Congratulations eXilition

[NitinA]

Originally Posted by The Real Arfy

Actually that isn't true for 1up PNAPs in the slightest. As far as I know, we've never cancelled an agreement without due cause.

But your P NAPs do state (in the welcome message when you get one) that clause.

-NitinA

[The Real Arfy]

Originally Posted by NitinA

But your P NAPs do state (in the welcome message when you get one) that clause.

-NitinA

Sure - but as I said not without due cause. Due cause being something along the lines of said planet roiding us. Not "we have no targets left so lets break that dude's NAP".

[Pilgrim]

Originally Posted by robban1

well looks like if enough ppl say exi cheats to win, its true... just look who keeps nagging about it, same mofos as usual btw the same dudes that say im an retard for saying the same thing about 1up..

you guys bore me :/

So true. It never takes long until people account an allys victory on cheating.

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by NitinA

But your P NAPs do state (in the welcome message when you get one) that clause.

-NitinA

We also give the option of cancellable or permenant NAPs. If you choose a permanent NAP then 1up will not break it unless you break the terms of the NAP. In our history we have never broken a planet NAP without it being violated first.

[Travler]

Originally Posted by Kargool

NoS was never ranked 1st in r13.

I'm sorry that your memory has failed. NoS was ranked #1 for just a short time once Wolfpack was knocked out of the #1 spot. This is when eXi decided to end the NAP.

PS. How many times are you going to be wrong Kargool?

[Travler]

Originally Posted by mazzelaar

We also give the option of cancellable or permenant NAPs. If you choose a permanent NAP then 1up will not break it unless you break the terms of the NAP. In our history we have never broken a planet NAP without it being violated first.

eXi cannot say the same. All they can do is neg rep me for pointing out the obvious.

Look eXi, it's not my fault that you as an alliance like to backstab and turn on your ally's. All I did was highlight it. Just keep those red blobs comming. It reaffirms that I struck a nerve and the truth.

[KweKweK]

Originally Posted by Travler

eXi cannot say the same. All they can do is neg rep me for pointing out the obvious.

Look eXi, it's not my fault that you as an alliance like to backstab and turn on your ally's. All I did was highlight it. Just keep those red blobs comming. It reaffirms that I struck a nerve and the truth.

Gsus christ, you dair to speak of NoS beeing allies etc? May I remind you that NoS was "allied" with the whole bloody universe except Wolfpack. Talk about a fence stuck up in someones ass for christ sake. Sitting out the main war by napping both side A and B is what I call beeing a bullshit ally. I'm just stunned that you seem surprised for cancelling that NAP. Just my 2 cents on your comment.

[Travler]

Originally Posted by KweKweK

Gsus christ, you dair to speak of NoS beeing allies etc? May I remind you that NoS was "allied" with the whole bloody universe except Wolfpack. Talk about a fence stuck up in someones ass for christ sake. Sitting out the main war by napping both side A and B is what I call beeing a bullshit ally. I'm just stunned that you seem surprised for cancelling that NAP. Just my 2 cents on your comment.

But the way the NAP was cancelled was bad form. NoS got attacked by at least eXi and Angels even though NoS had a NAP with eXi. Many of our players were stunned and even HC was like "Looks like they have ended the NAP."

So what if NoS sat on the fence? They kept their word at least which is more than ANYONE CAN EVER SAY ABOUT eXi.

[Kargool]

Originally Posted by KweKweK

Gsus christ, you dair to speak of NoS beeing allies etc? May I remind you that NoS was "allied" with the whole bloody universe except Wolfpack. Talk about a fence stuck up in someones ass for christ sake. Sitting out the main war by napping both side A and B is what I call beeing a bullshit ally. I'm just stunned that you seem surprised for cancelling that NAP. Just my 2 cents on your comment.

NoS was not napped with the entire universe. Infact we planettargeted 4 alliances on some raids. VGN, Vision, Veneratio and HR.

While I agree that this may not have been an daring enterprise, we still recived a considerable amount of incs due to this.

