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14 Mar 2009, 15:09
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
Almost as epic as the fact they're actually doing well out of it!
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14 Mar 2009, 15:20
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by M0RPH3US
ND not even just stopped hitting asc, but even cooperates with asc now!?
and yes ofc it has nothing to do with anything said in this thread, its just coincidence
still epic
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was this not the original aim of posting the thread?
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14 Mar 2009, 21:39
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General (Adjective Army)
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by _Kila_
CT deserve the win less than any other alliance in the top4 tbh, if Asc don't win I'd rather Omen did because they have been fighting for it all round.
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Agreed - 100%.
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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
amnion's thinly veiled hatred of everything ascendancy
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I really don't hate Asc - in fact I can't help but have a sneaking admiration for them. I just make no secret of the fact that we don't want them (or anyone else) to win three rounds in a row.
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14 Mar 2009, 22:09
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by _Kila_
CT deserve the win less than any other alliance in the top4 tbh, if Asc don't win I'd rather Omen did because they have been fighting for it all round. If both Omen and Asc both avoided war from the start, CT would be so far behind it wouldn't even be funny.
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I think this is the way that most people in Ascendancy feel. I hope, really hope, that Omen feel the same way, there must certainly be a lot of respect earned for both sides. If they realise this, they can work together and ensure that one of them gets what they both deserve.
Unfortunately I think that's not how those making decisions in Omen feel. There's either a lot of bitterness floating around for whatever reasons, or more morons than we realize.
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14 Mar 2009, 22:44
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You've Seen The Light
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by ellonweb
I think this is the way that most people in Ascendancy feel. I hope, really hope, that Omen feel the same way, there must certainly be a lot of respect earned for both sides. If they realise this, they can work together and ensure that one of them gets what they both deserve.
Unfortunately I think that's not how those making decisions in Omen feel. There's either a lot of bitterness floating around for whatever reasons, or more morons than we realize.
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Dont take the posts on the forums as a indication of Omens bitterness towards Asc or its/our/my feelings.
For me, I certainly dislike Asc but if it came down to choosing which alliance i'd perfer to win (If Omen wasnt a choice) then it'd certainly be Asc.
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15 Mar 2009, 03:00
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
I was taking Omen's actions in game as indicators of what Omen feels. There was some hope mid week but it seems things in Omen HQ have reverted back, so tell me if you disagree with the direction your HC is taking us in, what're you doing about it?
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15 Mar 2009, 04:14
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CRASHING BEATS 'N FANTASY
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by ellonweb
If they realise this, they can work together and ensure that one of them gets what they both deserve.
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Yes ell, but you should also realize that the "feelings" in asc and omen will pretty much be: "BUT NOT THEM!" in such a situation.
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15 Mar 2009, 06:25
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Ubi concordia, ibi victor
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
I think they will either target CT (because they've had the easiest round of all four) or Ascendancy (to prevent them from getting the hattrick), but time will tell.
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What opposition has ND had so far this round that so neatly places CT as the one "having the easiest round so far"?
I will not at all argue that Omen and Asc has been the ones fighting hardest, and by far done best in that regard, but saying that CT has had a easier round than ND so far is just utter Asc propaganda (also known as Bullshit!)
If CT looses it's chance of grabbing #1 I hope Omen are the one grabbing it, to me they are the most deserving ones!
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15 Mar 2009, 11:23
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
All this stuff about X or Y deserving to win or not deserving to win is just a load of crap - the fact is we have 4 alliances who all believe that they can win and they deserve to win. And that's all that should really matter.
I don't need to hear a case about whoever - I want Ascendancy to win, you (and that you is anybody reading this post) probably wants your alliance to win. It's difficult for everybody:
Conspiracy are in a position of reasonable advantage but have Ascendancy stamping on their fingers after a long long period of piling on a lot of value.
NewDawn have arguably 3 better alliances to worry about (and this is no slight on NewDawn) and need to have everyone occupied to achieve a victory, because if one of the 4 goes, the other 2 are bound to cause them a lot of damage. But they can achieve a smart victory.
Ascendancy have the burden of being the most able alliance that people are most suspicious of, having easily taken the most incoming this round. If they win, they'll almost certainly have to fight their way to it.
Omen have had a difficult time and stayed in the race quite admirably. They have a smart leader in Kaifux and they're in a position to win should CT be reeled in to the chasing pack.
