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16 Aug 2012, 11:59
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Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
So, nelito declared war on cardi, and cardi declared war on DS.
First, nelito - really? :-/
Second... how is this going to end? App haven't played forserious for a while and DS have more members.
Does this affect App's round-winning possibilities by entering into a war so early, how long will it last?
For the love of god can we please not have another round whereas everything that was said was added to the damned Predictions thread ¬_¬
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16 Aug 2012, 14:18
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
This surely put an end to dS title hope as Apprime continues to SK their schools, hospitals and all of their public baths.
Will Robert Mugabe and the rest of his loyal followers punish the lithaunian bot army?
Will Ultores help their loyal allie through rounds now i need, and reunite the once infamous Appthores block?
I dont know, hard one to call.
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16 Aug 2012, 14:37
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
Declaring war on Apprime is bit like declaring war on DLR: nothing to gain and everything to lose.
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16 Aug 2012, 14:47
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
Declaring war on Apprime is bit like declaring war on DLR: nothing to gain and everything to lose.
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Still gotta give it to them, atleast they try bring the fun back to PA, too bad u still have alliances around that actualy are trying to ruin PA...
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16 Aug 2012, 15:17
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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too bad u still have alliances around that actualy are trying to ruin PA...
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With no intention of starting something...who?
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16 Aug 2012, 15:26
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
did bitcher join to app this round?
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16 Aug 2012, 15:49
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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With no intention of starting something...who?
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U figure that one out.
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16 Aug 2012, 15:55
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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Originally Posted by neroon
did bitcher join to app this round?
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No, they wouldnt have me
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16 Aug 2012, 17:06
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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Originally Posted by t3k
So, nelito declared war on cardi, and cardi declared war on DS.
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what happened to start it ?
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16 Aug 2012, 17:18
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
Declaring war on Apprime is bit like declaring war on DLR: nothing to gain and everything to lose.
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You do get awesome forumthreads like this one though.
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16 Aug 2012, 17:26
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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Originally Posted by gzambo
what happened to start it ?
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Word on "the street" is that nelito was being cov op'd by App. nelito then declared a personal war against cardi which led to cardi declaring an alliance war.
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16 Aug 2012, 18:09
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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Word on "the street" is that nelito was being cov op'd by App. nelito then declared a personal war against cardi which led to cardi declaring an alliance war.
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Certainly im hanging out in the wrong street then
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16 Aug 2012, 18:30
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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Originally Posted by t3k
Word on "the street" is that nelito was being cov op'd by App. nelito then declared a personal war against cardi which led to cardi declaring an alliance war.
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how cute
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16 Aug 2012, 19:09
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
ok, lets get the facts out there on this.
App were cov opping nelito, so nelito put up a gal that had 2 app in it.
Cardi didnt like this, so attacked 2 dS gals... which they subsequently SKed, i was promised by cardi this was a one night thing to teach nelito a lesson.
I took the choice to retalliate this action of tick 100 SKing, but putting up an app gal for raid.
Cardi then declared war on dS, which he is totally within his right to do.
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Tbh, im looking forward to this, as it will be the first true test for Dead Soldiers.
So this will allow me to see what we are actually capable of.
dS versus one of the most decorated and feared alliances in PA... not who i wanted to war... but guess choices are made!
Let the fun commence, all i can hope for is a good war, and for dS to do me proud.
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16 Aug 2012, 19:17
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
Just gotta love it when people twist everything around. The real question is. Is Apprime going to war like a girl with SK's or come fighting like grown ups. I look forward to this.
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16 Aug 2012, 19:22
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
This is quite a comedy scenerio, kind of no lose for DS, your not expected to win because its Apprime but more likely you will because its so early in the round and Apprime are slower starters and their attacking setup is better for endgame battles, with jihading 2-3 planets a night. Doesnt work at tick 150.
Only note i would put on what Fizz said is that in war SK's are a valid weapon, its out of war they are considered by most to be an overly hostile act. So yes Apprime will come with SK's because SKs dent morale, a perfectly vaild war tactic.
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16 Aug 2012, 19:23
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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Just gotta love it when people twist everything around. The real question is. Is Apprime going to war like a girl with SK's or come fighting like grown ups. I look forward to this.
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War means SK´s for sure, and i don´t see how that is fighting like a girl. The idea of a war is to take your opponent out of whatever equation you are having at the moment, SK´s help in that quite effectively.
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16 Aug 2012, 19:30
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
Win!
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16 Aug 2012, 19:32
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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The game population means no sks. Disregard the fact that its even a war, the fact that this is a war is pathetic. Cardiac needs to stop being an egoist arse. If this calls for sks, then ds wont use sks, instead we'll just destroy your ships and take your roids. This is my last post anyways. Good luck Cardi.
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So sending sk's at someones planet is a no-no, but instead killing said planets fleet is fine?
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16 Aug 2012, 19:35
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
SKs outside of war is not necessary imo. during war, whateva it takes as long as you stay within the rules is fine. more SKing and FCing you do, the quicker your enemy morale drops and the quicker they come begging for mercy.
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16 Aug 2012, 19:37
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
in Fizzs world losing 10 structures is far more horrific than wiping out someones roiding fleet and taking away their ability to build a new one!!