[Kargool]

Originally Posted by Travler

I'm sorry that your memory has failed. NoS was ranked #1 for just a short time once Wolfpack was knocked out of the #1 spot. This is when eXi decided to end the NAP.

PS. How many times are you going to be wrong Kargool?

Im amused by your inadequate memory.

eXi never directly broke the nap. There was an "incident" but the nap wasnt canceled.

Angels did however. And a infinite amount of ToF planets.


The nap with eXi started in week 4 or 5 of the round and lasted throughout the whole round.

[furball]

Originally Posted by Travler

Look eXi, it's not my fault that you as an alliance like to backstab and turn on your ally's. All I did was highlight it. Just keep those red blobs comming. It reaffirms that I struck a nerve and the truth.

Or that you're wrong....


In my experience eXilition have always been very good allies to have. In Round 15 they kept to their word and never sent any fleets Vengeance's way - and if one did accidentally turn up due to us accepting a new member, it was swiftly recalled. Professionalism, that's all it is guys. (the same can be said for 1up)

Originally Posted by Kargool

NoS was not napped with the entire universe. Infact we planettargeted 4 alliances on some raids. VGN, Vision, Veneratio and HR.

While I agree that this may not have been an daring enterprise, we still recived a considerable amount of incs due to this.

I'm not bloody suprised you received all those incs

VGN and HR were part of the 1up block by the end of that round - and I distinctly recall a huge meeting with about 2 weeks to go where we wanted to twat you guys silly for taking advantage of our situation.

OH WELL, looks like r14 sorted all that out anyway

[rnd|One]

Congrats eX! Impressive playing. To be able to muster a force to be reckoned with in PA that is not half-baked and rivals any given winning alliance of previous rounds is an achievement in itself. Then to repeat such an ordeal is hall of fame material.

[Achilles]

My God, it's true. He lives

[Kargool]

Originally Posted by furball

I'm not bloody suprised you received all those incs

VGN and HR were part of the 1up block by the end of that round - and I distinctly recall a huge meeting with about 2 weeks to go where we wanted to twat you guys silly for taking advantage of our situation.

OH WELL, looks like r14 sorted all that out anyway

R14 saw a NoS without me, Nadar, Heru (active atleast) and an entire NoS HC using more time on WoW than PA so I think it was more the fact that most officers left NoS than the anger from the round before that made NoS crash and burn.

HR did actually nap us for a while 24 hours, but then suddenly decided to attack us again.

Now the naps that NoS's HC sat in place would eventually have to ride on their responsibility and not the members of the alliance. The members of the alliance can voice to disagree being napped to whomever they want, but in the end its the members duty to be loyal to the alliance or leave the alliance.

[jerome]

Originally Posted by rnd|One

Congrats eX! Impressive playing. To be able to muster a force to be reckoned with in PA that is not half-baked and rivals any given winning alliance of previous rounds is an achievement in itself. Then to repeat such an ordeal is hall of fame material.

i think it's more a testament to how awful the alliances are these days as the exilition of current really is a lot less impressive than previous rounds.



edit: IS, is a lot less impressive, not isn't!

[jerome]

actually it's not that surprising at all as every alliance is presumably deteoriating in quality due to the game being utterly wank, tedious and effortwhile or were just never good at all!

[MaxMilliaN]

big thread with same old discussions.

"eXi cant play round after round like 1up and win"
"1up never wins when eXi is around"

imo its the alliance hc choice to play how many rounds they want. if you ask me who is better 1up or exi i say eXi, since we yet have to see 1up beat eXi and its now 3-0 in favour to eXi.

and funny to see 1up now on a crusade against Subh for not being their puppet. GJ subh, you decide your alliance road, finallly to see an alliance with balls and not just being a brainless 1up drone.

go eXi go Omen!

edit: oh yea,obviously Phil still sux and his therapy sessions havent paid off

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by jerome

deteoriating in quality due to the game being utterly wank, tedious and effortwhile

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by MaxMilliaN

imo its the alliance hc choice to play how many rounds they want.

