the stats again.
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More like a freak accident that we would actually win.

Our aim was to finish higher than f-crew!!!!
Was that our aim before or after we set "finish higher than angels"?
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Unread 10 Mar 2006, 22:32   #162
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so why did you choose not to add all the members?
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Was that our aim before or after we set "finish higher than angels"?
I didn´t expect Angels to last a round.
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

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Everyone else is stupid for not adapting. you are talking to the guy who left his previous alliance because they wouldnt xp whore this round.

They adapted why? Did jester create the stats as part of his plan to get an xp whore alliance to #1? his xp whore alliance?

Whatever was the case, Jester shouldnt ever be allowed near the stats again.
I offer you a deal: We keep Jester away from the stats and you away from these boards. Everyone had the same chance to spot the exploit. Actually it took us until pt 50 or so when bwtmc and me spotted the "ziks cannot harm ter pods" flaw. I could still kick jester in the nuts for not telling us.
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

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I offer you a deal: We keep Jester away from the stats and you away from these boards. Everyone had the same chance to spot the exploit. Actually it took us until pt 50 or so when bwtmc and me spotted the "ziks cannot harm ter pods" flaw. I could still kick jester in the nuts for not telling us.
You forgot to mention Asc was supposed to be an inactives only alliance which turned out to be exactly like it (and that it was founded AFTER stats were finished afaik)
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This is not the case, at all. Jester made absolutly no comments to anyone about the stats. I had a 5 minute squint at the formula and the stats, then told everyone in #linux to XP whore to **** with Terran. It's so ****ing transparent, everyone that didn't see it must have had their eyes shoved up their arse.
you just insulted 2581 players with 1 post

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I offer you a deal: We keep Jester away from the stats and you away from these boards. Everyone had the same chance to spot the exploit. Actually it took us until pt 50 or so when bwtmc and me spotted the "ziks cannot harm ter pods" flaw. I could still kick jester in the nuts for not telling us.
I can remember jester and lok discussing going cath/xan and teaming up for attacks. Poor old lokken even went xan in the end
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

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Whatever was the case, Jester shouldnt ever be allowed near the stats again.
I agree, he said I should play Cat*


*(lies, never spoke about it to him, do play Cat though *cries*)
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

Well done Ascendancy.

I hope this does the game a favour - it's highlighting how ridiculous the XP situation is. We all knew it needed fixing - this just confirms it. I hope PA team realise this for next round
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

yes well done to Ascendancy for a hollow win, i bet your all wanking in the corner now.

i really do hope XP in Rd17 will be gone or at least sorted out
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

I demand PA crew to show total value on the universe alliances page
I guess there's nothing more to say other than: pwnd
Good job guys. Thank god this was a free round, else i'd be pissed :P
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I'm supprised you didn't wait untill the second last tick, now that would have been a sickener.

Those people who didn't see it coming.....lol
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Those people who didn't see it coming.....lol

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i dont think its possible to anymore, i believe theres been a time period at the end of the round where alliances cannot recruit anyone to suddenly appear at #1 hours before the game ends
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i dont think its possible to anymore, i believe theres been a time period at the end of the round where alliances cannot recruit anyone to suddenly appear at #1 hours before the game ends
only counted for merging - recruiting was always possible afaik.
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yes well done to Ascendancy for a hollow win, i bet your all wanking in the corner now.

i really do hope XP in Rd17 will be gone or at least sorted out
Why is the win hollow ?

And we are actually having a good laugh at some of the posts made so far
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

Just a little sidenote, which is totally offtopic, how come caths sucks every time jester makes the stats? Do you really hate caths that bad?
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People just didn't use the race properly. (this time)
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And another thing that strikes me is, you knew that nobody could hurt you guys, since you are all XP.. But still you didnt add 8 of your largest players before late in the round, how come?
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twas 8 of the largest?

