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Unread 9 Aug 2005, 05:45   #1
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Stupid Exception

Fleet 1: You cannot cooperate with other planets in your exception (limit reached). Orders cancelled. [7]

Fleet 1: New mission ordered.
Fleet 3: You cannot cooperate with other planets in your exception (limit reached). Orders cancelled. [7]

duhh .. wtf this mean . i cant even def my own galmates .... pa team said it was a bug but they fixed it .. really ???

i send 2 def ingal .. 1 recall and i resend def to others .. but they limited me ?? why ??

[12:48] <B|nTaRa> fixed it
[12:48] <B|nTaRa> or delete it
[12:48] <Phil^> im not pateam, so cant do either
[12:48] <Phil^> and if this was the previous round i remind you, without this system you'd have been running a fine line for being closed interaction back then was strictly forbidden
[12:49] <B|nTaRa> what interaction ?
[12:49] <B|nTaRa> my exception mate is in another gal
[12:49] <Phil^> defending ingal with planets in same gal
[12:49] <B|nTaRa> im sending def to my galmates
[12:49] <Phil^> aah its a differnet gal hes in
[12:49] <B|nTaRa> while im in malaysia
[12:49] <Phil^> hm then that is a bug
[12:49] <Phil^> ( you should be more clear in that post btw )
[12:49] <B|nTaRa> my galmates in italy and norway

[12:51] <B|nTaRa>
[12:52] <Phil^> your friend with who you have an exception, he isnt defending or attacking the gal mate in question is he?
[12:53] <B|nTaRa> nope
[12:53] <B|nTaRa> he`s offline atm

[12:54] <Anarchy> wtf are 'exceptions'?
[12:54] <Anarchy> and from looking at that thread, the word was used completely wrong
[12:55] <Phil^> they're hard-coded limits built into the game which define what people on the same ip can and cannot do
[12:55] <Phil^> people on the same ip without one get closed quite quickly
[12:56] <Phil^> they work between the planets who sign up for one, and each has a special id to identify it
[12:56] <Phil^> how on earth the thing isnt working right - i have no idea. it should be very simple. if planet exception ids match and limits are reached - reject order
[12:56] <Phil^> else accept
[12:56] <Phil^> since he isnt interacting with the other planet on the exception it shouldnt be triggering
[12:57] <B|nTaRa> yup
[12:57] <Phil^> unless his friend has a prelaunched fleet going there, thats the only thing i can think of
[12:57] <B|nTaRa> thats the main problem ph8
[12:57] <Anarchy> ah ok then
[12:57] <B|nTaRa> nope
[12:57] <Phil^> other then that - theres no reason for it
[12:57] <B|nTaRa> i can guarantee my mate not even prelaunch


now PA team .. expain to me why i cant def my own galmates !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Unread 9 Aug 2005, 07:59   #2
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Re: Stupid Exception

pm me your coords or email them to me and i'll take a look - my guess would be the same as phil's though, but i can look up which limit it is thats triggering etc and what events have been logged of that type so far etc.
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Unread 9 Aug 2005, 08:09   #3
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Re: Stupid Exception

Exceptions are useless. I know of a person who has two accs(yes im sure) but when reporting, I just got told the two accounts has an exception...

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Re: Stupid Exception

So what? The exception system is very harsh so he's not benefitting much from having two accounts anyway.

The only real benefit I can think of is to have one as a dedicated scan planet and the other as your real account. If you're willing to pay a credit for that privilege then be my guest
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Re: Stupid Exception

Put that in the rules, and I probably really WOULD pay double to have a dedicated scan planet.
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Re: Stupid Exception

Go for it, I don't see anything in the rules stopping you.
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Re: Stupid Exception

its a bug .. and lotsa ppl complaining .. i did complain befoe .. pa team said .. the has been fixed .. but this problem still happen .. im tired of it .. bcoz of this bug and stupid exception .. i cant def my galmates
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Re: Stupid Exception

did u by any chance allready have a fleet of your own defending in gal when u attempted to send the new fleet that was denied?

or were u doing multiple launch recalls in gal?
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Re: Stupid Exception

Why oh why do people moan in one place, and if they don't get an immediate satisfactory solution moan here? Seriously Bintara, At least give them a chance to deal with it before you moan here, at least go to someone in an official capacity. Spare us the whinging and visit #support.
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Re: Stupid Exception

Bashar .. i already done that mate .. yes i send 2 def fleets .. 1 recall and i resend back to other galmates.. but this bug stopping me becoz im interacting with my exceptions mate ..
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Re: Stupid Exception

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Bashar .. i already done that mate .. yes i send 2 def fleets .. 1 recall and i resend back to other galmates.. but this bug stopping me becoz im interacting with my exceptions mate ..
Sorry. did I miss something here? didn't he just answer his own complaint? O_o

interacting with his exceptions mate etc? /me goes to re-read this lot
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Bashar .. i already done that mate .. yes i send 2 def fleets .. 1 recall and i resend back to other galmates.. but this bug stopping me becoz im interacting with my exceptions mate ..
?!?!??

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Re: Stupid Exception

I think i have worked out the problem:

when you give a launch order, it looks up the user ids in your excpetion and checks to see if there are any fleets from them involved etc. I expect its not ignoring the persons own userid. i'll go have a look at the code and get this added to the todo list.
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So basically, he's interacting with himself?

Sounds a bit dirty
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i'll go have a look at the code and get this added to the todo list.
Kal, can this please be fast-tracked? I have already lost someone else to exception system bugs. People are being punished for their honesty, and it's getting to me. Bintara isn't the only one.
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hmm i just tried to verify this (i'm in an exception) and it lets me interact with myself fine, clearly something else is the problem
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Exceptions are useless. I know of a person who has two accs(yes im sure) but when reporting, I just got told the two accounts has an exception...

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eception bug has been fixed .. thanks to the Multihunter and otehr PA team .. grats
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eception bug has been fixed .. thanks to the Multihunter and otehr PA team .. grats
... i hope that doesnt mean the players had to live 14 days with that confirmed bug ...
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