Who will be first?

[SYMM]

Lots of alliances have said they will go solo for r10, but what about 9.5?
I hope my alliance decides to, but that can only realistically happen if everyone decided to. So will someone say they're going alone so everyone else will follow?

[Sokar]

Olympians and some others already announced long ago that they will go solo if r9.5 happens.

[Scouse]

Eclipse and ToT are gonna ally and try and ruin everyone's fun.










Honest.

Originally posted by Scouse
Eclipse and ToT are gonna ally and try and ruin everyone's fun.










Honest.

did we un-ally at some point?

[Scouse]

Originally posted by Dreadnought!
did we un-ally at some point?

No, but the idea was for all alliances to be solo in round 9.5. Even Eclipse HC have publically said they would agree.

[Razorback]

Originally posted by Scouse
No, but the idea was for all alliances to be solo in round 9.5. Even Eclipse HC have publically said they would agree.

And have "they" publically said anything different from that yet ?
enlighten me scouse

[Scouse]

Originally posted by Razorback
And have "they" publically said anything different from that yet ?
enlighten me scouse

No. But 'they' wouldn't if 'they' were going to stay allied, would 'they'?

[gzambo]

so what are the chances that every alliance goes into rd 9.5 without blocking of any kind
and will they just give planet naps straight away or will they give gal naps till they have logged who is and is not hostile

[Razorback]

Originally posted by Scouse
No. But 'they' wouldn't if 'they' were going to stay allied, would 'they'?

Did you take lessons from Rumad ? another furah coming ?

As far as it concerns eclipse i learned about 40 mins ago that there is a r9.5 so i can say we have yet no plans in whatever direction they may go and will have an commandmeeting about that seeing if eclipse plays r9.5 or if we prepare for r10 and take a small break.
Its rumored to be only 600 ticks in r9.5 so i dont know if 4 weeks is worth the big effort or not.
Im sure as you are well informed youll keep yourself updated.

Eclipse will deffinately play r10 and most likely play r9.5.
Our idea of going alone in r9.5 coming from the first rumors about r9.5 still stand and i dont see a problem yet to follow it.

[Jester]

Originally posted by Razorback
Did you take lessons from Rumad ? another furah coming ?

You take yourself entirely too seriously.

Jester

[Razorback]

Originally posted by Jester
You take yourself entirely too seriously.

Jester

I love it when you stroke my ego Jester. Of all posters you are the one i admire most

[KoRnNut]

Sorta depends on the massive numbers of 'Focht Bum Lickers' from the E/T galaxies. Many of the non-E/T gal mates in Eclipse galaxies either sat out of the war entirely, or had a deal with Eclipse/ToT where they could defend *anyone* they want, but never attack E/T, and/or they simply attacked with E/T. An army of slaves basically. I *pld* Eclipse for striking that much fear into the cowards

WP having suspended almost 100 of their members are just one of many alliances that need to decide if these spineless crumpet monkies should be allowed back in. FAnG/NoS/blah blah blah, everyone pretty much(well maybe not VOM/VRTX, just WE__NARFZ) has members considered "suspended" due to these circumstances. Also to mention the obscene number of defectors E/T obtained. I really dunno what 9.5 will hold, an easy Eclipse or ToT victory once again, this time with a showdown of the two perhaps at some point.

Since a fresh 9.5 will render my Para Alliance useless, *sniff*, my baby.... I'll likely rejoin NoS. They only get me back though if A) No allies ffs, no exceptions and B) They do NOT reactivate their suspended members whom are in E/T SlaveShip Galaxies.

[Scouse]

Originally posted by Razorback
Did you take lessons from Rumad ? another furah coming ?

You and Germ (and occasionally Hicks) are just too easy.

[KaneED]

Originally posted by Scouse
You and Germ (and occasionally Hicks) are just too easy.

Damn these alliance whores :/

[Hicks]

Scouse and Rumad sitting in a tree K I S S I N G, first comes love, then comes marriage, then Scouse with a babies carriage.

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by Scouse
You and Germ (and occasionally Hicks) are just too easy.

What about me? :/

[Leshy]

Originally posted by Zh|l
What about me? :/

Your easyness is legendary and doesn't need commenting upon

[G.K Zhukov]

Originally posted by KoRnNut
Sorta depends on the massive numbers of 'Focht Bum Lickers' from the E/T galaxies. Many of the non-E/T gal mates in Eclipse galaxies either sat out of the war entirely, or had a deal with Eclipse/ToT where they could defend *anyone* they want, but never attack E/T, and/or they simply attacked with E/T. An army of slaves basically. I *pld* Eclipse for striking that much fear into the cowards

WP having suspended almost 100 of their members are just one of many alliances that need to decide if these spineless crumpet monkies should be allowed back in. FAnG/NoS/blah blah blah, everyone pretty much(well maybe not VOM/VRTX, just WE__NARFZ) has members considered "suspended" due to these circumstances. Also to mention the obscene number of defectors E/T obtained. I really dunno what 9.5 will hold, an easy Eclipse or ToT victory once again, this time with a showdown of the two perhaps at some point.