4 different alliances, 4 broadly different ways of winning, 4 alliances that pretty much rely on each other's existence, but want each other dead at the same time. I think this is what we call a 'good round'. I think if I said any more beyond that, I'd be going beyond the realms of objectivity.
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15 Mar 2009, 13:55
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by lokken
All this stuff about X or Y deserving to win or not deserving to win is just a load of crap - the fact is we have 4 alliances who all believe that they can win and they deserve to win. And that's all that should really matter.
I don't need to hear a case about whoever - I want Ascendancy to win, you (and that you is anybody reading this post) probably wants your alliance to win. It's difficult for everybody:
Conspiracy are in a position of reasonable advantage but have Ascendancy stamping on their fingers after a long long period of piling on a lot of value.
NewDawn have arguably 3 better alliances to worry about (and this is no slight on NewDawn) and need to have everyone occupied to achieve a victory, because if one of the 4 goes, the other 2 are bound to cause them a lot of damage. But they can achieve a smart victory.
Ascendancy have the burden of being the most able alliance that people are most suspicious of, having easily taken the most incoming this round. If they win, they'll almost certainly have to fight their way to it.
Omen have had a difficult time and stayed in the race quite admirably. They have a smart leader in Kaifux and they're in a position to win should CT be reeled in to the chasing pack.
4 different alliances, 4 broadly different ways of winning, 4 alliances that pretty much rely on each other's existence, but want each other dead at the same time. I think this is what we call a 'good round'. I think if I said any more beyond that, I'd be going beyond the realms of objectivity.
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one of the few good posts in this thread (not calcing mine into em )
the alliance beeing on #1 at the very last tick, deserves it. end of story
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16 Mar 2009, 09:26
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
Now that ND have hit the front, at what point does this turn from "LETS GET CT" to "LETS GET ND?"
We all know its going to come. My question is, how long?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
Can people please stop pretending they have no chance of winning at tick 300, you just end up looking retarded later.
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16 Mar 2009, 09:40
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
It's a little early to call that jungle tbh, one day like today could change everything.
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16 Mar 2009, 09:49
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by [JungleMuffin]
Now that ND have hit the front, at what point does this turn from "LETS GET CT" to "LETS GET ND?"
We all know its going to come. My question is, how long?
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16 Mar 2009, 09:53
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by gzambo
commentary for the sake of commentary is a bit boring less talk more action
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
Can people please stop pretending they have no chance of winning at tick 300, you just end up looking retarded later.
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16 Mar 2009, 09:54
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by Vladel
It's a little early to call that jungle tbh, one day like today could change everything.
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Yeah true, if my boys cap enough, they wont even need to .....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
Can people please stop pretending they have no chance of winning at tick 300, you just end up looking retarded later.
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16 Mar 2009, 10:20
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by [JungleMuffin]
Now that ND have hit the front, at what point does this turn from "LETS GET CT" to "LETS GET ND?"
We all know its going to come. My question is, how long?
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Would appear it already is
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16 Mar 2009, 14:24
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
It's time for action.
It's pretty obvious that all of the stupid ASC posts in this thread have been leading everyone up the garden path.
Oooh we have a 10 to 15% chance of winning.
There are now 4 alliances with a chance of winning.
Ct don't deserve to win.
ALL OF THIS NONSENSE!!!!
The basic fact is that Ascendancy are going to win the round. They now have quite a big roid lead (growing more each day). Not a 10% chance, not 15% not a 1 in 4 chance they ARE going to win.
If everyone is happy with that FACT then continue with the round as you all have done for the past week or so.
If you will feel a bit uneasy that they will be dominating the end of round again (like me) after seemingly being downand out about 10 days ago. Then gather your Alliances, BG's, galmates, Buddy packs and fleets and ATTACK THEM.
AND KEEP ATTACKING THEM TIL THEY CANNOT WIN.
It's quite simple
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16 Mar 2009, 16:23
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
I think ND will win.
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16 Mar 2009, 16:36
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by Zirikk
I think ND will win.
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Well you're wrong because as Zoro said, Ascendancy have already won
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16 Mar 2009, 16:42
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
MAJOR BUMMER REPORTING FOR DUTY
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16 Mar 2009, 18:19
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by M0RPH3US
one of the few good posts in this thread (not calcing mine into em )
the alliance beeing on #1 at the very last tick, deserves it. end of story
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16 Mar 2009, 18:25
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You've Seen The Light
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by M0RPH3US
the alliance beeing on #1 at the very last tick, deserves it.