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And we are actually having a good laugh at some of the posts made so far
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Good job, jester

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ive seen this thread and i can honestly say you guys complain too much.
To me Ascendany is the perfect example of a well stuctured alliance that obviously cooperated extremely well. GO ASCENDANCY!
that they are on top doest mean they were well organized and stuff! I bet it was more BG than anything else this rnd as this Round was no real Alliance Round anyways. it was kinda designed for Solo-Raids (cheers Dav)!

defence was pretty much worthless!so I guess Ascendancy are just a bunch of players who knew how to play this rnd! XP + Low Value+ 3fleeting 4tw!

If 1up would have been BG style this rnd we had seen a nice battle^^

To the Creators if they read it:

Absolut Boring this Rnd! No real Wars, No Blocks, No Alliance Needed, No Fun!

P.S: Congratz to Ascendancy for winning this rnd,well done *applauds*
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

OK, I am starting to get unhappy with this thread as a moderator, so I shall issue my first warning with regards to this thread.

I am not happy with any of the lauding up by any of the ascendancy members on this thread, as quite frankly, taking the situation as a whole, it's pretty close to trolling in my view so while I'm unsure as to whether any rules have been broken as of yet, consider this a friendly warning. If you want to give informative posts, provide interesting points of discussion on the topic then as ever, you are all most welcome.

But I will not tolerate posts by anyone that are going to start an all out flame war, however hilarious it may sound for the neutral.
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Right, I am off.

If I see any shitness, it'll be highly likely you won't have an account in the morning for a time. Usually I don't take this step, but as this is such an inflammatory thread, it's the only way it can be left unattended.

If you come and complain, you can't say you weren't warned.
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And another thing that strikes me is, you knew that nobody could hurt you guys, since you are all XP.. But still you didnt add 8 of your largest players before late in the round, how come?
It is true that some of the planets were large, but they wernt the 8 largest. I for one was already added to the tag. People were added and kicked to try to take focus away from us as the other allainces battled it out, putting htem in a weaker position. Wasn't really needed but still overall worked out better to show our true score later rather than sooner.
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People just didn't use the race properly. (this time)
I think most people played the style pa was founded on realizing to late that something was amiss.

I also dont know why there have been numerous rounds were one race has more dominent ship stats than other races.

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This is not the case, at all. Jester made absolutly no comments to anyone about the stats. I had a 5 minute squint at the formula and the stats, then told everyone in #linux to XP whore to **** with Terran. It's so ****ing transparent, everyone that didn't see it must have had their eyes shoved up their arse.
So you speak for Jester now? And you know for 100% that Jester "made absolutly no comments to anyone about the stats" Given the fact that he is in the alliance that used these stats to all their potential is a bit to incriminating, so forgive me if I just dont believe you.

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Jester: Hmm ive just finished the stats and have made terrans the ultimate xp whores. If I only had an alliance we could win this round with no work....
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It is true that some of the planets were large, but they wernt the 8 largest. I for one was already added to the tag. People were added and kicked to try to take focus away from us as the other allainces battled it out, putting htem in a weaker position. Wasn't really needed but still overall worked out better to show our true score later rather than sooner.
You make it sound like Ascedancy actually did something this round. You did nothing. You aren't fit enough to even have a tag.
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Re: Ascendancy - winners of Round 16?

This is a sad day for PA.

PA needs more than "a little tweaking of the stats" or a "a slight change in the XP formula".

Thanks _A LOT_ to Ascendancy for pushing it into the PA Team's face so blatently. If they don't realize now that this needs deeper changes, PA will go down.

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So you speak for Jester now? And you know for 100% that Jester "made absolutly no comments to anyone about the stats" Given the fact that he is in the alliance that used these stats to all their potential is a bit to incriminating, so forgive me if I just dont believe you.

Well, he did ask me about the stats he was making. He asked alot of people about the stats he was making. We actualy had a beta to test the stats. SHOCKER!!!! Not only äszendäry was able to play that beta.......

Besides that, me having some "secret" stats-intel, i still picked Zik and played the "old" way.
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Well, he did ask me about the stats he was making. He asked alot of people about the stats he was making. We actualy had a beta to test the stats. SHOCKER!!!! Not only äszendäry was able to play that beta.......!
He made comments, he didnt make comments, im getting confused?
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We all play by the stats that's given ?
Congrats to none yet, round is not over yet
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