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1 Dec 2002, 09:50
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Child Eating Zombie Clown
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Networking and sheit
Alright.
I need to set up an ethernet in my house.. I have 4 computers, and I want the possibility of more. I know this requires a 5 port hub, but do I need any software (I need it so that all 4 comps can share the same connection)
Furthermore, I now have a computer without a monitor. Is there any way for me to remote access it, or set it up so it can share a monitor with another computer?
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1 Dec 2002, 12:47
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yes theres a software requirement, they must all have o.s's installed. If you want to access something remotely then maybe telnet into it?
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1 Dec 2002, 12:52
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Darling
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Re: Networking and sheit
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Originally posted by Mirai
Furthermore, I now have a computer without a monitor. Is there any way for me to remote access it, or set it up so it can share a monitor with another computer?
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To make it share a monitor you can use a KVM switch - it will also share the same kb/mouse using this method.
To get the command line remotely you can set up a telnet or SSH server.
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1 Dec 2002, 15:15
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Wont generally work if it's a PS2 mouse - if you 'unplug' them (ie switch it to the other machine) it won't come back on when you plug it back in again.
Allways a bit of a bugger, really.
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1 Dec 2002, 17:07
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Quote:
Originally posted by sh@dow
yes theres a software requirement, they must all have o.s's installed. If you want to access something remotely then maybe telnet into it?
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wtf? NO! they must all be using the same network protocal, but it doesnt make a diference wtf os is insalled on each machine.
and there are many ways to remotly admin a machine, ssh, telnet, or vnc. vnc is particularly cool, as it lets you use a desktop on the machine you are vnc'ing to. worth a look.
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1 Dec 2002, 21:32
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Quote:
Originally posted by Lord211
wtf? NO! they must all be using the same network protocal, but it doesnt make a diference wtf os is insalled on each machine.
and there are many ways to remotly admin a machine, ssh, telnet, or vnc. vnc is particularly cool, as it lets you use a desktop on the machine you are vnc'ing to. worth a look.
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where did he say that they needed the same os?
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2 Dec 2002, 02:20
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Quote:
Originally posted by meglamaniac
Wont generally work if it's a PS2 mouse - if you 'unplug' them (ie switch it to the other machine) it won't come back on when you plug it back in again.
Allways a bit of a bugger, really.
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That's why I have 2 mice on my desk Works fine for the monitor though and the keyboards ok as long as you don't flick back and forth too fast. Oh, and you'd best not take too much notice of the numlock light either
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2 Dec 2002, 02:47
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Child Eating Zombie Clown
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Alright..
The guys at CompUSA say that I need a router in order to share a connection, but my friends at school say I only need a hub. Who here is correct? Also, I want to dual boot linux and windows on one machine, and therefore I need to know how to set up linux to recognize the ethernet. How do I do that?
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2 Dec 2002, 13:08
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You don't need a router to share a internet connection. On Windows you can use Internett Connection Sharing, and it's possible to Share the Internet Connection on a Linux machine too.
If your going to install Linux, then check the Installation Manual to find out how to set up your ethernetcard. It's usually not difficult to set it up.
You can also look here for some Linux guides:
Linux Documentation Project
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2 Dec 2002, 17:23
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just attach one machine to the internet via a network card and the same one to your mini lan via another network card in the same pc
one would advise some sort of firewalling software on that machine though
set up this computer as a gateway on the other network boxes
depends which way you wanna do it
terminal services
vnc - doesn't care about OS as long as you got the corresponding OS version of the client installed - ie you can look at a linux box with linux vnc client installed from a windows box etc
screen for linux
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2 Dec 2002, 21:56
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the guy who told you to get a router is a complete twat cause you dont, though you could use 1. A hub would be fine for a small network like yours, basically a router routes packets to computers on the desination port only so the other nodes arent flooded with packets and hubs broadcast it to all nodes, though its not a big deal unless you have alot of computers which you dont
p.s lord211 learn to read instead of making an ass of yourself
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3 Dec 2002, 00:45
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oops, must have been tired when i read that. :P
as for needing a router, as others have said, no you can just do
Modem -> computer -> Hub -> Other computers
in this case the computer attached to the modem is acting as a router. Im not sure if plugging a modem straight into the hub will work, im thinking it wouldnt.
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3 Dec 2002, 02:35
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Quote:
Originally posted by sh@dow
the guy who told you to get a router is a complete twat cause you dont, though you could use 1. A hub would be fine for a small network like yours, basically a router routes packets to computers on the desination port only so the other nodes arent flooded with packets and hubs broadcast it to all nodes, though its not a big deal unless you have alot of computers which you dont
p.s lord211 learn to read instead of making an ass of yourself
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iirc you are thinking of a switch. He still requires a router to share a connection, or 'route packets for other computers', whether that is hardware or software based is irrelevant.
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3 Dec 2002, 12:02
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Vitriolic
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Quote:
Originally posted by MT
iirc you are thinking of a switch. He still requires a router to share a connection, or 'route packets for other computers', whether that is hardware or software based is irrelevant.
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correct
cheapest way is to just stick 2 network cards in one box
although remember that machine must always be on if you want packets from the internet on your other pc's
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