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Unread 16 Jun 2014, 20:01   #151
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P3nguins have been trying to provoke Black Flag for a while now. Last night you hit a 6 man fort, the night previously you hit 1 and a half forts. Also, prior to your war with Ultores, you decided to ptarget us because we hit a fort when intel was slacking (t24-150). All of which Black Flag hadn't responded to.

Maybe you considered Black Flag as easy roids, as you were landing them early in the round, but from a political point of view, P3nguins have been quite hostile. Black Flag have not hit P3nguins yet, your accusations are just assumptions.



Maybe you should stop trying to provoke us?
Where is this 'you' from? I am not part of p3nguins. However, I have a brain and can see logs and use a basic sandmans tool. From what I hear before the war with Ult you didn't just hit 1 fort gal of p3nguins, you instead hit them 3 nights in a row, 2 forts and 3 gals with 3 p3ng in. p3nguins retalled you and you then moaned, claiming ignorance and bad intel.

The night you hit one of their forts so did Ult, which lead to alliances believing you were working with them (not to mention the fact you've had 2 dealings with them this round alone avoiding each others forts)

So please don't come on the forums trying to point the blame elsewhere. It doesn't seem to take much to provoke you.
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Re: R57 gossip thread

Whatever hostilities P3nguins/Black Flag had prior to the Ultores war was sorted when a fort avoidance was agreed. However, after this avoidance had expired and P3nguins stopped warring Ultores, they immediately re-instigated hostilities with Black Flag by hitting 1-2 forts in several consecutive nights.

You accuse us of blaming P3nguins that we haven't gone after the #1/#2, but you have been putting us on the defensive and provoking us into retaliating P3nguins.

If Ultores or Faceless wins this round, then well done to them, at least they know how to play politics competently.
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Whatever hostilities P3nguins/Black Flag had prior to the Ultores war was sorted when a fort avoidance was agreed. However, after this avoidance had expired and P3nguins stopped warring Ultores, they immediately re-instigated hostilities with Black Flag by hitting 1-2 forts in several consecutive nights.

You accuse us of blaming P3nguins that we haven't gone after the #1/#2, but you have been putting us on the defensive and provoking us into hitting P3nguins back.
Again, there is no 'you' I already informed you in my last post I am not a member of the p3nguins alliance. So please stop referring to me as such.

p3nguins are napped with Newdawn and CT. I presume they made an agreement too with Ult to stop the incomings so they can rebuild roids and morale.. from what I hear Ult also made promises on Faceless behalf (but as I said, that's another story for another time and logs can be faked) so who else would p3nguins hit?

Soon, Ult will be to big to hit CT and p3ng anymore even if they wanted too. And of course Faceless is napped with Ult so unless that's broken I doubt they will hit each other (Faceless seem set on sitting second and avoiding that scenario) so.. I wonder who they will hit next? Ill find it amusing when Black Flag turn to CT and p3ng for aid and get nothing in return. Your alliance turned its back when these allies asked for aid in this war with rubbish excuses 'been an alliance who's new' or an alliance which 'doesn't want to be part of this war' (Even though you have avoidance agreements with Ult over forts for now)

Soon you'll be hit. Its surely inevitable.

To be fair, I have to congratulate Ult once again. Their experience has payed of in manipulating other alliances, and their military strength has seen off 2 good alliances.
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Unread 16 Jun 2014, 20:34   #154
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from what I hear Ult also made promises on Faceless behalf (but as I said, that's another story for another time and logs can be faked) so who else would p3nguins hit?
We didn't make promises on anyone's behalf, what did happen though, was a misunderstanding between the people from ult and faceless who talked about this deal
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We didn't make promises on anyone's behalf, what did happen though, was a misunderstanding between the people from ult and faceless who talked about this deal
Then I stand corrected although I did state some logs can always be edited.
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We didn't make promises on anyone's behalf, what did happen though, was a misunderstanding between the people from ult and faceless who talked about this deal
you did, i did tell p3ngs to check it with faceless but they trusted you. their bad!
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Im positivly surprised Faceless has been doing so good this far.

First round mergers is usually hard to handle, Faceless did merge with Nelito`s Immortals right?

Being a full tag of 60 that always attracts alot of incs, they seem to roid good when left alone and running a tight ship in def atm.

i heard p3ng hit some BF forts last night.. and Clouds putting in hours keeping them safe CT have a decent memberbase but have politicly played a bad hand so far this round..
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P3ng has put themselves in this situation tbh.
Ult did not have many p3ng on their galraids and was only galraiding, then p3ng and ct did an offensive hitting ult.. Faceless hit p3ng and p3ng asked for ceasefire for a while from ult..

