So I read this ban muslim thing.

[Baron Morte]

I just want to know what you people mean when saying " repeatedly wrong"?
I´ve made a lot of scientific threads, which were all non conclusive. They where all anti climaxed due do lack of scientific method by me and the other forum users.

The point is that you dont agree with my views, and you cant prove me wrong, so its easier to just say im wrong, which is stupid and scietifically inacurrate. Personally I do think most of you are wrong, (i´m looking at you diry mouthed mark) but that doesnt mean you are wrong. As always I might be wrong.

In short, you people lack scietific method.

[Ragnarak]

Originally Posted by Baron Morte

blah

I never said you were wrong, i sad you were shit. Repeatedly shit. Defend that one.

[Phang]

'because im great' is not a valid way to back out of an argument you are losing

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Baron Morte

In short, you people lack scietific method.

Odd thing to criticise me for, given that of anyone (except probably Giles) on this forum, I understand the scientific method best.

You, on the other hand, evidently don't understand it, because you make circular hypotheses.

[LHC]

You are entirely wrong about almost everything, but I don't want to see you banned.

[Baron Morte]

Originally Posted by Ragnarak

I never said you were wrong, i sad you were shit. Repeatedly shit. Defend that one.

Your personal thought of me being shit doesnt make me a shitty person.

Also, define being shit.

[Baron Morte]

Originally Posted by Phang

'because im great' is not a valid way to back out of an argument you are losing

You are missing the point.
I said that because in the same thread someone said " youre crap". That childish behaviour doesnt make any more sense than saying "no, because im great".

Pity people failed to realize the irony.

[Baron Morte]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Odd thing to criticise me for, given that of anyone (except probably Giles) on this forum, I understand the scientific method best.

You, on the other hand, evidently don't understand it, because you make circular hypotheses.

I dont make circular hypotheses. I just rewrite it in a clearer way, and rephrase also.

I said that on one of my threads.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Baron Morte

You are missing the point.
I said that because in the same thread someone said " youre crap". That childish behaviour doesnt make any more sense than saying "no, because im great".

In the most recent example, I called you stupid because you refused to believe that SA is more than a forum, which it is. It's a humour site with a forum attached.

I think that counts as empirical evidence to support my case.

[Baron Morte]

My case was that It was forum. It might be more than that, but still it has a forum contained in it.

[LHC]

planetarion is a forum am i rite

[Baron Morte]

The point is that in the days of Yore people would prolly close the thread.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Baron Morte

My case was that It was forum. It might be more than that, but still it has a forum contained in it.

Actually, no it wasn't.

That aside, I don't think you should be banned. Although infuriating on occasion, you bring humour.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Baron Morte

The point is that in the days of Yore people would prolly close the thread.

No they wouldn't.

[Baron Morte]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Actually, no it wasn't.

That aside, I don't think you should be banned. Although infuriating on occasion, you bring humour.

How can you say what my point was?
All you can say is that the phrasing I used indicated blah blah blah
Thats what is wrong with you people!

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Baron Morte

How can you say what my point was?
All you can say is that the phrasing I used indicated blah blah blah
Thats what is wrong with you people!

Ah. I see where the problem lies.

We consider language to be the means to understanding someone; english is a subtle language and its nuances can imply many things. However, it's also perfectly understandable in a more compact, less verbose form.

You, on the other hand, consider language to be useless, and prefer to use telepathy to get your point across, abandoning the post to its own devices.

[Nodrog]

3 fox rule has been empirically verified again.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

3 fox rule has been empirically verified again.

hey nod's gay hahahaha

[Baron Morte]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Ah. I see where the problem lies.

We consider language to be the means to understanding someone; english is a subtle language and its nuances can imply many things. However, it's also perfectly understandable in a more compact, less verbose form.

You, on the other hand, consider language to be useless, and prefer to use telepathy to get your point across, abandoning the post to its own devices.

No. I just want that people use language accuratedly.

Like when i explained how wrong you were by arguiing that "it wasnt your point".

[Ragnarak]

Originally Posted by Baron Morte

No. I just want that people use language accuratedly.

lolly roffle

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Baron Morte

No. I just want that people use language accuratedly.

Don't we all?

[Dante Hicks]

As I said previously, I wouldn't want any banning to take place.

BUT, you might want to lay off the following when arguing :

1. Presuming you are talking to idiots
2. Resorting to "You don't understand to science" (or evolution, or whatever).
3. Refusing to reference facts.
4. Making arguments which don't actually say anything particular.
5. Making an argument which goes something like "I think this, you think that, there's no way to prove either way, therefore I'm right and you're wrong."

Also, being courteous goes a long way.

[Baron Morte]

Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

As I said previously, I wouldn't want any banning to take place.

BUT, you might want to lay off the following when arguing :

1. Presuming you are talking to idiots
2. Resorting to "You don't understand to science" (or evolution, or whatever).
3. Refusing to reference facts.
4. Making arguments which don't actually say anything particular.
5. Making an argument which goes something like "I think this, you think that, there's no way to prove either way, therefore I'm right and you're wrong."

Also, being courteous goes a long way.

Well im sorry about all that. It wasnt my intention. And the courtesy thing, Ive never being rude to anyone which havent been rude to be before.