Of course it is. That doesn't make any of the comments regarding it any less valid just because they choose not to play.

Originally Posted by MaxMilliaN

and funny to see 1up now on a crusade against Subh for not being their puppet. GJ subh, you decide your alliance road, finallly to see an alliance with balls and not just being a brainless 1up drone.

Exactly how is choosing not to go for the #1 spot having balls? The opportunity to finish in 1st place was presented to Subh, they bottled it. They are as spineless as you are dimwitted.

Originally Posted by MaxMilliaN

edit: oh yea,obviously Phil still sux and his therapy sessions havent paid off

Evidently neither have your 'not posting like a complete tool' classes.

[jerome]

Originally Posted by MaxMilliaN

GJ subh, you decide your alliance road, finallly to see an alliance with balls

lol

[MaxMilliaN]

if i were subh i would do the same.

choosing between serving as 1up doggy to take out eXi and _if_ it would happen eventually 1up/co will take out subh
or
not helping anyone and choosing whats best for my alliance. you dont need to be a rocketscientist to see that subh wont have a chance for #1 with alliances like 1up/eXi around.

so i dont understand why they should putting all this time and effort just to make 1up happy and eventually get fked by them.

doesnt make sense hombre

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by MaxMilliaN

if i were subh i would do the same.

choosing between serving as 1up doggy to take out eXi and _if_ it would happen eventually 1up/co will take out subh
or
not helping anyone and choosing whats best for my alliance. you dont need to be a rocketscientist to see that subh wont have a chance for #1 with alliances like 1up/eXi around.

so i dont understand why they should putting all this time and effort just to make 1up happy and eventually get fked by them.

doesnt make sense hombre

So you're actually accusing Subh of being crap in a military sense and politically inept? At last we finally agree on something then.

[Stifler]

MaxMilliaN why did you have to return to posting?

we already have two complete tools in robban and Pilgrim, we dont need another

[robban1]

Originally Posted by Stifler

MaxMilliaN why did you have to return to posting?

we already have two complete tools in robban and Pilgrim, we dont need another

wtf that was rude m8 :/ i only do quality post cos i care about pa, you only to boost your ego or something

[MaxMilliaN]

Originally Posted by mazzelaar

So you're actually accusing Subh of being crap in a military sense and politically inept? At last we finally agree on something then.

you are not reading again dude.

not crap, but not as good. or can i call 1up crap for lacking both political and military this round? ah no wait, its because 1up is so inactiv. every1 else is crap.

its the same as earlier rounds when there was a showdown between 1up/eXi. 1up PR machine going at top alliances NOT helping them (r15 same with ND)

all these talks about how other alliances can get #1 if they help 1up remove eXi , but in the end its just a seduction because when eXi would be gone 1up would use their block to take out the next contender.

congrats to Subh for being on to you!!!!

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by Numbnuts

not crap, but not as good. or can i call 1up crap for lacking both political and military this round? ah no wait, its because 1up is so inactiv. every1 else is crap.

We didn't lack the political this round but we did indeeed lack the military presence. We formulated a political environment that would have, at worst, given eXilition a run for their money and given both ourselves and subh a good chance of hitting the top spot.

Originally Posted by Spacktard

its the same as earlier rounds when there was a showdown between 1up/eXi. 1up PR machine going at top alliances NOT helping them (r15 same with ND)

Your arrogance is astonishing. What you're saying there is that everyone who isn't 1up or eXilition should stay away from the race for #1 and leave the 'big boys' to it.

Originally Posted by Dipshit

all these talks about how other alliances can get #1 if they help 1up remove eXi , but in the end its just a seduction because when eXi would be gone 1up would use their block to take out the next contender.

congrats to Subh for being on to you!!!!

Subh *were* the block you ****ing mong and they already had more relations with other alliances following the SEx war with Omen. So if anyone was going to form a block after the demise of eXilition it was going to be Subh rather than 1up. They were placed in a better position in terms of value/roids and politically than 1up to make a move for #1 following a war with eXilition.

