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Unread 18 Apr 2006, 08:23   #1
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are 1 up playing this rd

seems strange to see them so low down the rankings , are they not playing seriously this rd or just trying to stay out of top 5 till after tick 120
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seems strange to see them so low down the rankings , are they not playing seriously this rd or just trying to stay out of top 5 till after tick 120
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seems strange to see them so low down the rankings , are they not playing seriously this rd or just trying to stay out of top 5 till after tick 120
They're waiting until their cruiser fleets are rdy
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

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seems strange to see them so low down the rankings , are they not playing seriously this rd or just trying to stay out of top 5 till after tick 120
what's special about tick 120?
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

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what's special about tick 120?
I'm guessing it's either to do with the alliance limit, or some point where cruisers/battleships/jpgs are available.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

I assume they're doing what eXilition did in round 15, and adding people to the alliance tag as they need defence or are sending defence.
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It's when shit alliances can start recruiting past 60, I think.
That's what happens when PA-Team makes such a rediculous rule in the first place
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

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They're waiting until their cruiser fleets are rdy

doubt it since they got pure FR BG(s).
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doubt it since they got pure FR BG(s).
We do? Thats a ****ing great idea - why didn't we think of it
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We do? Thats a ****ing great idea - why didn't we think of it
Ohh but he just claims you DID think of it !!
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Ohh but he just claims you DID think of it !!
Hmm - mebbe then. I've been sleeping a lot lately.
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It's when shit alliances can start recruiting past 60, I think.
Any alliance can recruit over the initial 60 members limit. Playing to the rules does not make an alliance any worse than any other.
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They are trying to pull an Ascendancy.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

Did he accuse someone of not playing in the rules?
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Any alliance can recruit over the initial 60 members limit. Playing to the rules does not make an alliance any worse than any other.
Correct, however the rule about alliancelimits is rubbish (imo)...
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They are trying to pull an Ascendancy.
How can anyone 'pull an ascendancy' with the XP forumla as it is?
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Any alliance can recruit over the initial 60 members limit. Playing to the rules does not make an alliance any worse than any other.
Any alliance can't really. You expect 1up to drop out of the t5 at all this round?

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Only the shit ones can.
Kinda like ND last round then (the ended #7 and therefor were able to recruit more members then the initial top5 limit). I'm not saying ND did (they didn't) but they however had the ability to.
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the only reason ND dropped out of the t5 was because they didnt recruit and they kicked a t50 member for breaking alliance rules.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

Or, then, they're doing what's been done before and aren't putting members into their tag until they need to. I suppose that can be found "useful" to an extent.
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I assume they're doing what eXilition did in round 15, and adding people to the alliance tag as they need defence or are sending defence.
that would involve some kind of planning/activity/organisation ..... heh.
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the only reason ND dropped out of the t5 was because they didnt recruit and they kicked a t50 member for breaking alliance rules.
Could be, yet my point still stands.
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it's just too blatant that 1up have merged with exilition into omen !
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Mazzelar stop spamming useful comments. Oh wait...damn...
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Ah NoS. First they told us they didn't exist and we believed them. Unfortunately then they started believing they didn't exist and they vanished. Rene was right
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last round is strange as Ascendancy suddenly appeared out of nowhere in the #1 spot 40 million points clear and that on its own knocked the stuffing out of lots of alliances, as no one had any reason to play because the win had already been decided.
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last round is strange as Ascendancy suddenly appeared out of nowhere in the #1 spot 40 million points clear and that on its own knocked the stuffing out of lots of alliances, as no one had any reason to play because the win had already been decided.
This works great if, like last round, it's nearly impossible to fight an XP alliance. If you're value based, then reducing a gap of 40 mill is easy ("relatively ofc") ... you just gotta roid them and kill their fleets (good old blocking).

A tactic which is useless against an XP alliance. Only remote thing you can do is defend EACH target they're hitting, which is impossible for 1 alliance to handle, because they'll just switch to another alliance they can raid easily.
And even then, all you do is damage control. It's not like you greatly reduce their score.
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This works great if, like last round, it's nearly impossible to fight an XP alliance. If you're value based, then reducing a gap of 40 mill is easy ("relatively ofc") ... you just gotta roid them and kill their fleets (good old blocking).

A tactic which is useless against an XP alliance. Only remote thing you can do is defend EACH target they're hitting, which is impossible for 1 alliance to handle, because they'll just switch to another alliance they can raid easily.
And even then, all you do is damage control. It's not like you greatly reduce their score.
No alliance ever really has their score reduced absolutely anymore. They just get their growth reduced to sub 2% or so.
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No alliance ever really has their score reduced absolutely anymore. They just get their growth reduced to sub 2% or so.
2 rounds ago I lost 80% of my fleet (but my FR's) and thereby lost like alot value and alot score.

If you kill someone's fleet (value), you reduce his score (not his XP).
Maybe in general it's hard to reduce the score of an alliance, but by killing their value you'll greatly increase the possibility that you can close the gap fast.

Killing fleets of XP players is useless since they only need little ships to gain XP. Reducing their value actually increased their next XP gain.
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2 rounds ago I lost 80% of my fleet (but my FR's) and thereby lost like alot value and alot score.

If you kill someone's fleet (value), you reduce his score (not his XP).
Maybe in general it's hard to reduce the score of an alliance, but by killing their value you'll greatly increase the possibility that you can close the gap fast.
That was what I said...

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Only up to a point. I had a few dodgy days when I didn't have enough resources to rebuild my fleet fully and could only send 2 fleets out. Other days when it was only barely enough to send 3 fleets and I had to reduce what I could hit.
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How can anyone 'pull an ascendancy' with the XP forumla as it is?
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eXilition did that. Remember teh lite?
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Being out of tag doesn't make you less strong. It actually draws more attention in the case of 1up as this thread goes to prove.

Ascendancy used not having people in tag to exploit the fact no-one had thought of the simple yet telling tactics of 'XP whoring' and to keep them well away from the top until it was too late for anyone to wise up to the tactic or make a difference to thier score of any real significance. Given that this scenario is impossible this round the two cannot be compared. Thus, 1up could not possibly be 'pulling an ascendancy'. Mkay?
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2 rounds ago I lost 80% of my fleet (but my FR's) and thereby lost like alot value and alot score.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd

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Originally Posted by jerome
on a totally unrelated note how do you do those little double <-ey things? or are they automatically featured on modern keyboards these days and i'm just behind the times now?
Use synergy and have different key mappings on your windows box and linux box. It's very annoying, particularly when you know you have the right keymapping on each box and can't fix it

It's supposed to be a greater than.
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<@JBG> by the way is mazzelaar a community account that everyone in 1up logs into when they're feeling angry?

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mazzelaar has always reminded me of a hungry hungry hippo. Except instead of eating marbles he just bites the heads off new AD posters
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