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Unread 30 Jan 2003, 08:25   #1
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Keyboards

I've been used to manipulating my own Microsof(er) keyboard, and this one's a fine Finnish model \o/. Thus, because many people fail to write my nick correctly around here, or fail to write ü, I've been wondering, what kind of keyboards you turds around there use? Does every little country have a different keyboard?

Mine's got å, ö, and ä as normal letters on it - so I can obviously type them without seeking an ascii key for it. In addition, I've got this nice button with ^ ~ and ¨ in it, wich allows me to manipulate letters like ñ and õ, and even ü.

Is there something my dear wireless has missed, or is this all crap in Finnish keyboards just extra?
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Main keys:
`1234567890-=
qwertyuiop[]\
asdfghjkl;'
zxcvbnm,./
Shift:
~!@#$%^&*()_+
QWERTYUIOP{}|
ASDFGHJKL:"
ZXCVBNM<>?

Esc, F1 through 12, Print screen, Scroll lock, Pause/break, insert, Home, page up, page down, Delete, End, Tab, Shift, Capslock, Control, Alt, Number lock, and a couple of Winows shortcut keys for start window and page box, plus Cd controlsd, volume, messages, phone, TV, Radio and sleep buttons.
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A normal US 104-key keyboard. No fancy ASCII characters.

Under windows ME I could type the " or '-character followed by any vowel, and it would place the two dots above it automatically.
Win2k fails to do this.
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Unread 30 Jan 2003, 08:42   #5
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Main keys:
`1234567890-=
qwertyuiop[]\
asdfghjkl;'
zxcvbnm,./
Shift:
~!@#$%^&*()_+
QWERTYUIOP{}|
ASDFGHJKL:"
ZXCVBNM<>?

Esc, F1 through 12, Print screen, Scroll lock, Pause/break, insert, Home, page up, page down, Delete, End, Tab, Shift, Capslock, Control, Alt, Number lock, and a couple of Winows shortcut keys for start window and page box, plus Cd controlsd, volume, messages, phone, TV, Radio and sleep buttons.
No ascii characters
Main
§1234567890+´qwertyuiopå¨asdfghjklöä'<zxcvbnm,.-

Shift
½!"#¤%&/()=?`QWERTYUIOPÅ^ASDFGHJKLÖÄ*>ZXCVBNM;:_

Alt (I can get sum more stuff with alt + main)
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Esc, same F´s, Print, Scroll, Pause/brea, the same stuff as you do, no cd control etc, nor volume, messages or phone.

Then there's the arrowpad (obviously you got one too) and the numpad. Then, as I said, I can double some main keys for stuff like ü and õ.

Dunno, I only lack the speshal cd- etc phone turd controlling centers. I do have zounds of windows crap here, but it's all in vain to me.
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Unread 30 Jan 2003, 08:44   #6
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mine are

`1234567890-=
qwertyuiop[]
asdfghjkl;'#
zxcvbnm,./
\

with shif on
¬!"£$%^&*()_+
QWERTYUIOP{}
ASDFGHJKL:@~
ZXCVBNM<>?|

and becoz its a laptop and a smaller keyboard i have a key called Fn to give me a 3rd set of things i can do with 1 key and they are as follow

`123456789*-=
qwerty456-[]
asdfgh123+'#
zxcvbn0,./
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Weird keyboards you got. Odd lines you can draw.
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`1234567890-=
qwertyuiop[]
asdfghjkl;'
\zxcvbnm,./

shift:

!"£$%^&*()_+
QWERTYUIOP{}
ASDFGHJKL:@~
|ZXCVBNM<>?


then i have what i like to call 'pot luck' because i dont know how to use it

its just alt then a bunch of letters on the number pad
example:

alt + 147 = ô
alt + 159 = ƒ
alt + 0191 = ¿
alt + 753 = ±


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we can all do ß (alt + 4321), aka do alt + numpad to get ascii keys I think.
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Some keyboards have 'turbo'. What does that do? I know you can lock the keyboard by pressing turbo and F11, but besides that all I've noticed is that in makes the backspace key smaller?


I have a bog standard no make keyboard.
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`1234567890-=
qwertyuiop[]
asdfghjkl;'
\zxcvbnm,./

shift:

!"£$%^&*()_+
QWERTYUIOP{}
ASDFGHJKL:@~
|ZXCVBNM<>?
and Ctrl + Alt:

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I have a US english keyboard, not a fancy swedish one

What I want is a Icelandic keyboard. Those are ace
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Mine has a ****ing annoying hibernate button which I keep accidently ****ing hitting at the worst ****ing times, interrupting my ****ing downloads and **** like that*.