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Finishing #1 is not the same as deserving to finish #1.
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16 Mar 2009, 18:25
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by Light
Finishing #1 is not the same as deserving to finish #1.
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Actually, finishing #1 is exactly that. If not they wouldnt finish #1.
1+1=2
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16 Mar 2009, 18:28
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You've Seen The Light
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by SteInMetz
Actually, finishing #1 is exactly that. If not they wouldnt finish #1.
1+1=2
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You're getting confused; deserving to have some thing, is not the same as having it.
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16 Mar 2009, 18:37
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoro
It's time for action.
It's pretty obvious that all of the stupid ASC posts in this thread have been leading everyone up the garden path.
Oooh we have a 10 to 15% chance of winning.
There are now 4 alliances with a chance of winning.
Ct don't deserve to win.
ALL OF THIS NONSENSE!!!!
The basic fact is that Ascendancy are going to win the round. They now have quite a big roid lead (growing more each day). Not a 10% chance, not 15% not a 1 in 4 chance they ARE going to win.
If everyone is happy with that FACT then continue with the round as you all have done for the past week or so.
If you will feel a bit uneasy that they will be dominating the end of round again (like me) after seemingly being downand out about 10 days ago. Then gather your Alliances, BG's, galmates, Buddy packs and fleets and ATTACK THEM.
AND KEEP ATTACKING THEM TIL THEY CANNOT WIN.
It's quite simple
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nah let them win (ofc they got the lowest chances of em all, all round now )
i am allready curious to see the EORC
with asc ppl acting like they love to do
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16 Mar 2009, 18:39
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Light
Finishing #1 is not the same as deserving to finish #1.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteInMetz
Actually, finishing #1 is exactly that. If not they wouldnt finish #1.
1+1=2
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maybe your talking about the moral winner Light, who should have won...
but that has nothing to do with deserving #1 spot
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16 Mar 2009, 18:45
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You've Seen The Light
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by SteInMetz
Actually, finishing #1 is exactly that. If not they wouldnt finish #1.
1+1=2
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Ive got to go over this again, as people havent quiet grasped what 'deserve' means.
Just because someone has something does not mean they deserve to have it. The same as someone not having something doesnt automatically mean that they dont deserve to have that something. Simply knowing someone has something, is not indication on weither they deserve it. Thats the logic you're trying to imply, and its faulty at best.
You cannot know weither someone deserves something just by the knowledge that they have it. You need to know how they came to aquire it and that is the deciding factor when judging weither its deserved or not. In this case, the question to find out weither the alliance finishes #1 deserves to finish #1 is 'How did they come to finish #1?' not the question 'Did they finish #1?'.
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by Light
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Light
In this case, the question to find out weither the alliance finishes #1 deserves to finish #1 is 'How did they come to finish #1?' not the question 'Did they finish #1?'.
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no it doesnt matter
if Manchester United wins the Championship, they win it, no matter if they won 50% of their games by luck or Referee´s decissions or whatever
we are not at some Dancing Competition where a group of ppl decides who wins, we have score in PA, just like there is scores in football
your #1 in the end = you deserve to be there
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You've Seen The Light
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by M0RPH3US
no it doesnt matter
if Manchester United wins the Championship, they win it, no matter if they won 50% of their games by luck or Referee´s decissions or whatever
we are not at some Dancing Competition where a group of ppl decides who wins, we have score in PA, just like there is scores in football
your #1 in the end = you deserve to be there
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Yes, If Manchester United wins the Championship, they win it. No-one is arguing the contrary. The thing you're trying to imply is that they 'deserved' to win it as they won it.
Now to stick with this argument, we cannot possible know if Manchester United 'deserved' to win the championship without knowing how they won it. Did they win it by being the best team? or did they win it by luck? or by every game the regeree gave them the game?
If you want to get back to PA, Instead of trying to argue that CT deserves to win the round if they win it which isnt right. Why dont you actually point out what CT has done this round which makes them deserve to win it? As far as i can see they've done this:
1. Played 'Average' politics, by this they didnt do anything special or good.. they simply didnt make stupid choices and not doing something stupid does not mean you did something good.
2. When it finally came to the chance for CT to 'Fight' for its top spot, it crumbled almost instantly even with a huge value lead.
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LOL
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by Light
yes?
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He's mocking you hunny, want me to beat up the nasty man for you?
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
Liverpool wins.
