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Unread 13 Sep 2006, 22:09   #51
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

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You guys really think for 1 second that exi wont win?
Seeing as only 10 or so members from the eXi core are starting out, and the rest could be anyone as far as we know, you shouldn't be so certain.
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Unread 13 Sep 2006, 22:13   #52
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how many exi core started out last round?
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

1)omen
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

1) LCH
2) Exilition
3) Omen
4) Vengeance
5) xVx

Probably as accurate as Emmanuel Adebayor's shooting but hey...
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Unread 14 Sep 2006, 01:44   #55
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

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Due to major Ali-related political ****-ups last round, the rest of the Subh HC quit and are forming a new alliance. Ali's the CEO of Subh, he's appointed a new HC team. Both alliances will play. I doubt either will finish top 10.
Ali related? Speaking when you have zero knowledge on a subject is usually not a good idea
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

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In what form are ascendancy playing?

I havent asked around - at all. jerome, entertain me
For the benefit of all and sundry who have never been in ascendancy, ascendancy works thusly. Ascendancy has members. Those members do whatever they want, frequently in conjunction with other members of ascendancy. Ascendancy has no officers. Ascendancy sometimes has HC, last round this was jerome who pretty much got the job due to the fact he was bothered signing up ascendancy ingame. Ascendancy has a bot but because heartless has a less reliable connection than jester it's not on quite as much these days. Ascendancy recruits people through the simple "ask whoever you want but they better not be shit" policy. I think that covers the basics. If jer tries to change anything I'll disembowel him with some form of rusty trowel.
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

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Due to major Ali-related political ****-ups last round, the rest of the Subh HC quit and are forming a new alliance. Ali's the CEO of Subh, he's appointed a new HC team. Both alliances will play. I doubt either will finish top 10.
Do come back and post when you have the full facts on Subh and last round
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Unread 14 Sep 2006, 03:36   #58
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

i find it interesting that people have comletely discarded ROCK from the top 10 even tho they were 7th last round and have been consistently improving since r14
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

1) Whoever I am playing with.
2+) Everyone else!

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Re: Round 19 Predictions

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i find it interesting that people have comletely discarded ROCK from the top 10 even tho they were 7th last round and have been consistently improving since r14
Timeline, =p...<3...ROCK RULES!!

1.Angels
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Just pure guess...but most replies are i think
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Unread 14 Sep 2006, 07:59   #61
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

1)Omen
2)Angels
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

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Ali related? Speaking when you have zero knowledge on a subject is usually not a good idea
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Do come back and post when you have the full facts on Subh and last round
Anyone want to give me a name of the person that handled your politics and hence made subh look like complete idiots?

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Re: Round 19 Predictions

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Ali related? Speaking when you have zero knowledge on a subject is usually not a good idea
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Do come back and post when you have the full facts on Subh and last round
Oh I'm sorry. I guess that direct quotes from your ex-HCs aren't enough for some....
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Unread 14 Sep 2006, 11:21   #64
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

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Oh I'm sorry. I guess that direct quotes from your ex-HCs aren't enough for some....
Uhm. Vasquin played last round under the Omen banner. For now, he is in the high command team appointed for the coming round for SubH. Is this what you didn't mean? I would personally cast a vote on a large part of what you call a political would go to a person definately not Ali. Ali can probably be put on blame for not being around enough to prevent certain people from coming up with their own ideologies, or blowing things out of proportion.
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

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Uhm. Vasquin played last round under the Omen banner. For now, he is in the high command team appointed for the coming round for SubH. Is this what you didn't mean? I would personally cast a vote on a large part of what you call a political would go to a person definately not Ali. Ali can probably be put on blame for not being around enough to prevent certain people from coming up with their own ideologies, or blowing things out of proportion.
I can't say I was particularly aware of Vasquin's origins - I haven't played a round with Omen. As I said before, I'm going on what the ex-HC team of Subh said. They may choose to publically comment at some point, they may not. Either way, I consider it damning that the entire HC team of Round 17 Subh has walked out.
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

Definately. It's a real puzzle to me, but then again certain outside SubH sources have shed some light towards some high command staff's descisions too. I used to dig it out a lot. So, what's the role of Apophis in this puzzle?

