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Unread 6 Apr 2005, 22:50   #1
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Re: "a good, commonsense, anti-crime issue".
sweet jesus above
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Re: "a good, commonsense, anti-crime issue".
bloody hell...
that can't be serious?
I'm gonna stay well away from Florida!
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Unread 6 Apr 2005, 23:11   #6
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Re: "a good, commonsense, anti-crime issue".
Its hardly a shock that it happened in the good ol' U.S of A is it really?
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Re: "a good, commonsense, anti-crime issue".
I like that last paragraph about British Law

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The Home Office suggests either making a noise or staying quiet*










*Obviously i made some adjustments to the quote for comedy purposes, but it's just the kind of advice you'd expect from the government
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Re: "a good, commonsense, anti-crime issue".
Heres a little betting tip for ya, Jeb Bush to be the next USA president.
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Unread 7 Apr 2005, 00:13   #9
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Re: "a good, commonsense, anti-crime issue".
Maybe you shouldn't go round threatening people?
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Re: "a good, commonsense, anti-crime issue".
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Maybe you shouldn't go round threatening people?
two words to explain why this is such a terrifyingly bad idea:

traffic accidents
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Re: "a good, commonsense, anti-crime issue".
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two words to explain why this is such a terrifyingly bad idea:

traffic accidents
I don't think you should threaten people after traffic accidents either...unless you meant something else.
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Re: "a good, commonsense, anti-crime issue".
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Exclamation Re: "a good, commonsense, anti-crime issue".
Whenever some state proposes liberalizing their gun control laws the local papers are invariably full of predictions of 'shootouts on every street corner.'

After the laws are changed the shootouts never seem to materialize (Minnesota went through this a few years ago when the state passed a concealed-carry law).

I didn't know foreign newspapers joined in this hysteria.
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Whenever some state proposes liberalizing their gun control laws the local papers are invariably full of predictions of 'shootouts on every street corner.'

After the laws are changed the shootouts never seem to materialize (Minnesota went through this a few years ago when the state passed a concealed-carry law).

I didn't know foreign newspapers joined in this hysteria.
Indeed... those Californian dudes are so relaxed... catchin' waves all day... nice weather... good vibes...
WHAT THE HELL CAN GO WRONG?!
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Re: "a good, commonsense, anti-crime issue".
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Well I look forward to the ensuing court cases where Dante gets proven empirically wrong over and over again as the bodies pile up. Of course if it does bring peace and prosperity to Florida I shall gracefully concede.
Empirically wrong about what?

If I made a claim this will make Florida a lot safer then I'm sure you could prove me wrong eventually (although any comparison would be difficult as crime shifts are affected by a zillion different factors anyway). But I've never made that claim, certainly not in this thread but not ever.

To be proven wrong you have to make a claim. And I've made no claim. So I'm confused.

But yeah this is unlikely to make Florida more "peaceful". And yes, if peace is your only criteria then this might be termed a failure. But some people consider justice as well as peace.

To put this in terms that are easier to understand : Two guys break into your home. For the sake of argument we'll say they were going to kill you, and that you are the only occupant. You have a firearm and you shoot and kill both of them.

Now, let's assume there were two scenario's :
1. The occupier could have been killed (1 death)
2. The assailants could have been killed (2 deaths)

Now, if we are judging on some sort of utilitarian / pure-peace grounds, option #2 is much worse than #1 as it's an additional death, right? But that totally ignores any notion of justice I'm sure we all agree.
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To put this in terms that are easier to understand : Two guys break into your home. For the sake of argument we'll say they were going to kill you, and that you are the only occupant. You have a firearm and you shoot and kill both of them.
This bill has nothing to do with 'in your own home' though.
This is if you feel threatened on the street.
EDIT - having reread I see that wasn't your point. never mind.

I think we should test the strength of the law by shooting George Bush in Florida and say we felt threatened by him.
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Re: "a good, commonsense, anti-crime issue".
wonder what counts as threatened?
'he looked at me funny' ?
'he looked kinda funny'?
'he looked at me and i felt funny'?

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Oh ****.

im going to find you and kill you if you even so much as say 'hello' when you see me.

ill be scared you see.
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Re: "a good, commonsense, anti-crime issue".
I'll be able to kill you first, as you've threatened me OVER THE INTERNET, which must count for something.
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Re: "a good, commonsense, anti-crime issue".
almost "unbelievable"
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People in America in 'Shooting the shit out of each other' MONDO SHOCKAR!
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Re: "a good, commonsense, anti-crime issue".
Quote:
Originally Posted by madi
'he looked at me and i felt funny'?
I have that effect on women.

...SHIT, DON'T SHOOT!
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I feel threatened by Tomkat's monkey.
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