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
Thestoom Won The Championship, Planetarion And Your Mother
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16 Mar 2009, 19:05
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Paso Leaute
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by CBA
LOL
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what is wrong with a newcomer to the game trying to find a basis for the legitimacy of their opinion by proving they can actually play the game to a high level?
Thus is the rationale behind my sig anyway; though it might be taken as a boast that is in no way the original intention.
ofc im not new now and and dont need it but it stays: thats vanity.
anyway light can have her sig for another few rounds as proof of her capacity before it becomes vainglorious!
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You've Seen The Light
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
Quote:
Originally Posted by [B5]Londo
what is wrong with a newcomer to the game trying to find a basis for the legitimacy of their opinion by proving they can actually play the game to a high level?
Thus is the rationale behind my sig anyway; though it might be taken as a boast that is in no way the original intention.
ofc im not new now and and dont need it but it stays: thats vanity.
anyway light can have her sig for another few rounds as proof of her capacity before it becomes vainglorious!
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I use it for personal reference to remember where i was each round and how well i did.
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16 Mar 2009, 19:12
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break it down!
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
http://pirate.planetarion.com/showpo...&postcount=366
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Originally Posted by _Kila_
CT are Aston Villa
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Aston Villa have dropped out of the top 4 for the first time this season this weekend
COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!!
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16 Mar 2009, 19:13
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
I read something about your mum doing Considence.
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16 Mar 2009, 19:47
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Mind-boggling
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Devon, England
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by Stoom
I read something about your mum doing Considence.
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Oh great... The Stoom is back...
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16 Mar 2009, 20:14
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NewDawn
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Stavanger, Norway
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by Light
You're getting confused; deserving to have some thing, is not the same as having it.
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No, it's you getting confused.
By your logic, someone would have to decide the most deserving winner. How would that be done?
If you mean that #1 doesnt deserve to win, you should have done something about it. Not moan afterwards.
If you failed, they clearly deserve to win more than you deserve to moan about it???
If you are talking about moral win etc, then i can totally agree that its not #1 that automatic claims that, but when we're talking about the most deserving it is in the end the one that ends up at #1, because they outplayed the rest no matter how they did it.
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16 Mar 2009, 20:48
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Furious Angel
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: England
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by Zoro
It's time for action.
It's pretty obvious that all of the stupid ASC posts in this thread have been leading everyone up the garden path.
Oooh we have a 10 to 15% chance of winning.
There are now 4 alliances with a chance of winning.
Ct don't deserve to win.
ALL OF THIS NONSENSE!!!!
The basic fact is that Ascendancy are going to win the round. They now have quite a big roid lead (growing more each day). Not a 10% chance, not 15% not a 1 in 4 chance they ARE going to win.
If everyone is happy with that FACT then continue with the round as you all have done for the past week or so.
If you will feel a bit uneasy that they will be dominating the end of round again (like me) after seemingly being downand out about 10 days ago. Then gather your Alliances, BG's, galmates, Buddy packs and fleets and ATTACK THEM.
AND KEEP ATTACKING THEM TIL THEY CANNOT WIN.
It's quite simple
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you wouldnt happen to be ct spreading propaganda now would you ? :crymeariver:
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16 Mar 2009, 20:49
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CRASHING BEATS 'N FANTASY
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Cold Country.
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by SteInMetz
No, it's you getting confused.
By your logic, someone would have to decide the most deserving winner. How would that be done?
If you mean that #1 doesnt deserve to win, you should have done something about it. Not moan afterwards.
If you failed, they clearly deserve to win more than you deserve to moan about it???
If you are talking about moral win etc, then i can totally agree that its not #1 that automatic claims that, but when we're talking about the most deserving it is in the end the one that ends up at #1, because they outplayed the rest no matter how they did it.
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QFT.
According to the game mechanics the alliance deserving #1 is the one with most score. Now everyone, go figure out how you can ensure that you get enough score to deserve that #1 spot.
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16 Mar 2009, 21:06
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idle
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Germany
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by Light
Yes, If Manchester United wins the Championship, they win it. No-one is arguing the contrary. The thing you're trying to imply is that they 'deserved' to win it as they won it.
Now to stick with this argument, we cannot possible know if Manchester United 'deserved' to win the championship without knowing how they won it. Did they win it by being the best team? or did they win it by luck? or by every game the regeree gave them the game?
