World's Smallest Political Quiz

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Intrepid00

The moon landings are fake, I saw William Shatner's stunt doubles coffee mug in the frame.

Fred Lubens!

Of course, we all know Captain Picard is the superior officer.

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by Qdeathstar

The BBC overstates civilian causulties. Id suggest nbc for better news..along with CNN. The BBC also no not follow generally accepted guidelines for what to show/not show on TV....

My God, you really are a complete idiot.

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

The tory party is more central now, so I don't see how you can particularly argue.

It's been a while since the abolition of taxes was a Tory Party policy.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Proteus

It's been a while since the abolition of taxes was a Tory Party policy.

If you combine it with 'and kill all the poor people', I don't see how you'd be far off the mark.

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

If you combine it with 'and kill all the poor people', I don't see how you'd be far off the mark.

You don't want to kill all the poor people. They're far too useful for fighting Corsican emperors and rebellious colonials. Plus taxes pay for armies and navies, which are

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Proteus

You don't want to kill all the poor people. They're far too useful for fighting Corsican emperors and rebellious colonials. Plus taxes pay for armies and navies, which are

Shall I put my elephant gun away then?

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Shall I put my elephant gun away then?

Yes. There's a crate of muskets in the corner. Give them to the residents of Durham, and we'll launch an invasion of Denmark.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Proteus

Yes. There's a crate of muskets in the corner. Give them to the residents of Durham, and we'll launch an invasion of Denmark.

I feel like storming the University College Chapel, personally.

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

I feel like storming the University College Chapel, personally.

If we're switching tactics to the destruction of academic institutions, then King's College Cambridge should be first on the list. Damned Communists, the lot of them.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Proteus

If we're switching tactics to the destruction of academic institutions, then King's College Cambridge should be first on the list. Damned Communists, the lot of them.

I say we go for Corpus.

We should have finished the job in the civil war

[Tactitus]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

About 10,000 (By May of last year, there were over a thousand known civilian deaths and nearly a thousand more suspected in Baghdad alone. Add in another 8,000 wounded in the capital, too). Considering the scale of the war, it's pretty huge.

Not in historical context. The conquest of France in 1940 is comparable--similar sized countries, populations and lengths of campaigns; yet the number of civilian casualties in France was far greater.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Tactitus

Not in historical context. The conquest of France in 1940 is comparable--similar sized countries, populations and lengths of campaigns; yet the number of civilian casualties in France was far greater.

You can't really compare with historical conflicts, the difference in tech is just too great.

Furthermore, I don't think a BARE MINIMUM of 5:1 (military:civilian) is very good, is it? (12-45k military deaths, 8-11k civilian)

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

I say we go for Corpus.

We should have finished the job in the civil war

Civil War - now there's a good idea.

Of course it could just be North vs South or East vs West, but they're probably about equally matched, so perhaps we could all just gang up on the Welsh, sack Cardiff and burn all the daffodils.

[Tactitus]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

You can't really compare with historical conflicts, the difference in tech is just too great.

Furthermore, I don't think a BARE MINIMUM of 5:1 (military:civilian) is very good, is it? (12-45k military deaths, 8-11k civilian)

Not very good compared to what? If you're dismissing historical comparisons then what the hell are you measuring it against--your guess of what you think the casualty rates ought to be?

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Tactitus

Not very good compared to what? If you're dismissing historical comparisons then what the hell are you measuring it against--your guess of what you think the casualty rates ought to be?

The boasted accuracy of the american forces?

Remember, that I'm arguing with

Originally Posted by Qdeathstar

We use percision guided bombs to kill terrorist who are only a few meters away from muslem temples. I'd hardly say thats heavy handed.

that kind of thing.

[midge5]

Originally Posted by Proteus

Civil War - now there's a good idea.

Of course it could just be North vs South or East vs West, but they're probably about equally matched, so perhaps we could all just gang up on the Welsh, sack Cardiff and burn all the daffodils.

The locals have been alerted, reinforcements are called in, you will never take us again!

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Proteus

Civil War - now there's a good idea.

Of course it could just be North vs South or East vs West, but they're probably about equally matched, so perhaps we could all just gang up on the Welsh, sack Cardiff and burn all the daffodils.

Cambridge vs Oxford.

Of course, it then depends on who can bring in Bristol, Durham, York and Warwick. We should probably get the northern two, which would give us a tactical advantage in terms of manouverability (we'd control the whole northern half of the country), but we'd be at a disadvantage to an Oxford schlieffen plan kind of affair, because of distances.