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After&nbsp;pressing&nbsp;Control+Shift+1:

Regular:
`1234567890-=
qwertyuiop[]
asdfghjkl;'\
\zxcvbnm,./

Shift:
~!@#$%^&amp;*()_+
QWERTYUIOP{}
ASDFGHJKL:"|
|ZXCVBNM<>?


After&nbsp;pressing&nbsp;Control+Shift+2:

Regular:&nbsp;(´&nbsp;¨&nbsp;combines)
½1234567890+´
qwertyuiopå¨
asdfghjklæø'
<zxcvbnm,.-

Shift:&nbsp;(`&nbsp;^&nbsp;combines)
§!"#¤%&amp;/()=?`
QWERTYUIOPÅ^
>ZXCVBNM;:_

Alt&nbsp;Gr:&nbsp;(~&nbsp;combines)
@£$€{[]}|
€~



After&nbsp;pressing&nbsp;Control+Shift+3:

Regular:&nbsp;(΄&nbsp;combines)
`1234567890-=
;ςερτυθιοπ[]
ασδφγηξκλ΄'\
<ζχψωβνμ,./

Shift:&nbsp;(΅&nbsp;¨&nbsp;combines)
~!@#$%^&amp;*()_+
:΅ΕΡΤΥΘΙΟΠ{}
ΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛ¨"|
>ΖΧΨΩΒΝΜ<>?

Alt&nbsp;Gr:&nbsp;(΅&nbsp;combines)
²³£§¶¤¦°±½
€®¥«»
΅¬
©


After&nbsp;pressing&nbsp;Control+Shift+4:

Regular:
ё1234567890-=
йцукенгшщзхъ
фывапролджэ\
\ячсмитьбю.

Shift:
Ё!"№;%:?*()_+
ЙЦУКЕНГШЩЗХЪ
ФЫВАПРОЛДЖЭ/
/ЯЧСМИТЬБЮ,


After&nbsp;pressing&nbsp;Control+Shift+5:

Regular:
*ذ&nbsp;1&nbsp;2&nbsp;3&nbsp;4&nbsp;5&nbsp;6&nbsp;7&nbsp;8&nbsp;9&nbsp;0&nbsp;-&nbsp;=‬
*ض&nbsp;ص&nbsp;ث&nbsp;ق&nbsp;ف&nbsp;غ&nbsp;ع&nbsp;ه&nbsp;خ&nbsp;ح&nbsp;ج&nbsp;د‬
*ش&nbsp;س&nbsp;ي&nbsp;ب&nbsp;ل&nbsp;ا&nbsp;ت&nbsp;ن&nbsp;م&nbsp;ك&nbsp;ط&nbsp;\‬
*\&nbsp;ئ&nbsp;ء&nbsp;ؤ&nbsp;ر&nbsp;ال&nbsp;ى&nbsp;ة&nbsp;و&nbsp;ز&nbsp;ظ‬

Shift:&nbsp;(*ّ&nbsp;&nbsp;َ&nbsp;&nbsp;ً&nbsp;&nbsp;ُ&nbsp;&nbsp;ٌ&nbsp;&nbsp;ِ&nbsp;&nbsp;ٍ&nbsp;& nbsp;ْ&nbsp;&nbsp;combines)
*ّ&nbsp;&nbsp;!&nbsp;@&nbsp;#&nbsp;$&nbsp;%&nbsp;^&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;*&nbsp;)&nbsp;(&nbsp;_&nbsp; +‬
*َ&nbsp;&nbsp;ً&nbsp;&nbsp;ُ&nbsp;&nbsp;ٌ&nbsp;&nbsp;إل&nbsp;إ&nbsp;‘&nbsp;÷&nbsp;×&nbsp;؛&nbsp;<&nb sp;>‬
*ِ&nbsp;&nbsp;ٍ&nbsp;&nbsp;]&nbsp;[&nbsp;أل&nbsp;أ&nbsp;ـ&nbsp;،&nbsp;/&nbsp;:&nbsp;"&nbsp;|‬
*|&nbsp;~&nbsp;ْ&nbsp;&nbsp;}&nbsp;{&nbsp;آل&nbsp;آ&nbsp;’&nbsp;,&nbsp;.&nbsp;؟‬


After&nbsp;pressing&nbsp;Control+Shift+6:

Regular:
*;1234567890-=‬
*/'קראטוןםפ][‬
*שדגכעיחלךף,\‬
*זסבהנמצתץ.‬

Shift:
*~!@#$%^&amp;*)(_+‬
*QWERTYUIOP}{‬
*ASDFGHJKL:"|‬
*|ZXCVBNM><?‬

Alt&nbsp;Gr:&nbsp;(ֿ&nbsp;combines)
*₪ֿ&nbsp;‬
*€װ‬
*ײױ‬
*‬


After&nbsp;pressing&nbsp;Control+Shift+7:

Regular:
`1234567890-=
qwertyuiop[]
asdfghjkl;'₩
\zxcvbnm,./

Shift:
~!@#$%^&*()_+
QWERTYUIOP{}
ASDFGHJKL:"|
|ZXCVBNM<>?