What it boils down to is cowardice being disguised as 'not being 1up puppets'. It's only subnormal cretins like you that happen to buy into it.

Edit: speeling ;p

[MaxMilliaN]

your an angry kiddo

im not arrogant and say no other alliance deserves victory, but who the **** says that what way SUBH chooses MUST BE ALSO 1up's WAY. you are arrogant with saying SUBH only chance of victory is being 1up's puppet.

now fok off and die, your alliance lost so please lose with some dignity. and stop blaming another alliance for your imcompetence u ****ing newbie.

[Phil^]

Originally Posted by MaxMilliaN

your an angry kiddo

im not arrogant and say no other alliance deserves victory, but who the **** says that what way SUBH chooses MUST BE ALSO 1up's WAY. you are arrogant with saying SUBH only chance of victory is being 1up's puppet.

now fok off and die, your alliance lost so please lose with some dignity. and stop blaming another alliance for your imcompetence u ****ing newbie.

No, he's perfectly accurate.
If subh were capable of taking exil down on their own , why havent they done so?
Facts are, it would require 1up and subh to co-operate to even stand a chance of taking them down at the time it was proposed. Quite possibly it would require a third alliance as well
Neither alliance on their own could take them down, but together there was at least a fighting chance.

face reality.

[Mek]

Originally Posted by MaxMilliaN

your an angry kiddo

im not arrogant and say no other alliance deserves victory, but who the **** says that what way SUBH chooses MUST BE ALSO 1up's WAY. you are arrogant with saying SUBH only chance of victory is being 1up's puppet.

now fok off and die, your alliance lost so please lose with some dignity. and stop blaming another alliance for your imcompetence u ****ing newbie.

touche

he has in a point in a way mazz...the only person to blame for 1ups lack of punch is 1up. to blame subh for not acting when it wasnt in their best interests is a stupid thing to say. and yes had exi gone down 1up would have seized the oppertunity to target subh and claim the victory. for you to insinuate otherwise is, in my opinion, bullshit.

had subh launched with 1up im under no illusion exil would have targetted the weaker alliance (in this case subh) and roided them into the ground, pretty much like that did with xVx leaving them no better off had they sat on the fence and let you guys get your ass kicked.

[Mighteh]

ooo...
/me sees an opportunity for some excellent trolling

I will wait it out. Mazz is foaming from the mouth (good job Maxi) and considering very few quality trollhunters, so far there is no sportsmanship in posting.

and robban does not troll, he told me so

Quote 587 of 588: [16:44] <robban> i dont troll

See ?

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by MaxMilliaN

your an angry kiddo

And you're of subnormal intelligence. I won't hold it against you.

Originally Posted by MaxMilliaN

im not arrogant and say no other alliance deserves victory, but who the **** says that what way SUBH chooses MUST BE ALSO 1up's WAY. you are arrogant with saying SUBH only chance of victory is being 1up's puppet.

This is baffling me. If it gives them a chance of victory exactly how are they being our puppets? Is this just the mindless rhetoric of someone who just can't grasp simple logic because of thier unfailing ability to turn everything into anti 1up dross?

If you can show me another way whereby Subh could have challenged for #1 then I'll be happy to admit you aren't a mindless ****wit.

Originally Posted by MaxMilliaN

now fok off and die, your alliance lost so please lose with some dignity. and stop blaming another alliance for your imcompetence u ****ing newbie.

I'm pretty sure I've said repeatedly that eXilition outplayed 1up and we were never good enough to challenge for #1 without certain political situations playing out. How about, for once, you try and win with dignity?

[furball]

The easy and obvious conclusion is that Subh weren't interested in going for #1. Will they ever have such an opportunity again?

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by Mek

touche

he has in a point in a way mazz...the only person to blame for 1ups lack of punch is 1up. to blame subh for not acting when it wasnt in their best interests is a stupid thing to say. and yes had exi gone down 1up would have seized the oppertunity to target subh and claim the victory. for you to insinuate otherwise is, in my opinion, bullshit.