[acropolis]

Originally Posted by Qdeathstar

Impirical evidence please.

in early august (right before the month long vacation and right after his secret meeting with the al queda agent about the FBI's flagging system on domestic flights) he was told that 'al queda may try to hijack planes and crash them into buildings'. who knows how often he heard about potential terrorist plans.

it's certainly one thing if he had gotten a few every day since he'd been inaugurated. it would be another if this was the first warning he'd heard, and he just said 'bring em on' and headed for a well-deserved month's vacation.

Originally Posted by Qdeathstar

Their difference include

Gay rights
Economy (as far as flow goes) Rep. Top to bottom $ flow, Dem. Bottum only.
Welfare
Foreign affairs
ect ect.... those are just the big ones.

I'm not going to argue the first one.

The third one is silly. No republican or democrat has so much as mentioned welfare in years.

I'd like to know what the economy one is supposed to mean. Republicans like a top to bottom money flow maybe? Democrats like money flowing from the bottom to the 'bottum'? wtf?

But the fourth one is what I'm curious about. I'd like to hear one or two places where their are actual policy differences between the Democrats and republicans.

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

You can't really compare with historical conflicts, the difference in tech is just too great.

Furthermore, I don't think a BARE MINIMUM of 5:1 (military:civilian) is very good, is it? (12-45k military deaths, 8-11k civilian)

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the day it used to be 10:1 soldier to civilian (revolutionary etc.) by world war 2 it was 10:1 the other way.

I'm making stuff up.

[Dante Hicks]

Originally Posted by Qdeathstar

The BBC overstates civilian causulties. Id suggest nbc for better news..along with CNN. The BBC also no not follow generally accepted guidelines for what to show/not show on TV....

Do you have any evidence for the former point?

For the latter point, what do you mean? What does the BBC show which others agree not to show? If this is the case (which I'm dubious of) surely that would be somehting in their favour?

[Marilyn Manson]

Centrist.

[Phang]

Originally Posted by acropolis

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the day it used to be 10:1 soldier to civilian (revolutionary etc.) by world war 2 it was 10:1 the other way.

I'm making stuff up.

assuming accuracy, you can't really compare a revolution where the idea isto secure the country through comparitively bloodless means to total war with emphasis on massive bombings in times of conscription/massive military service

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Cambridge vs Oxford.

Of course, it then depends on who can bring in Bristol, Durham, York and Warwick. We should probably get the northern two, which would give us a tactical advantage in terms of manouverability (we'd control the whole northern half of the country), but we'd be at a disadvantage to an Oxford schlieffen plan kind of affair, because of distances.

Oxford would lose all their allies by insisting they allow Oxford Proctors to patrol their streets to search for Cambridge sympathisers, and after a few minor skirmishes and a short siege it would all end with tea and scones in the burnt-out shell of the Bodleian Library.

Sounds like a good plan to me.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Proteus

Oxford would lose all their allies by insisting they allow Oxford Proctors to patrol their streets to search for Cambridge sympathisers, and after a few minor skirmishes and a short siege it would all end with tea and scones in the burnt-out shell of the Bodleian Library.

Sounds like a good plan to me.

We should probably keep the Bod. It's less ugly than the UL, and would be a good place to keep political prisoners.

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

We should probably keep the Bod. It's less ugly than the UL, and would be a good place to keep political prisoners.

I would have thought the UL was ideal for use as a prison. It even has bars on the windows already, and has that whole "abandon hope all ye who enter here" air about it.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Proteus

I would have thought the UL was ideal for use as a prison. It even has bars on the windows already, and has that whole "abandon hope all ye who enter here" air about it.

It's also highly phallic, like all good prisons should be.

The main problem with using the UL as a prison is that it opens onto Clare on the one side, and there's a free run to the Cavendish on the other.

I wouldn't trust Clare to hold off any oxyford types for long (although they'd make excellent cannon fodder, methinks), especially not if they had armed themselves from the labs.

[G_frog]

The UL is pretty prominent from my window. If I had a rocket launcher, i could blow the top off it right now.

I shall not hesitate to do so if Oxford occupy it.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by G_frog

The UL is pretty prominent from my window. If I had a rocket launcher, i could blow the top off it right now.

I shall not hesitate to do so if Oxford occupy it.

There's decent security on the WSB, it might serve as a good base of operations. It's also covered fairly well by the engineering department.