Then 1st or second night to rebuild the troops and work on the long game they go ahead and roid one of BF`s top forts?
Everyone knows if you have an allie avoiding incs hitting one of their strongest forts will result in getting hostiles..

its quite simple, p3ng is playing horrible.. noone to blame but themselves for sticking their nose into waters filled with sharks!
Lol comments from you that are so far wide. Pretty classless really. We were quite happy hitting ult 1 vs 1 and were catching them considerably at that point. Anyway, we're just playing for fun now. No point when you get incs from 200 planets, 140 of which have no desire or goal to win.

Regarding BF, we have no quarry with you. We retal attacked mornings earlier in the round when it was pretty clear you were targetting our galaxies. Last night, a non regular bc picked two random gals cos most of our members have called it a day. As far as I know, the gals picked were 1 BF and 1 Faceless...yeah, you're right, we're targetting you! You guys keep papering over the cracks by making excuses whilst cleaning Ultores backside.

Side Note: Pretty hard to be good at politics when 3 full tag active alliances and a 20 man crash squad have avoidance agreements w/each other...pre round. wp guys, wp. Kill off the pa member base some more.
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Okay, so you, who were not part of any of the conversations, are telling me what happened, alright...
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tbh though eksero, im having trouble believing anything this round, there is so much lies getting spread around its unreal. getting sick of it and its shameful on those telling and spreading the lies
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tbh though eksero, im having trouble believing anything this round, there is so much lies getting spread around its unreal. getting sick of it and its shameful on those telling and spreading the lies
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tbh though eksero, im having trouble believing anything this round, there is so much lies getting spread around its unreal. getting sick of it and its shameful on those telling and spreading the lies
Maybe so, but unlike others I donn't go around spreading lies to try and get things my way. What happened was a misunderstanding on our part
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Re: R57 gossip thread

apparently:
tonight we were going to be hitting faceless with p3ngs
we were trying to create an anti ult block last week
ultores and p3ngs did a deal to hit ct... despite us napping p3ng ingame :P

im sure you have some obvious ones to tell aswell
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P3ng has put themselves in this situation tbh.
Ult did not have many p3ng on their galraids and was only galraiding, then p3ng and ct did an offensive hitting ult.. Faceless hit p3ng and p3ng asked for ceasefire for a while from ult..

Then 1st or second night to rebuild the troops and work on the long game they go ahead and roid one of BF`s top forts?
Everyone knows if you have an allie avoiding incs hitting one of their strongest forts will result in getting hostiles..

its quite simple, p3ng is playing horrible.. noone to blame but themselves for sticking their nose into waters filled with sharks!
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apparently:
tonight we were going to be hitting faceless with p3ngs
we were trying to create an anti ult block last week
ultores and p3ngs did a deal to hit ct... despite us napping p3ng ingame :P

im sure you have some obvious ones to tell aswell
no such deal was made
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ofc it didn't, it was fairytales!
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did you get inc from p3ng?
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No they did not, I believe the story about Ult and p3n hitting CT was made up for the purpose of pulling nelito's leg but quickly spread
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p3ng came to ult and asked for ceasefire
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youre like two days late with that comment
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"Misunderstandings" and "non-regular bc" setting up attacks is something that seems to be happening very often these days.
Alongside claiming that "coords wernt added to intel", or "the HC that agreed to the deal didnt inform the rest" is also playing major parts of PA
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"Misunderstandings" and "non-regular bc" setting up attacks is something that seems to be happening very often these days.
Alongside claiming that "coords wernt added to intel", or "the HC that agreed to the deal didnt inform the rest" is also playing major parts of PA
I'm not sure what I could possibly have to gain from making it look like a 'misunderstanding' when I was the one who proposed to p3ng to have faceless included in the deal after p3ng had asked ult for a CF, but hey
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Lol comments from you that are so far wide. Pretty classless really. We were quite happy hitting ult 1 vs 1 and were catching them considerably at that point. Anyway, we're just playing for fun now. No point when you get incs from 200 planets, 140 of which have no desire or goal to win.

Regarding BF, we have no quarry with you. We retal attacked mornings earlier in the round when it was pretty clear you were targetting our galaxies. Last night, a non regular bc picked two random gals cos most of our members have called it a day. As far as I know, the gals picked were 1 BF and 1 Faceless...yeah, you're right, we're targetting you! You guys keep papering over the cracks by making excuses whilst cleaning Ultores backside.

Side Note: Pretty hard to be good at politics when 3 full tag active alliances and a 20 man crash squad have avoidance agreements w/each other...pre round. wp guys, wp. Kill off the pa member base some more.
Jesus.. cry much!


All I got from this whine fest was...

A) you screwed up politically

B) you only had incs from 200 planets (as a Xan heavy) you should be able to at least cover 70% of that)

C) you obviously recruited emos if they have given up after 1 bunch of incs at tick 350.