Thus proving you are as narrow minded and as completely unable to read as Max.

I haven't blamed anyone for 1up not having what it takes to go 1 on 1 with eXilition. I'll reiterate for the slow ones among you. 1up weren *not* good enough this round to beat eXilition 1 on 1. If eXilition were to be beaten it would have required a coalition of more than one alliance. In this instance 1up and Subh with help from xVx.

Are you honestly saying that Subh, if eXilition had been beaten, wouldn't have had the sense to target 1up? What on earth makes you think that after a war with eXilition 1up would just knock them aside as though they weren't there?

Exactly how was it not in Subh's best interests? They could genuinely have had a chance for taking the #1 spot. As it stands they are in 4th and losing ground. *WOW* that really is some improvement, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Mek

had subh launched with 1up im under no illusion exil would have targetted the weaker alliance (in this case subh) and roided them into the ground, pretty much like that did with xVx leaving them no better off had they sat on the fence and let you guys get your ass kicked.

You don't think having an extra full alliance of players and 3 alliances running fleetcatches would have made the slightest difference? And so what? At least have a go. Could it have finished worse than where they are now?

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by furball

The easy and obvious conclusion is that Subh weren't interested in going for #1. Will they ever have such an opportunity again?

Imo - take your chances, no matter how slim you think they are because 2nd is nowhere, no matter how much you try and dress it up with whatever wank excuse you have for not having the nuts to get your hands dirty.

[Mighteh]

well lemme try just one time

Originally Posted by mazzelaar

HEY ! EVERY ONE ! LOOK AT ME !
(when everyone looks)
WAAA ! WAAA ! If not for you all 1up would have won (boo subh boo for not helping us)

wait wait ! dont leave ! i am not done whining yet !

that reminds me of a certain situation that happened last round, when 1 alliance was #1 up untill 1up tagged, and then blame was passed on from one alliance onto another.

but lets whine about it for the umpfteenth time

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by Mighteh

well lemme try just one time


that reminds me of a certain situation that happened last round, when 1 alliance was #1 up untill 1up tagged, and then blame was passed on from one alliance onto another.

but lets whine about it for the umpfteenth time

The sooner vile cretins like you are run out of this game the better the community will be and the game won't be ruled by ignorance and stupidity.

[K-W]

Originally Posted by Mighteh

wahh wahh, all I know how to do is take ignorant shots at 1up

Yah because your whining about the discussion is MUCH more interesting.

[The Real Arfy]

Originally Posted by Mighteh

well lemme try just one time


that reminds me of a certain situation that happened last round, when 1 alliance was #1 up untill 1up tagged, and then blame was passed on from one alliance onto another.

but lets whine about it for the umpfteenth time

Since you clearly haven't gotten over last round - lets remember that 1up was welcoming any amount of alliances to give us a good fight, but just like this round people just like sugar-coating their runner-up spot and would rather play an already boring game in a boring way for 2 months.

Unfortunately I'm not sure I see the thrill that everyone gets from this game in the way that it is most often played.

[Mighteh]

Originally Posted by K-W

Yah because your whining about the discussion is MUCH more interesting.

How was that shot ignorant ? it was cheap, dastardly, and quite funny (apparently not to 1up, but to quite a few others)

I fail to see ignorance in my post. (as usual, tho)

[Mighteh]

Originally Posted by waazzelaar

The sooner vile cretins like you are run out of this game the better the community will be and the game won't be ruled by ignorance and stupidity.

and that is what i call an excellent example of constructive criticism ! U aces that one

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by Mighteh

and that is what i call an excellent example of constructive criticism ! U aces that one

It wasn't supposed to be constructive beyond pointing out that you are nothing but a destructuve element in the community and we'd all be better off without you. My point still stands.

[K-W]

Originally Posted by Mighteh

How was that shot ignorant ? it was cheap, dastardly, and quite funny (apparently not to 1up, but to quite a few others)

I fail to see ignorance in my post. (as usual, tho)

Well your post didnt really have a point, so ignorance may not have been the best description. Regardless this is the AD forum, its here for people to 'whine' about alliances. Which is certainly preferable to you whining about the discussion.