[JonnyBGood]

And why the hell can't you speak proper English sometimes? Some of your posts just plain don't make sense :(








PS Damn foreigners

[Baron Morte]

Also I would like that people would correct me when gramatically wrong so I can improve my english. Thanks for bringing that up.

[JonnyBGood]

Oh. I always thought that'd come across as horribly condescending and arrogant. Both of which I do extremely well otherwise mind.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Baron Morte

Also I would like that people would correct me when gramatically wrong so I can improve my english. Thanks for bringing that up.

People would be more likely to want to help you if, when a mistake was pointed out, you denied that one had been made and claimed that your understanding of english grammar was better than a native's.

[KaneED]

I thought you told me not to tell anyone?

[Baron Morte]

I cant argue with the laws of grammar, because they are clear and unmistakable.

[Baron Morte]

Originally Posted by KaneED

I thought you told me not to tell anyone?

I did but people dont seem to heed anything I say.
I asked the same to johnny also, but he wouldnt listen to me. He lied to me.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by KaneED

I thought you told me not to tell anyone?

He told me as well. And I didn't tell anyone. It was just really, really, REALLY obvious



I didn't ****ing lie to you ****ing faggot. The utter irrelevancy of such a promise when everyone who cares already knows because you didn't change your posting style one bit and bar the extra emphasis on evolution and shit you've got, and had, one hell of a distinctive style which most people don't miss. Jeez.





PS The laws of grammar.

[KaneED]

stop being a retard muslim




<Jonny> can someone please post in muslim's thread and call him a retard every twenty minutes for the rest of the night

[Baron Morte]

You did so. You even admitted in one of the pms you sent me.

[MrL_JaKiri]

It was pretty obvious duder.

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by Baron Morte

I cant argue with the laws of grammar, because they are clear and unmistakable.

I don't really mean to be argumentative, but this is hardly universal. If "the laws of grammar" were unmistakable then I don't see why people would make so many mistakes, why different dialects would have subtley different grammatical rules, etc, etc.

And in general, you should avoid rudeness even to people who have been rude in the past.

[Baron Morte]

People make mistakes out of ignorance of the rules, well, maybe poets and in cases of "for lack of better expression". The dialets are disappearing, and the language as it is today, due to higher education, mass media and such, tends to become more static than it ever was.

[MrL_JaKiri]

I'd say it's changing more than ever, but by subculture rather than region.

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by Baron Morte

People make mistakes out of ignorance of the rules

Right, so mistakes are made, but it's unmistakable. OK.

As for the rest of your point : Language is more fluid if anything. More words are added to the dictionary at an ever increasing rate. Dialects (different from a language or accent) are just as common - compare the grammar in philosophy text books to how teenager speaks, or ebonics, or whatever.

[Baron Morte]

Changes that come and go. The grammar as it is, stays.

[Baron Morte]

Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

Right, so mistakes are made, but it's unmistakable. OK.

It means that people are unmistakably right or wrong, because the guidelines are clear, not like "How much of a person´s personality is due to genes, and how much is due to enviorement".

Of course new words ought to be created, but it doesnt change the language.

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by Baron Morte

The grammar as it is, stays.

Not exactly, no. Besides, if this is what you meant, why did you say "the language stats as it is"? Language isn't the same thing as grammar.

Anyway the grammar in say, ebonics, is slightly different from other grammars. This is how languages start to diverge. Do you think the difference between dialects is simply the vocabulary? Do you think if you directly translate a "l33tspeak" conversation it makes much sense?

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by Baron Morte

It means that people are unmistakably right or wrong

Grammatical rules are not that clear cut. I'll leave it at that, as I'm doing a few other things, but if you want we can come back to it later.

[Baron Morte]

One definition of grammatical which I found was:

conforming to the rules of grammar or usage accepted by native speakers; "spoke in grammatical sentences"

And i think the tories DONT appreciate immigrants´s grammar.

In this sense, its up to you to maintain it.

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by Baron Morte

In this sense, its up to you to maintain it.

Native isn't the same as indigenous in this context. American grammar is subtley different from Australian grammar, or British grammar, or whatever. Native speaker merely means it's your mother's tongue.

When we're basing the rules on what people follow it's obviously going to be varied. It's like the idea of common sense.

[Intrepid00]

Such data is a sin to store on MySQL.

[Pyr0 MK III]

i never understood the whole muslim hating thing, i liked him.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Baron Morte

You did so. You even admitted in one of the pms you sent me.

Most people I've spoken to have either guessed it was you or think you're some sort of troll. Trolls usually get the largest number of replies in their threads (re: Sunday8pm aka Evergreen). Anyways I suppose I did lie yeah, however it's hardly relevant anymore (especially seeing as evolutionary psychology indicates that promises are not actual expressions of will but mere temporary assertions designed to achieve short-term goals on behalf of the party under duress in the contract!)

Which is pretty much what I said above however at that time I just didn't want another message so I just agreed while still thinking you're an idiot.

[Weeks]

This thread reinforces the fact Muslim should be banned for being lame.

[Radical Edward]

Muslim commenting on the strength of his scientific endeavours. not something I thought I would ever see.

I seem to be running out of good science books to read now must order some more.

[Billy No Mates]

I thought shit was banned here?