Are you lolmega in disguise???
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Jesus.. cry much!


All I got from this whine fest was...

A) you screwed up politically

B) you only had incs from 200 planets (as a Xan heavy) you should be able to at least cover 70% of that)

C) you obviously recruited emos if they have given up after 1 bunch of incs at tick 350.

Are you lolmega in disguise???
I think this post shows to everyone what an fool you are.
What alliance, if any, has ever been covering up to 70% of all incs at pt200 when they have 300-350 incs?
How you gonna cover CR incs as xan heavy allie? it would require having 2 times the value in shadows just to make a dent
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Jesus.. cry much!


All I got from this whine fest was...

A) you screwed up politically

B) you only had incs from 200 planets (as a Xan heavy) you should be able to at least cover 70% of that)

C) you obviously recruited emos if they have given up after 1 bunch of incs at tick 350.

Are you lolmega in disguise???
lol...dat ignorance post
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I think this post shows to everyone what an fool you are.
What alliance, if any, has ever been covering up to 70% of all incs at pt200 when they have 300-350 incs?
How you gonna cover CR incs as xan heavy allie? it would require having 2 times the value in shadows just to make a dent
Did they have 200+ cr incs?? No

There isn't even that much cr floating around.

When they got hit they were well up there value wise so really there is no excuse.

If they had not been politically inept they wouldn't have had so many incs. You don't get that many for no reason.

What is pathetic is saying that that your members have given up at tick 300. That has emo lolmega written all over it. Any alliance worth its salt should suck it up, cover what it can (which is actually easier when 80% of your alliance is Xan) and then go again.

Just shows how poor p3n recruitment is if they emo out when their 600 roid planets get roided down to 200.
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Did they have 200+ cr incs?? No

There isn't even that much cr floating around.

When they got hit they were well up there value wise so really there is no excuse.

If they had not been politically inept they wouldn't have had so many incs. You don't get that many for no reason.

What is pathetic is saying that that your members have given up at tick 300. That has emo lolmega written all over it. Any alliance worth its salt should suck it up, cover what it can (which is actually easier when 80% of your alliance is Xan) and then go again.

Just shows how poor p3n recruitment is if they emo out when their 600 roid planets get roided down to 200.
Politically inept = Not napping pre round, being declared war on by Ultores, being able to put them under pressure 1 vs 1 so that they ask other allies for help, then other allies stating that we'll be their farms when we even tried any form of discussion w/them. Like I said, your ignorance astounds me
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Politically inept = Not napping pre round, being declared war on by Ultores, being able to put them under pressure 1 vs 1 so that they ask other allies for help, then other allies stating that we'll be their farms when we even tried any form of discussion w/them. Like I said, your ignorance astounds me
Now now, you came at us, not the other way around, we just responded to that. As for other alliances assisting us, I think faceless hit you for one night before we stopped hitting you, other than that we didn't coordinate with anyone
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Now now, you came at us, not the other way around, we just responded to that. As for other alliances assisting us, I think faceless hit you for one night before we stopped hitting you, other than that we didn't coordinate with anyone
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Now now, you came at us, not the other way around, we just responded to that. As for other alliances assisting us, I think faceless hit you for one night before we stopped hitting you, other than that we didn't coordinate with anyone
Having avoidances with two of the other top5 allies means that attacks dont have to be coordinated to damage the ordinary high tier allie these days, and you knew this.
This happend to Ult and all the other allies last round when Spore came into the round preblocked, everyone else get taken out without any coordination needed
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You don't actually need to have the great big important title, nor even to be actively engaged in politics to be "in the know". If calling people names (even fairly innocent ones) is the best you can do, consider the possibility that you may be mistaken.
Calling people names wasn't the intention. But seeing how I was inolved in the Ult dealings and he was not involved in any way, i'm pretty sure I know better than him how things went down, which was what I wanted to point out, though I could have worded it better I suppose!
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Having avoidances with two of the other top5 allies means that attacks dont have to be coordinated to damage the ordinary high tier allie these days, and you knew this.
This happend to Ult and all the other allies last round when Spore came into the round preblocked, everyone else get taken out without any coordination needed
P3ng also had fort avoidance with BF as well, so how is that relevant? And for all I know they could've had avoidances with other alliances as well.
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P3ng also had fort avoidance with BF as well, so how is that relevant? And for all I know they could've had avoidances with other alliances as well.
I dont know who got what deals, obvious to me is that Ultores has had the most favourable deals and the stronger alliance.
If Ultores, and everyone else cannot see how preround blocks is ruining PA, the future for the game is very dark.
Maybe Zhil will come here once again, saying preround blocks are all cool, but then he would be very wrong.
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I dont know who got what deals, obvious to me is that Ultores has had the most favourable deals and the stronger alliance.
If Ultores, and everyone else cannot see how preround blocks is ruining PA, the future for the game is very dark.
Maybe Zhil will come here once again, saying preround blocks are all cool, but then he would be very wrong.
We had no pre round deals....
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You don't actually need to have the great big important title, nor even to be actively engaged in politics to be "in the know". If calling people names (even fairly innocent ones) is the best you can do, consider the possibility that you may be mistaken.
It's all good someone having the discussions when they manipulate the course of action to suit their own interests through their tinted glasses. Even the smallest person can have a great influence. I didn't take it personally, given the source...
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P3ng also had fort avoidance with BF as well, so how is that relevant? And for all I know they could've had avoidances with other alliances as well.
This only occurred because we had spent a couple of days targeting each other's forts and only started just as we began fighting you guys (not sure if it was the same day or the day before).
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This only occurred because we had spent a couple of days targeting each other's forts and only started just as we began fighting you guys (not sure if it was the same day or the day before).
Yeah I know, I just brought it up as he said we were in a favourable position due to these avoidances. But you guys had them as well, so that didn't have any influence on the war
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I dont know who got what deals, obvious to me is that Ultores has had the most favourable deals and the stronger alliance.
If Ultores, and everyone else cannot see how preround blocks is ruining PA, the future for the game is very dark.
Maybe Zhil will come here once again, saying preround blocks are all cool, but then he would be very wrong.
Tell me, what pre round deals did we have for this round?
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Did they have 200+ cr incs?? No