If you want to get back to PA, Instead of trying to argue that CT deserves to win the round if they win it which isnt right. Why dont you actually point out what CT has done this round which makes them deserve to win it? As far as i can see they've done this:
1. Played 'Average' politics, by this they didnt do anything special or good.. they simply didnt make stupid choices and not doing something stupid does not mean you did something good.
2. When it finally came to the chance for CT to 'Fight' for its top spot, it crumbled almost instantly even with a huge value lead.
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who´s talking about CT !?
i am not talking about a certain alliances
i am just saying if they end on #1 they deserve to be there, no matter how they achieved it
u seem to have a diffrent view on things, thats ok i guess
edit: after looking at sandmans, CT seems to have pretty bad chances to win the round (as a sidenote)
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"It´s not about how hard u hit, its about how hard u can get hit and still keep moving forward! How much u can take and still move forward!"
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16 Mar 2009, 21:06
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Retired
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 253
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
Simple fact of the matter is that before the round Jbg bought me a porsche to ensure and asc win.
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16 Mar 2009, 21:09
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fanboy
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Trondheim, Norway
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by Light
I use it for personal reference to remember where i was each round and how well i did.
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You could have made a notepad file on your desktop or something.
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16 Mar 2009, 21:54
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Benevolent Dictator
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by Heartless
Now everyone, go figure out how you can ensure that you get enough score to deserve that #1 spot.
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OK I think i've got it figured out.
I'm gonna need ND/CT/Asc/Omen/xVx/VGN/Orbit/Rock to go disband there ally tags.
OK?
thanks
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16 Mar 2009, 21:56
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You've Seen The Light
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,152
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by SteInMetz
No, it's you getting confused.
By your logic, someone would have to decide the most deserving winner. How would that be done?
If you mean that #1 doesnt deserve to win, you should have done something about it. Not moan afterwards.
If you failed, they clearly deserve to win more than you deserve to moan about it???
If you are talking about moral win etc, then i can totally agree that its not #1 that automatic claims that, but when we're talking about the most deserving it is in the end the one that ends up at #1, because they outplayed the rest no matter how they did it.
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I have not said anywhere that someone needs to decide the most deserving winner or that the alliance that finishes #1 is the deserving winner. Its just you cant say that CT deserves to win just cuz they finished #1.. if they only finished #1 due to fencesitting.
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Originally Posted by Linkie
You could have made a notepad file on your desktop or something.
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Yes and im sure that'd be nice and safe on my desktop for the next few years..
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First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.
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16 Mar 2009, 22:18
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h3ll's angels
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by Light
I have not said anywhere that someone needs to decide the most deserving winner or that the alliance that finishes #1 is the deserving winner. Its just you cant say that CT deserves to win just cuz they finished #1.. if they only finished #1 due to fencesitting.
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The alliance that accumulates the most score over the round deserves to finish #1 (the same thing as winning). Just because you think score gained by not fencing is somehow more valuable than score gained by fencesitting doesn't change change the fact of the previous sentence. This issue is pretty cut and dry if you discount wildly improbable circumstances.
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16 Mar 2009, 22:32
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LDK
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Norway
Posts: 2,220
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
to me, its clear that either CT or ND deserve to win, because they are both by far the best alliances in this game we like to call Planetarion.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Newt
I would give me right testicle to be in a gal with you wishmaster!!! wonder if thatd be enough to bribe spinner with hmmmm
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16 Mar 2009, 22:35
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idle
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Germany
Posts: 968
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
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Originally Posted by Light
I have not said anywhere that someone needs to decide the most deserving winner or that the alliance that finishes #1 is the deserving winner. Its just you cant say that CT deserves to win just cuz they finished #1.. if they only finished #1 due to fencesitting.
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sure u can say they deserve it
fencesitting is a strategy
maybe not the most brave, but that doesn´t matter
if they would have manage to fencesit to #1 it would have been very well deserved, cause no one was able to stop em (cause they didnt try or failed doesnt matter)
however its not gonna happen
nd will try to fence to #1 now but asc will win
and yes if that happens they deserve it also (not cause they do 1337 forum propaganda posts, but cause they have the most score)
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"It´s not about how hard u hit, its about how hard u can get hit and still keep moving forward! How much u can take and still move forward!"
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17 Mar 2009, 02:55
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Retired
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 253
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Re: An open message to Planetarion
ND haven't fence sat heh,
Being in another war testifies to that,
nor have we gone into vac mode to avoid a fight unlike your brave self good sir
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