I'd definately like to hear what the ex-SubH high commander has said, they've all been rather dodgy to myself. I've mainly relied on statements from people involved with the creation and work of the SEX block.
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

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i find it interesting that people have comletely discarded ROCK from the top 10 even tho they were 7th last round and have been consistently improving since r14
I think alliance limits may have an effect...

And even though 1up have fallen out of the picture, they have been replaced by VisioN, TGV and LCH, with Angels promising a resurgence and VGN continuing to prove themselves a top 10 stalwart.

I think that some people just find it difficult to justify putting rock ahead of these other alliances right now. I'm sure round circumstances will give them a chance though.
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

1.Omen
2.ND
3.Exi
4.LCH
5.Post|Mortum
6.Angles
7.Subh
8.vision
9.tof
10.f-crew

With no 1up and Exi not at full strength and ND back on the increase i can see omen, ND and Exi finnishing top 3 atm i cant see anyone els fighting for that place

Next few are tricky as a few could finnish bettween rank 4 and 7. LCH have always been a good alliance and i see no change this round lets just hope they can be than a one hit wonder
I come to 5th where i put the newly formed alliance Post|Mortum as thats where we expect to finnish, top 5 in its first round (there'll be a post in recuitment soon)

Angles and Subh have always been close to each other but after the leaving of vital members from subh they are no where near as good as previous rounds so i see angles finnishing above them, then the rest could be between about 4 alliances but tof f-crew always finnish in the top 10 or there abouts
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

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I think alliance limits may have an effect...

And even though 1up have fallen out of the picture, they have been replaced by VisioN, TGV and LCH, with Angels promising a resurgence and VGN continuing to prove themselves a top 10 stalwart.

I think that some people just find it difficult to justify putting rock ahead of these other alliances right now. I'm sure round circumstances will give them a chance though.
well wether we finish top 5 top 10 or top 50 doesnt bother us we play for our members and not for ranks
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how many exi core started out last round?
without making any kind of check, based on a pure gut feeling ~40 (can't be far off)
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

eXiliton will win, thats my prediction
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well wether we finish top 5 top 10 or top 50 doesnt bother us we play for our members and not for ranks
And that's another reason that people may not be putting you in the top 10.

I'm not judging either play method, I'm just explaining why people find it more difficult to believe rock will finish t10, given the information available atm.
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

So with no political posturing going on atm, with 1-ups hard-core loose and fancy free for one round, subh in a rebuild, and no-one atm making any declarations as to wether they are prepared to constantly defend Elviz's planet if he decides to play, there is no way i would make a prediction atm.
You people are braver than i am.

Drag your memories back to when Fury stopped playing, Legion stopped playing, Elysium stopped playing - and concider the rounds after, all i can see is a round that will be a closely run thing atm.
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Re: Round 19 Predictions

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eXilition will win the round.
Announcing they wont play with a full memberbase, nor will they play hardcore, is so not eXi afaik. Though, this is probably the only (definately easiest) way for them to actually win two rounds in a row. Tagging up only half their members from the start and acting as 1up in r17 with the others, leaving them untagged and keeping all eXi's out of war that way.
This is ofc just one of my crazy thoughts, and as im not keeping an eye on anything pa related these days, my assumption may as well be impossible for some reason, so dont shoot me if im wrong, but at least give it a thought.
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eXilition won't win as I left netgamers when the ticks stopped and haven't come back. ha!