Press&nbsp;Alt&nbsp;Gr&nbsp;once,&nbsp;then&nbsp;Regular:&nbsp;(Almost&nbsp;everything&nbsp;combines )
`1234567890-=
ㅂㅈㄷㄱㅅㅛㅕㅑㅐㅔ[]
ㅁㄴㅇㄹㅎㅗㅓㅏㅣ;'₩
ㅋㅌㅊㅍㅠㅜㅡ,./

Press&nbsp;Alt&nbsp;Gr&nbsp;once,&nbsp;then&nbsp;Shift:&nbsp;(Almost&nbsp;everything&nbsp;combines)
~!@#$%^&*()_+
ㅃㅉㄸㄲㅆㅛㅕㅑㅒㅖ{}
ㅁㄴㅇㄹㅎㅗㅓㅏㅣ:"|
|ㅋㅌㅊㅍㅠㅜㅡ<>?


After&nbsp;pressing&nbsp;Control+Shift+8:

Regular:&nbsp;(A&nbsp;lot&nbsp;combines)
1&nbsp;2&nbsp;3&nbsp;4&nbsp;5&nbsp;6&nbsp;7&nbsp;8&nbsp;9&nbsp;0&nbsp;-&nbsp;ृ
ौ&nbsp;ै&nbsp;ा&nbsp;ी&nbsp;ू&nbsp;ब&nbsp;ह&nbsp;ग&nbsp;द&nbsp;ज&nbsp;ड&nbsp;़
ो&nbsp;े&nbsp;्&nbsp;ि&nbsp;ु&nbsp;प&nbsp;र&nbsp;क&nbsp;त&nbsp;च&nbsp;ट&nbsp;ॉ
ॉ&nbsp;ं&nbsp;म&nbsp;न&nbsp;व&nbsp;ल&nbsp;स&nbsp;,&nbsp;.&nbsp;य

Shift:&nbsp;(A&nbsp;lot&nbsp;combines)
ऍ&nbsp;ॅ&nbsp;्र&nbsp;र्&nbsp;ज्ञ&nbsp;त्र&nbsp;क्ष&nbsp;श्र&nbsp;(&nbsp;)&nbsp;ः&nbsp;ऋ
औ&nbsp;ऐ&nbsp;आ&nbsp;ई&nbsp;ऊ&nbsp;भ&nbsp;ङ&nbsp;घ&nbsp;ध&nbsp;झ&nbsp;ढ&nbsp;ञ
ओ&nbsp;ए&nbsp;अ&nbsp;इ&nbsp;उ&nbsp;फ&nbsp;ऱ&nbsp;ख&nbsp;थ&nbsp;छ&nbsp;ठ&nbsp;ऑ
ऑ&nbsp;ँ&nbsp;ण&nbsp;ळ&nbsp;श&nbsp;ष&nbsp;।&nbsp;य़

Alt&nbsp;Gr:
`&nbsp;१&nbsp;२&nbsp;३&nbsp;४&nbsp;५&nbsp;६&nbsp;७&nbsp;८&nbsp;९&nbsp;०&nbsp;-&nbsp;=
[&nbsp;]
;&nbsp;'&nbsp;\
,&nbsp;.&nbsp;/

Shift&nbsp;Alt&nbsp;Gr:
!&nbsp;@&nbsp;#&nbsp;$&nbsp;%&nbsp;^&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;*&nbsp;(&nbsp;)&nbsp;_&nbsp;+
{&nbsp;}
:&nbsp;"&nbsp;|
ॐ&nbsp;<&nbsp;>&nbsp;?


After&nbsp;pressing&nbsp;Control+Shift+9:

Regular:
՝:ձյ՛,-.«»օռժ
խՒէրտեըիոպչջ
ասդֆքհճկլթփ'
'զցգվբնմշղծ

Shift:
՜1ՁՅ349և()ՕՌԺ
ԽւԷՐՏԵԸԻՈՊՉՋ
ԱՍԴՖՔՀՃԿլԹՓ՞
՞ԶՑԳՎԲՆՄՇՂԾ


After&nbsp;pressing&nbsp;Control+Shift+0:

