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19 Jul 2003, 14:43
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Americas Terrorism Information Awareness System
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,56620,00.html
official website: http://www.darpa.mil/iao/TIASystems.htm
Its actually going through congress.
Ok, does anyone else think this is another step towards a 'big brother' state?
Not only that but it will never totally work.
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Suppose that the system could become 99% accurate, correctly identifying future terrorists as terrorists 99% of the time, and harmless people as harmless 99% of the time. That might sound like a fairly reasonable deal, until you do the maths.
If there are 1,000 future terrorists, say, in a population of 300m (roughly equivalent to that of the US), the 99%-accurate system will catch 990 of them. But it will also wrongly identify as terrorists 1% of the harmless people, which is 1% of 300m, or 2,999,990.
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It's frightening to think that the massive majority of people this system will single out will be completely innocent.
Results from search on google, check out some more articles on it if you like.
Does anyone actually see past the massive problems this brings up and see it actually being useful to the population of the US?
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19 Jul 2003, 14:51
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Congress Killed its funding.
Wont go far without cash.
I think they specifically forbade the Military and Intel folks from spending *any* of their budget on the project.
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19 Jul 2003, 14:53
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Originally posted by plasmas_arms
Congress Killed its funding.
Wont go far without cash.
I think they specifically forbade the Military and Intel folks from spending *any* of their budget on the project.
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Phew.
Where did you get that information from? Or am I just behind the times...
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19 Jul 2003, 14:57
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Originally posted by Ste
Phew.
Where did you get that information from? Or am I just behind the times...
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Oh I think I read it on bbc news yesterday.
Id go hunting for it but Im low on time here
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19 Jul 2003, 15:10
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Ah found it:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3076849.stm
It is not specific though but I think that its funding has been cut totally rather than just reduced.
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19 Jul 2003, 15:17
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But the Senate vote to unanimously forbid the Defense Department from spending any of its $369 billion budget on the TIA programme, despite assurances from the Pentagon that it would protect the privacy of citizens.
A plea from the Bush administration calling on the Senate to back the project also fell on deaf ears.
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Hmm...
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19 Jul 2003, 16:33
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Re: Americas Terrorism Information Awareness System
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Originally posted by Ste
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TIA is old news, you also forgot to mention Poindexter (the man in charge of it) and his corrupt history. If you're gonna do the tinfoil hat thing you should do it properly at least
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19 Jul 2003, 16:37
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Re: Re: Americas Terrorism Information Awareness System
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Originally posted by Gayle29uk
TIA is old news, you also forgot to mention Poindexter (the man in charge of it) and his corrupt history. If you're gonna do the tinfoil hat thing you should do it properly at least
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Only found out about it today
*sigh*
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19 Jul 2003, 16:52
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19 Jul 2003, 18:26
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WHY DID YOU PUSH GRANDMA
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The best part was when they changed the name from "Total Information Awareness" to "Terrorist Information Awareness".
I think the first one was more accurate.
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19 Jul 2003, 18:42
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Re: Re: Americas Terrorism Information Awareness System
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Originally posted by Gayle29uk
TIA is old news
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I'm surprised you didn't mention GIA.
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19 Jul 2003, 23:20
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Re: Re: Re: Americas Terrorism Information Awareness System
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Originally posted by queball
I'm surprised you didn't mention GIA.
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Forgot all about that site
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20 Jul 2003, 00:32
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Look over there!
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We just have Private Eye :/
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20 Jul 2003, 08:57
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I think it would be cool. 1984 comes to life. I'm not hiding anything. Let's take a good look at what people are doing in the privacy of their own home.
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