But actually yer, what I've heard a lot of selfish players have been got rid of and most likely r13/r15 _core_ will attempt to play under a rather interesting command! Tho that's a great idea btw Satyr, but now eX can't use it as you told everyone :/
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exi will go for the win. its the thing that they are missing. they are a good alliance, they have won rounds, but as everyone keeps telling them (dont think i agree with it though) they have to win two consecutive rounds to go on the "great alliances" wall

Though i hope that omen/lch/angels/nd/vision/whoeverelseisplaying wont let them grab an easy victory (as 1up did r17).

but as i see it, exi/omen/lch will be top3 alliances, which one will be #1 you can never know though
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The top 10 alliances are way to hard to predict,

Omen, LCH, Angels, in any order
4. Tof
5. Subh
6. Vsn
7. eXi
8. xVx
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of course my prediction and $2 will buy you a cup of coffee... What the heck do I know???
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Seeing as only 10 or so members from the eXi core are starting out, and the rest could be anyone as far as we know, you shouldn't be so certain.

Well I will pop back at the end of the round and we will see eh?

The only thing stopping exi from being 'better' than 1up, is that they havent played and won two consecutive rounds.

Anyone who thinks exi really wont try for that, is almost certainly drunk.

Exi will win the round, and tahts that.
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#1 Omen
#2 Lch
#3 Angels
#4 ToF
#5 NewDawn

is my guess..
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That's two exi now who have completely discounted themselves out of possibly winning the round. Pulling nearly the same scenario as 1up did ages ago.

"No... we can't win!"
"We're only playing with a small portion of our members!"

Pardon my paranoia, but I think Forest is right here
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think what u want there will always be such rumours going around..
that is the top #5 i think will be..
tho perhaps post|mortem might get in there.. hmm forgot about them
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think what u want there will always be such rumours going around..
that is the top #5 i think will be..
tho perhaps post|mortem might get in there.. hmm forgot about them
That was said too!!! although maybe not the part about post|mortem. With a bunch of new/oldies coming in, and the split of 1up. This'll be a pain to accurately predict I think.

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And that's another reason that people may not be putting you in the top 10.

I'm not judging either play method, I'm just explaining why people find it more difficult to believe rock will finish t10, given the information available atm.
well we have always played that way and as timeline stated we have improved on the alliance rankings every rd since rd 14 , still as long as we have fun then we're happy
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Well I will pop back at the end of the round and we will see eh?

The only thing stopping exi from being 'better' than 1up, is that they havent played and won two consecutive rounds.

Anyone who thinks exi really wont try for that, is almost certainly drunk.

Exi will win the round, and tahts that.
the 1up AD bandwagon is becomming a bit repetetive with this "exi arent great because they havent played 2 rounds" shit. for god sake give it a rest
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the 1up AD bandwagon is becomming a bit repetetive with this "exi arent great because they havent played 2 rounds" shit. for god sake give it a rest
I havent been 1up for 3 rounds, infact, I was Omen last round.

And its quite clearly a fact that exi need to acheive the same as 1up to be talked about as great as them.

the whole of pa is aware of that. Exi too know it, form the people ove spoken to.

Dont think for one minute they wont try and put the argument to rest.
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1. exi
2. omen
3. nd
4-7 xVx/lch/angels/vision (in some order)
...big score difference...
8. vgn
9. subh
10. tof

a. Gotta be dumb to believe exi won´t play for #1
b. New alliances and old ones returning will have difficulties in finding a top-noch 65 members to fight for #1, therefor close to imposible to finish #1(only one or two alliance able to achieve that only, not really the case here)
c. It will be interesting to watch so many alliances hungry for performance, r19 PA will probably have more wars(probably short ones) and a bit more planets than precedent rounds.
d. Very important: stats changes(admins^^). Careful with betas, speedrounds etc, or else you´ll have again one happy race and 3 loser races, which kinda makes ppl leave.

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I havent been 1up for 3 rounds, infact, I was Omen last round.

And its quite clearly a fact that exi need to acheive the same as 1up to be talked about as great as them.

the whole of pa is aware of that. Exi too know it, form the people ove spoken to.