Since a fresh 9.5 will render my Para Alliance useless, *sniff*, my baby.... I'll likely rejoin NoS. They only get me back though if A) No allies ffs, no exceptions and B) They do NOT reactivate their suspended members whom are in E/T SlaveShip Galaxies.

How cute to see that there are still people who doesnt know **** about galaxy control.
(no offense to the poster Im replying to)

[Petru]

There was already a declaration of intent for r9.5 by RaH, Olympians and Vision (may have been others but I can't remember). It's quite a simple process of elimination as to who of the remainders will be attempting to sneak an allied policy in somewhere.

The r9.5 start will be pretty soon from what I have been told (haven't read the announcement myself though), so it gives a short while for those remaining to give a similar declaration. You can assume anyone who doesn't has other plans.

The problem comes with the rumour mongering and half assed assumptions, ie Eclipse hasn't yet put up a post saying they will remain solo for 9.5 (I'm _sure_ if they play they will go solo, such talent should be able to prove itself *ahem*), so people are probably already assuming they'll go and at the very least maintain one ally.

That in turn is enough in some peoples minds to justify themselves taking an ally and then in turn others justifying taking 2 allies, and so on.


The only way to stop the spiral of partnering before it kicks off is to publically state your intent for 9.5.

So, Eclipse, ToT, Wolfpack, Seraphim and everyone else that I can't remember or be bothered to list, get your finger out and make an effort to stop it before it starts.

[SpazMonster]

no one should need an ally before the round starts anyway. Hell, you don't even know what sort of attack/defence power you have till about 100 ticks in the game. It makes things very inflexible when you go in with a set group of allies. Being able to attack and defend whoever you want would seem like the best choice...

[Kjeldoran]

I also announce to go solo during r9.5 .....

no seriously, I'm goin completely solo, I swear it !!!

I'd say, ally block etc for the last time and maybe try and get those shiny balls out (which you all kept hiding in your blocks) and go solo r10?

rgds Kj

[Psi_K]

Originally posted by Petru
There was already a declaration of intent for r9.5 by RaH, Olympians and Vision (may have been others but I can't remember). It's quite a simple process of elimination as to who of the remainders will be attempting to sneak an allied policy in somewhere.

So, Eclipse, ToT, Wolfpack, Seraphim and everyone else that I can't remember or be bothered to list, get your finger out and make an effort to stop it before it starts.

I believe Wolfpack, Ely have also declaired their independance.

[Scouse]

Originally posted by Petru
The only way to stop the spiral of partnering before it kicks off is to publically state your intent for 9.5.

I'd like to see this, but they could just tell fibs so noone else allies and they get it easy.

What everyone else would do after that would be interesting.

And if this is done we can expect a lot of "X is allied with Y and I've got the proof" type threads here on AD.

Sounds fun.

[Colt]

FAnG also announced they would go it alone iirc

[TAFKAJ]

I can say on behalf of Vision, we are certainly going alone in R 9.5 AND 10. I just hope many other will do so too....

[Tomatoman]

Eclipse's minister of information says "we play solo"
ToT's minister of information says "we play solo"
Elysium's minister of information says "we play solo"
Wolfpack's minister of information says "we play solo"
Rah's minister of information says "we play solo"
NoS's minister of information says "we play solo"
Vision's minister of information says "we play solo"
Olympians's minister of information says "we play solo"
Seraphim's minister of information says "we play solo"
Virus's minister of information says "we play solo"
Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf says "there are no alliances in PA at all, everybody plays solo"

[logbat]

Originally posted by Tomatoman


Eclipse's minister of information says "we play solo"
ToT's minister of information says "we play solo"
Elysium's minister of information says "we play solo"
Wolfpack's minister of information says "we play solo"
Rah's minister of information says "we play solo"
NoS's minister of information says "we play solo"
Vision's minister of information says "we play solo"
Olympians's minister of information says "we play solo"
Seraphim's minister of information says "we play solo"
Virus's minister of information says "we play solo"
Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf says "there are no alliances in PA at all, everybody plays solo"

LOL!

anyway the history will repeat itself!
This rounds winners will get buttrapored and thats acording to uni lists atm is fu.. eh eclipse and ToT

[skipper]

I doubt that virus will go all by themselves as they never have, too weak for it i guess

[skipper]

Originally posted by Petru
The only way to stop the spiral of partnering before it kicks off is to publically state your intent for 9.5.

Originally posted by Scouse
I'd like to see this, but they could just tell fibs so noone else allies and they get it easy.

If an High commander announces on AD that the alliance goes alone r9.5/10 and then appears they're allied to someone the high commmander will be treated pritty much as a cheater as you have lost your credibility and you will be hated by many, so i dont think any HC would do that. Afterall who would like to change places with Killmark on pa-scene.

[Morden]

Originally posted by skipper
If an High commander announces on AD that the alliance goes alone r9.5/10 and then appears they're allied to someone the high commmander will be treated pritty much as a cheater as you have lost your credibility and you will be hated by many, so i dont think any HC would do that. Afterall who would like to change places with Killmark on pa-scene.