[acropolis]

Originally Posted by Phang

assuming accuracy, you can't really compare a revolution where the idea isto secure the country through comparitively bloodless means to total war with emphasis on massive bombings in times of conscription/massive military service

my point was vis a vis tactitus' "dismissing historical comparisons" statement.

the bottom line is that you can have any given civilian/soldier casualty ratio and you can find a historical comparison that makes it obscenely low or obscenely high.

so, basically, historical comparisons are pointless here (as Dante would say, "You can prove anything with facts").

What should be asked is as follows: how many civilian deaths are reasonable, given our objective and ability (as jakiri would say, "but they're STALINIST crabs")?

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by acropolis

as Dante would say, "You can prove anything with facts"

THAT'S MY LINE. I'LL KILL YOU

[acropolis]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

THAT'S MY LINE. I'LL KILL YOU

i gave you your line too you lying bitch

PS: search finds i used it once (in that post)
u used it twice
nod used it twice
jammers used it once
dante used it once

[queball]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

It's also highly phallic, like all good prisons should be.

The main problem with using the UL as a prison is that it opens onto Clare on the one side, and there's a free run to the Cavendish on the other.

I wouldn't trust Clare to hold off any oxyford types for long (although they'd make excellent cannon fodder, methinks), especially not if they had armed themselves from the labs.

More worryingly, they might make it to the Sidgwick site and the philosophy faculty. And it's about thirty metres away from my window.

[Leshy]

According to your answers, your political philosophy is on the border of left-liberal and libertarian.

100% and 50%.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by queball

More worryingly, they might make it to the Sidgwick site and the philosophy faculty. And it's about thirty metres away from my window.

Well, assuming you can get a good crossfire set up, we can hold the line at Queen's Road, falling back to prepared positions in Trinity and John's if necessary.

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

It's also highly phallic, like all good prisons should be.

The main problem with using the UL as a prison is that it opens onto Clare on the one side, and there's a free run to the Cavendish on the other.

I wouldn't trust Clare to hold off any oxyford types for long (although they'd make excellent cannon fodder, methinks), especially not if they had armed themselves from the labs.

It's also adjacent to part of Trinity, and I suspect the greedy Oxford types would be compelled by avarice to go there first in order to steal our money. At that point, of course, we'd detonate Burrell's Field. I'm sure no one would miss it.

Originally Posted by G_frog

The UL is pretty prominent from my window. If I had a rocket launcher, i could blow the top off it right now.

I shall not hesitate to do so if Oxford occupy it.

I don't think there's much chance of that. I can't imagine anyone willingly barricading themselves inside the UL. Even if they do (you never know with these crazy Oxonians), we could just lock them in and wait for them to go insane.

[Phang]

Originally Posted by acropolis

as jakiri would say, "but they're STALINIST crabs"

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Proteus

It's also adjacent to part of Trinity, and I suspect the greedy Oxford types would be compelled by avarice to go there first in order to steal our money. At that point, of course, we'd detonate Burrell's Field. I'm sure no one would miss it.

The university website has provided me with this fine map, complete with Oxford's direction of attack (The Big Red Arrow). I suspect they know more than we think.

Originally Posted by Proteus

I don't think there's much chance of that. I can't imagine anyone willingly barricading themselves inside the UL. Even if they do (you never know with these crazy Oxonians), we could just lock them in and wait for them to go insane.

Giles and I have been trained in the art of discovering hidden folk in the UL, so we'd be the perfect ones to lead teams into sweep the building.

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

The university website has provided me with this fine map, complete with Oxford's direction of attack (The Big Red Arrow). I suspect they know more than we think.

Well, if that's where they're planning to attack, we don't need to worry. They don't appear to be aiming for any traffic lights, so they'll all be killed by the crazy Cambridge motorists.

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Giles and I have been trained in the art of discovering hidden folk in the UL, so we'd be the perfect ones to lead teams into sweep the building.

They'll probably be in the basement, trying to find pornographic books that aren't on the main shelves.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Proteus

Well, if that's where they're planning to attack, we don't need to worry. They don't appear to be aiming for any traffic lights, so they'll all be killed by the crazy Cambridge motorists.

Eventually, the bodies will pile up to create a safe crossing. I advise hidden positions in the backs, to further wittle their numbers down before we arrive to the choke points at the bridges.

Originally Posted by Proteus

They'll probably be in the basement, trying to find pornographic books that aren't on the main shelves.

You suspect they've acquired the ability to read? This will be trickier than I imagined. We must find this leak at once, and plug it before all is lost.

[Snurx]

Left-liberal 100%/20%.

Or something.

ps go mark!