Dont think for one minute they wont try and put the argument to rest.
gone so long and still influenced with the 1up AD PR soul... :P
i would say that beating a "superpower"(u state 1up as such) 3 times in the 3 rounds the ally play would make us equal in performance as 1up. And when u state that they are a superpower then i guess in my eyes maby so are we...

the whole of pa is not aware of ur point of view forest.. alot would argue against it.. if u'd play 1 round in eXi (the way we played before upcomming round) and saw how stressfull and hardcore we played u would have understood why we take a round break.. simply to relax and to get back to reality.. dont really see why that makes us lesser than 1up....
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Tho that's a great idea btw Satyr, but now eX can't use it as you told everyone :/
nm HK, the entire universe knew 1up wasnt fully tagged r17 and nobody did anything either ^^ What makes u think u guys wont get away with it
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will be a fun round.. everyone expecting us to masstag in the end hehe and then omg u cheated u didnt tag up with the players u didnt have
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nm HK, the entire universe knew 1up wasnt fully tagged r17 and nobody did anything either ^^ What makes u think u guys wont get away with it
That'd be awesome if eX could do 4 out of 4. Still, for all eXis pwning 1up 3 out of 3 times beats winning 2 consecutive rounds. In fact I honestly doubt eX would aim for top1 for just that reason. Of course top alliances will do everything to end as high as possible and so will eX in r19 but don't overestimate the necessity of "beating 1up in the 2 round in a row game". eX has beaten 1up in blockwars and in 1on1 and in my humble opinion the discussion about the best r13-18 alliance was over when 1up started to hit subh in r18. I still have to give credit to 1up as they've been the second best alliance during the whole period and given eX a lot of problems.

Good luck to everyone in round 19 and may the winner win it through great wars not fencesitting. As history has proven only the strongest warmongers will dominate in the end.
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Its all about Fr0sten and PackWolf baby!
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I hear Fr0sten got to borrow the exil players not playing hardcore :-P
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nm HK, the entire universe knew 1up wasnt fully tagged r17 and nobody did anything either ^^ What makes u think u guys wont get away with it
As has been explained before, half the issue is that both alliances ran out of reasons to want to spend a lot of time competing to win a long time ago.
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Oh, I will make one prediction.

If eXi bring any form of reasonable strength (ie more than what, 20 people?) to the table and get anywhere near the top, they will need to be hit by a massively overwhelming force.

Self interest and sheer shortsightedness will prevent this from happening. The alliances will probably decide that hitting eXi gals will work, or maybe they'll get threatened by eX and back down, or maybe they'll not trust the others to go in (maybe because they're hoping to avoid doing any of the work themselves) and so refuse to join in any first step.

And then eXi will roflol and win.
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The top 10 alliances are way to hard to predict,

Omen, LCH, Angels, in any order
4. Tof
5. Subh
6. Vsn
7. eXi
8. xVx
9. SiN
10. TGV
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of course my prediction and $2 will buy you a cup of coffee... What the heck do I know???
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gone so long and still influenced with the 1up AD PR soul... :P
i would say that beating a "superpower"(u state 1up as such) 3 times in the 3 rounds the ally play would make us equal in performance as 1up. And when u state that they are a superpower then i guess in my eyes maby so are we...

the whole of pa is not aware of ur point of view forest.. alot would argue against it.. if u'd play 1 round in eXi (the way we played before upcomming round) and saw how stressfull and hardcore we played u would have understood why we take a round break.. simply to relax and to get back to reality.. dont really see why that makes us lesser than 1up....
You say you NEED to take a break, because of how hard you play. But 1up plays just as hard and doesnt take that break, but plays the next round knowing that its ggonna be HARDER. Exi are now making that step.

I would also say that exi are at least equal in performance and ability with 1up. But neither alliance can claim to be better.
If exil play a consecutive round, and win, they can make the claim to be greater than 1up.

And no-one is gonna be fooled that you wont take that chance.

Saying you will play understrength, is just setting it up so that if you win you can say 'yes we are the greatest', and if you dont win you can say 'but we werent at full strength'.

Exi will play to win, and I am sure they will win.

The ranks below will be decided on whoever sides with Exi on there quest to get top.
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bah wish peeps would start taking us for the noobs we really are.. just look at me and HK.. proof enough :P
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bah wish peeps would start taking us for the noobs we really are.. just look at me and HK.. proof enough :P

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Your not a noob :p
That's almost like people saying that "Forest is not a retard :p"

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