There isn't even that much cr floating around.

When they got hit they were well up there value wise so really there is no excuse.

If they had not been politically inept they wouldn't have had so many incs. You don't get that many for no reason.

What is pathetic is saying that that your members have given up at tick 300. That has emo lolmega written all over it. Any alliance worth its salt should suck it up, cover what it can (which is actually easier when 80% of your alliance is Xan) and then go again.

Just shows how poor p3n recruitment is if they emo out when their 600 roid planets get roided down to 200.
Wich alliances has gotten beaten down HEAVY their first round within the first quarter of the round and come back to win it?
Its not about being political capable how certain alliances handle their buisniss, just look at Vikings, they are well known for killing of most of the other alliances in their tier with pre round blocking with some other higher tier alliance earlier in the round, yet you would prolly call them the prime example of being "political inept".
Im pretty suprised the other alliances, HR, Spore, CT, P3n, and ND actualy are happy with sitting around getting roided dry at this part of the game, without making a stand against the blockers.
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Wich alliances has gotten beaten down HEAVY their first round within the first quarter of the round and come back to win it?
Its not about being political capable how certain alliances handle their buisniss, just look at Vikings, they are well known for killing of most of the other alliances in their tier with pre round blocking with some other higher tier alliance earlier in the round, yet you would prolly call them the prime example of being "political inept".
Im pretty suprised the other alliances, HR, Spore, CT, P3n, and ND actualy are happy with sitting around getting roided dry at this part of the game, without making a stand against the blockers.
People probably arent spending the time playing the game anymore because of your last point
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Wich alliances has gotten beaten down HEAVY their first round within the first quarter of the round and come back to win it?
Its not about being political capable how certain alliances handle their buisniss, just look at Vikings, they are well known for killing of most of the other alliances in their tier with pre round blocking with some other higher tier alliance earlier in the round, yet you would prolly call them the prime example of being "political inept".
Im pretty suprised the other alliances, HR, Spore, CT, P3n, and ND actualy are happy with sitting around getting roided dry at this part of the game, without making a stand against the blockers.
This is not p3ns first round. Alot of their members and HC team are the same when they have played before. They cant use the 'noob' excuse.

As for people getting lolbummed or just bleeding roids at this point of the round ill let you into something amazing you didnt obviously know.

Its tick 450!!

If this was tick 800 then maybe we could all whine but with around 2/3rd of the round to go and with only 1/6th of the member base with over 1k roids (with only 9 planets over 1200) it really doesnt matter at this point. Just save what you can, keep roiding and stop crying. Santa made this stat set to be open, they have been.
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Im pretty suprised the other alliances, HR, Spore, CT, P3n, and ND actually are happy with sitting around getting roided dry at this part of the game, without making a stand against the blockers.
Most alliances have been involved in their own wars. Someone will correct me where I am wrong but I think both ND and spore have at some point attacked HR. CT has been off and on fighting Ult. And since p3n's fighting Ult ended we have been fighting faceless.
This unfortunately prevents too much of a bloc forming against ult. For example one would usually think that having been smashed by ult p3n might be quite happy to take part in a bloc to get some revenge. But having ptargeted by faceless for a few days while we lay on our back and did nothing after stopping the conflict with ult we seem to be intent on fighting faceless to get back some of those lost roids.

Though these kind of conflicts are unlikely to last throughout the round
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