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Eventually, the bodies will pile up to create a safe crossing. I advise hidden positions in the backs, to further wittle their numbers down before we arrive to the choke points at the bridges.

We could just destroy the bridges. Granted, we'll lose a bunch of colleges, including Magdalene, half of John's and half of Queens', but then I never did like those modern buildings anyway.

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

You suspect they've acquired the ability to read? This will be trickier than I imagined. We must find this leak at once, and plug it before all is lost.

They'll have converted the UL staff to their evil cause (along with any foolish students who happen to be in the UL on the day of their attack), and will be using their minions' superior knowledge to surmount their own obvious intellectual disabilities.

[Qdeathstar]

"About 10,000 (By May of last year, there were over a thousand known civilian deaths and nearly a thousand more suspected in Baghdad alone. Add in another 8,000 wounded in the capital, too). Considering the scale of the war, it's pretty huge."

Credible news artical please. No suppositions, or accounts from the taliban/al-quaeda.

Anyone can guess something, it has nothing at all to do with wether its true or not, so you cant prove empircally that Bush knew (i dont think he did, they might have had clues, different organizations, but they werent put together well enough to come up with any definative clues)

Additionally, Clinton did know that al-qeada was building massive training camps in afganistan. All he did was launch a couple of missiles into afganistan=not effective.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Qdeathstar

Credible news artical please. No suppositions, or accounts from the taliban/al-quaeda.

Credible research center good enough?

No?

How about this place?

Originally Posted by Qdeathstar

Anyone can guess something, it has nothing at all to do with wether its true or not, so you cant prove empircally that Bush knew (i dont think he did, they might have had clues, different organizations, but they werent put together well enough to come up with any definative clues)

Additionally, Clinton did know that al-qeada was building massive training camps in afganistan. All he did was launch a couple of missiles into afganistan=not effective.

Read acropolis's post.

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by Qdeathstar

"About 10,000 (By May of last year, there were over a thousand known civilian deaths and nearly a thousand more suspected in Baghdad alone. Add in another 8,000 wounded in the capital, too). Considering the scale of the war, it's pretty huge."

Credible news artical please. No suppositions, or accounts from the taliban/al-quaeda.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/3223523.stm

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Proteus

We could just destroy the bridges. Granted, we'll lose a bunch of colleges, including Magdalene, half of John's and half of Queens', but then I never did like those modern buildings anyway.

They can take the colleges. Whos cares? We can also booby trap them, and the John's bridge is a killing zone.

Originally Posted by Proteus

They'll have converted the UL staff to their evil cause (along with any foolish students who happen to be in the UL on the day of their attack), and will be using their minions' superior knowledge to surmount their own obvious intellectual disabilities.

We all know that Oxford types are sinister. From there, it's merely a small logical step to assuming that, once they enter the building, they will go LEFT.

Hence, I believe they will be found in the East Asian Reading Room, and if they decide to move upwards, in molecular chemistry.

[Leshy]

If the USA had David Palmer as their president, the terrorist attacks would have been thwarted in just under a day.

True story!

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by Proteus

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/3223523.stm

The BBC is just a commie pinko pamphlet duder.

[Intrepid00]

If true, that is actually a very small number for a war.

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

They can take the colleges. Whos cares? We can also booby trap them, and the John's bridge is a killing zone.

I'd be in favour of booby trapping them even if we don't have a war against Oxford, and any plan that involves death and John's students is fine by me.

Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

We all know that Oxford types are sinister. From there, it's merely a small logical step to assuming that, once they enter the building, they will go LEFT.

Hence, I believe they will be found in the East Asian Reading Room, and if they decide to move upwards, in molecular chemistry.

You're assuming, of course, that they can tell left from right. It seems to me just as likely that they'd end up in the Map Room (which wouldn't be much of a problem, as they wouldn't know how to use the maps), from where they'd probably be drawn to the Tea Room by the aroma of hot beverages and savoury snacks. Poisoning the tea would seem like a good plan (and would have the added bonus of killing most of the UL staff).

[Qdeathstar]

4k isnt that bad.. How many of them were used as body-shields. He know for a fact he used that practice in the first war. Bringing civilians to military targets... he was an evil person.

In addition, thats no where near your ten thousands. The site that you gave me said around 1000.. then added 1k here and there..

The problem with those is that they were survey at iraqi hospitals.. so no entirely credible..

[MrL_JaKiri]

I think the best plan is what I'm doing now.

Sitting back in a dressing gown, drinking a very large gin and tonic.