LOL you severely underestimate the alliance HC around these days.

the only people who would need to know about it would be the HC, take Virus in r8 for an example, and im damned well sure there are others who have and would do the same thing if they felt they needed to.

especially if the HC in question wasnt exactly liked anyway.

dont over estimate the effect of having AD dislike you, as it means precisely dick. Killmark might not be liked by many but there are enough people who like him for him to do well every round he plays.

[skipper]

It depends on players values, as I see it telling such a lie would burn way too many bridges. Killmark is a bit harsh example, but this round showed his carrying an awful weight for something he did many rounds ago. So i cant see any high command stupid enough for it. Also this includes only the very top alliances I doubt that fang and wp alliance would dominate the universe. The better the alliance is ie Eclipse the more they got to loose.

The hiding thing is tho very good point that i didnt see and it makes quite easy to actually have an alliance, but still it takes two coward high commands If there still would be a hided alliance the allies could not defend each other, which makes it even harder for fang and wp

And if the alliance is so weak that they think they have no change in an solo alliance universe, they just shouldnt agree to go solo. Not lie on AD, as they get less than loose from it.

[Morden]

Originally posted by skipper
And if the alliance is so weak that they think they have no change in an solo alliance universe, they just shouldnt agree to go solo.

Its not just about weakness, its more of the desire to win, and to look out for the bets interrests of the members.

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by skipper
HC stuff

AD is a tool, nothing more. In this age of Planetarion it bears little upon the game itself, politics are normally dead set before anything ever arises upon these boards.

All in all, I don't recall people like Grendel or Sid being using these boards as anything else. A HC should never outright lie on the boards (something Sid was credited for - he always told the truth), thats not to say the truth can be turned into some use.

HC who openly lie could get slandered but its extremely unlikely this would have a great effect upon the alliance. Many command members have ups and downs in their PR history (some with more downs than ups)

[KeyStroke]

Originally posted by skipper
And if the alliance is so weak that they think they have no change in an solo alliance universe, they just shouldnt agree to go solo. Not lie on AD, as they get less than loose from it.

Shouldnt that be "chance?"

I think its sad if players/alliances cant seem to play just for the sake of having fun rather than for winning at all costs.

I can only speak for myself and our alliance, but we had fun this round regardless what position we end up with. We attacked/defended, pritty much business as usual as we go solo round after round.

Although a shrinking gaming universe, and the extreme blocking this round gave had its impact. We had some 60+ people quit this round. (quit the game all together, some for real life issues, but most out of couldnt handle the phase this round gave). We are still running at a healthy state though, no core members lost, activity been somewhat at same level throughout the round.

Im proud to play along my brothers & sisters in arms. So should everyone else be. Your alliance should be enough, if its not you have to little faith in it.

[skipper]

yes its chance, never been good at english :G

The thin red line of games is to win it, without a competition about winner there would be no game at all. So with "people just having fun" wouldnt work too well.

[Gerbie]

Massive games cannot be about winning. There can be only one winner and thousands of losers. The losers will quit if it's only about winning.

I've played different online games in the early days of Internet. Nowadays there's mmorpg's. Such games are played for the satisfaction of doing well as an individual and/or as a group of players. This is the way I think PA is going and should be going. Ofc there should be an aim to win the game. But that should not be the primary purpose of playing.

[skipper]

Originally posted by Zh|l
AD is a tool, nothing more. In this age of Planetarion it bears little upon the game itself, politics are normally dead set before anything ever arises upon these boards.

All in all, I don't recall people like Grendel or Sid being using these boards as anything else. A HC should never outright lie on the boards (something Sid was credited for - he always told the truth), thats not to say the truth can be turned into some use.

HC who openly lie could get slandered but its extremely unlikely this would have a great effect upon the alliance. Many command members have ups and downs in their PR history (some with more downs than ups)

AD is certainly a tool and it could be used to prevent allying. If all major Alliances would say their stance in public(in AD) as few have done. It would make it easier for alliances to go solo. This is ideal, but not impossible, if the community really wants to get rid of blocks and allying and everyone is happy with their alliance go alone. There are still many difficulties in the idea as hiding alliance, and alliance sizes, but imo it should be done. With a little effort of an high profile player with contacts through universe its as easy as creating a private galaxy. Theres also a chance that Pateam has already created a solution to this problem, so i find it quite meaningless to talk about this atm :]..but if r10 brings nothing new to blocking it should be tried. And if theres then alliances not agreeing to do this solothing, then theres no point whine about NARFWEETZ's but accept the realities.

[skipper]

Originally posted by Gerbie
Massive games cannot be about winning. There can be only one winner and thousands of losers. The losers will quit if it's only about winning.

I've played different online games in the early days of Internet. Nowadays there's mmorpg's. Such games are played for the satisfaction of doing well as an individual and/or as a group of players. This is the way I think PA is going and should be going. Ofc there should be an aim to win the game. But that should not be the primary purpose of playing.

I didnt say its only about winning but thats the main thing that pulls games together. Rpg's are a unique gametype and cant be compared to planetarion, as theres no "gameworld" in planetarion.

[Gerbie]

I disagree. They can be compared. Ofc. there are differences, but that does not mean they don't have a lot in common.