[bwtmc]

Originally Posted by mazzelaar

We didn't lack the political this round but we did indeeed lack the military presence. We formulated a political environment that would have, at worst, given eXilition a run for their money and given both ourselves and subh a good chance of hitting the top spot.

I think it probably didn't help that 1up were determined to involve Omen as well as eXilition "because even if they aren't napped to eXi, they might act as if they are."

Yeah, if three alliances were to target two alliances they might well speak to each other, if anything did come of that, they'd probably target the same alliance too. I doubt SubH found that very appealing.

There's not much you could've done to change the fact 1up were terrible strategic targets compared to SubH at that time, but I think I would've bargained a little more generously had it been me.

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by bwtmc

I think it probably didn't help that 1up were determined to involve Omen as well as eXilition "because even if they aren't napped to eXi, they might act as if they are."

Omen didn't come into the discussion at all other than to perhaps approach at a later date to join the coalition. We had no intention whatsoever to take part in any kind of pre-emptive targetting aimed at Omen. We believed there was no need and we actually tentatively discussed the possibility of Omen joining in against eXilition. Are you telling us there was something we didn't know about and that some kind of 'deal' was already in place?

[Mighteh]

Originally Posted by mazzelaar

It wasn't supposed to be constructive beyond pointing out that you are nothing but a destructuve element in the community and we'd all be better off without you. My point still stands.

as as in "1up", your immaginary friends or a population of a random 3rd world country that granted you a right to speak for the ?

And being destructive element (wich i dont think i am) is better then being a bitter clown, imnsho.

I just htink this thread is overdrawn, with topics of discussion depleted before it started.

Again, congrats eXi n all.

Almeida is my personal hero <3.

And 1 up can :crymeariver: for another loss. Too bad i was not around every other time they got their stuff handed to them.
Besides that, i am just gloating, and could not pass up a chance to make fun of Mazz, especially seeing his rabid reactions to Maxi's post.

[K-W]

Originally Posted by Mighteh

Besides that, i am just gloating

As far as I can tell the only people with bragging rights over 1up right now are exilition, so what are you gloating about?

[bwtmc]

Originally Posted by mazzelaar

Omen didn't come into the discussion at all other than to perhaps approach at a later date to join the coalition. We had no intention whatsoever to take part in any kind of pre-emptive targetting aimed at Omen.

Speak to your CEO I guess.

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by bwtmc

Speak to your CEO I guess.

Given that it was Sid who spoke to Keizari and told me directly about the approach to Omen I'd say he is more than likely going to give the same answer.

If something changed in the 4 days that we targetted eXilition then obviously I missed it but I can state without doubt the siuation I outlined was still the same up to the target picking between Subh, 1up and xVx. And at no point since that original meeting have we targetted Omen directly.

[Mighteh]

Originally Posted by K-W

As far as I can tell the only people with bragging rights over 1up right now are exilition, so what are you gloating about?

gloating does not neccecerely presumes presence of braggin rights.

bragging does.

gloating is, usually, kinda like braggin, but when u actualyl DONT have braggin rights. imo.

And my reason for gloating is that 1up won last round linda same way eXi is winning this one. Without ability to find allies to try and bring fight to eXi 1 more time. And at that time, they were saying "ooooh, ooooh, not every alliance plays to win" in responce to my posts that were themed kinda the same as that of Mazz's.


(tbh, i share your oppinion that every alliance HAS to strive and play for #1, as much as every galaxy and every planet has to strive to be #1, i do realize that some are just happy with playing this game, not winning it, and i accept it now)

[Methedrine]

Originally Posted by The Real Arfy

...but just like this round people just like sugar-coating their runner-up spot and would rather play an already boring game in a boring way for 2 months.

Unfortunately I'm not sure I see the thrill that everyone gets from this game in the way that it is most often played.

Quoted for truth. Time to move to the next objective... playing Ascendancy \o/