Regular:&nbsp;(&nbsp;&nbsp;ุ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ึ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ำ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ั&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb sp;ี&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;้&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;่&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ิ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ื&nbsp;combines)
_ๅ/-ภถ&nbsp;&nbsp;ุ&nbsp;&nbsp;ึคตจขช
ๆไ&nbsp;ำพะ&nbsp;&nbsp;ั&nbsp;&nbsp;ีรนยบล
ฟหกดเ&nbsp;&nbsp;้&nbsp;&nbsp;่าสวงฃ
ฃผปแอ&nbsp;&nbsp;ิ&nbsp;&nbsp;ืทมใฝ

Shift:&nbsp;(&nbsp;&nbsp;ู&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ํ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;๊&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;็&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp ;๋&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ฺ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;์&nbsp;combines)
%+๑๒๓๔&nbsp;&nbsp;ู฿๕๖๗๘๙
๐"ฎฑธ&nbsp;&nbsp;ํ&nbsp;&nbsp;๊ณฯญฐ,
ฤฆฏโฌ&nbsp;&nbsp;็&nbsp;&nbsp;๋ษศซ.ฅ
ฅ()ฉฮ&nbsp;&nbsp;ฺ&nbsp;&nbsp;์?ฒฬฦ
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I have a US english keyboard, not a fancy swedish one

What I want is a Icelandic keyboard. Those are ace
I've GOT NO SWEDISH KEYBOARD YOU ****TARD, IT'S FINNISH FOR ****S SAKE.
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I've GOT NO SWEDISH KEYBOARD YOU ****TARD, IT'S FINNISH FOR ****S SAKE.
They use the same keyboard as we do I think.
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I've GOT NO SWEDISH KEYBOARD YOU ****TARD, IT'S FINNISH FOR ****S SAKE.
FK YOU SWEDE-WANNABE MONKEY! !!!!


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On a similar note, I think the Orientals have the worst bag.

Because of the complexities of Mandarin, Japanese etc.. They have to use a thing called IME, which effectively converts Phonetic sayings of words into their Characters. This I would assume means that typing a CV/Resumé must take about 3/4 times as long.

The things you describe are to do with language, keyboard and character set settings on your computer, which dictate how it works.
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On a similar note, I think the Orientals have the worst bag.

Because of the complexities of Mandarin, Japanese etc.. They have to use a thing called IME, which effectively converts Phonetic sayings of words into their Characters. This I would assume means that typing a CV/Resumé must take about 3/4 times as long.

The things you describe are to do with language, keyboard and character set settings on your computer, which dictate how it works.
They can also use by drawing each symbol with the mouse. Although that's probably slower, anyway. And it always seems to guess the wrong character...

Don't they have special keyboards for that, though, as an alternative to the IME? There's also a JP/Japanese keyboard layout, but it doens't change any of the keys on the standard Danish keyboard I have.
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Unread 30 Jan 2003, 22:46   #21
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Quote:
Originally posted by Flavius
hahahahah

portuguese keyboard, i get º, ª and ç which apparently noone here has


muhahah!!

Normal:

\1234567890'«
qwertyuiop+´
asdfghjklçº~
<zxcvbnm,.-

Shift:
|!"#$%&/()=?»
QWERTYUIOP*`
ASDFGHJKLǪ^
>ZXCVBNM;:_

AltGr:
@£§€{[]}
€ (on the E) ¨ (on the */+)
Falar tu portugês? (That's probably not right.)

I've got an °, and even a ', ² and ³... (Not actually sure whether that ° is the degree sign or the masculine ordinal indicator.)

I can also type a ç with Alt+0231 and Ç with Alt+0199.

Don't know/remember the code for the feminine ordinal indicator, though, so I guess you've defeated me anyway, with that little a-thingy...
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if i press ctrl or alt or shift they stay down


its ****ing is pissing me off

my keyboard is ****e
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Unread 31 Jan 2003, 10:50   #23
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FK YOU SWEDE-WANNABE MONKEY! !!!!


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You know what's the difference between faggy apes and heterosexual humans? The same difference applies to Swedish people and Finnish people, in the same order.

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Actually, the Swedish keyboard and the Finnish one are almost exactly the same.

The have the (' *) key in a different place, but thats about all.
And sometime they move the (< > |) key as well.
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Main:
`1234567890-=
qwertyuiop[]
asdfghjkl;'#
\zxcvbnm,./

Shift:
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QWERTYUIOP{}
ASDFGHJKL:@~
|ZXCVBNM<>?

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I've had many many keybord, but the best, by far, is the bog standard black dell one that they're shipping out with their computers these days. They're lovely.
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I don't care what letters it produces as long as it is QUIET.

After working many years in the comput0rized envir0nment I found myself wanting to shove a keyboard down in someone's nasal cavities and out through the rectum for the mere loud rattle they produced while coding.
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