War does crazy things to a persons mind!!!!!
I do agree that SK's are a bad thing in PA and the community is really too small for them to be a part of PA anymore but whilst they are available they are fine in war situations, in the heat of battle anything goes!!!
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16 Aug 2012, 21:56
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
ok for the idiot talking one who the **** is t3k one get th true version than talk
2:sks are awesome i dont care getting sked its a part of the game
3:butcher go get a life ur almost arriving to cba level on posts
4:we didnt war no one we answered to a forts attack made by apprime
5:enjoy ur round like i said we are not here as tourists we ar here for war
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16 Aug 2012, 22:08
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
Hehe, so basicly, nelito is the catalysator for this war?
This is what ODDR feared when they choose to reject nelitos offer, when he said that he would join ODDR if he was allowed to HC.
I do envy dS for having the balls to challenge Apprime, it has been proved to be a bold move before.
Im looking forward to see a exciting battle.
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16 Aug 2012, 22:16
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
I'd like to send 1 pod to Mister B-Butch3r here. If you kill it, I will stab you.
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16 Aug 2012, 23:31
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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ok for the idiot talking one who the **** is t3k one get th true version than talk
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Hi. I'm the one you asked to help HC your alliance. Nice to meet you?
Also, Alliance Discussion is about discussing what goes on in-game alliance-wise. Too many rounds are played whereby the forums are left to stagnate whilst bugger-all goes on between alliances beyond "let's block against ult, no, wait - let's let ult win by attacking each other".
The term 'Forum' is from Roman times, where people would "meet" (in a public square, perhaps) to "talk about and exchange ideas" (and trade goods, but that's less applicable to the point I'm trying to make).
I didn't come on here stating any facts, I'd just come on to discuss something that was already being discussed and open up the subject to conversation on the Planetarion discussion boards in an area designated to host the relevant topic.
By starting this thread, I've made public a rumour that was going around and given everyone concerned to state their version of events. The results of which can also be seen by anyone else willing to take the time to read over the posts in this thread, something which a pm on IRC would not have solved.
Either way, good luck with your war. And do try listening to Baddars more, hmm?
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17 Aug 2012, 03:23
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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Originally Posted by t3k
Hi. I'm the one you asked to help HC your alliance. Nice to meet you?
Also, Alliance Discussion is about discussing what goes on in-game alliance-wise. Too many rounds are played whereby the forums are left to stagnate whilst bugger-all goes on between alliances beyond "let's block against ult, no, wait - let's let ult win by attacking each other".
The term 'Forum' is from Roman times, where people would "meet" (in a public square, perhaps) to "talk about and exchange ideas" (and trade goods, but that's less applicable to the point I'm trying to make).
I didn't come on here stating any facts, I'd just come on to discuss something that was already being discussed and open up the subject to conversation on the Planetarion discussion boards in an area designated to host the relevant topic.
By starting this thread, I've made public a rumour that was going around and given everyone concerned to state their version of events. The results of which can also be seen by anyone else willing to take the time to read over the posts in this thread, something which a pm on IRC would not have solved.
Either way, good luck with your war. And do try listening to Baddars more, hmm?
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The war has been called off, nelitos balls is in CarDis purse once again, and Apprime is currently giving ODDR DCs a few grey hair again, focusing on our ODDR heavy gals, ofc in cohorts with Ultores once again, now we got clear evidence that it is a cultprit here with arranging attack on key ODDR members
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17 Aug 2012, 06:48
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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Hi. I'm the one you asked to help HC your alliance. Nice to meet you?
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lol'd.
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17 Aug 2012, 07:22
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
Yeah. Shortest, shittest war ever.
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17 Aug 2012, 08:37
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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lol'd.
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When i got reintroduced to pa someone told me about this daso, who kept changing his nick every round to start a new allie was kenny, or what ever he was called before that. No wonder nelito gets confused
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
About 7 years ago, a few friends of mine had a little discussion about Apple's hardware. I say "discussion", but this being before Apple's recent surge of popularity, they were mostly just being trying to outdo each other in negativity. Figuring I'd show they all who was boss, I quipped "yeah, but at least they're not Macs".
Lesson learnt: don't try to speak authoritatively about things you don't know shit about.
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17 Aug 2012, 08:51
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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When i got reintroduced to pa someone told me about this daso, who kept changing his nick every round to start a new allie was kenny, or what ever he was called before that. No wonder nelito gets confused
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It's not that I "changed my nick" to t3k, but as I've said before 't3k' is the gaming nick I use for pretty much everything else on the internet, and it made sense to use it for this game too. Even if only on the forums. I've otherwise had the same nick since I started playing PA, save for the occasional early-round fake nick in gal channels before it became all unfashionable and stuff.
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17 Aug 2012, 10:47
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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It's not that I "changed my nick" to t3k, but as I've said before 't3k' is the gaming nick I use for pretty much everything else on the internet, and it made sense to use it for this game too. Even if only on the forums. I've otherwise had the same nick since I started playing PA, save for the occasional early-round fake nick in gal channels before it became all unfashionable and stuff.
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What happened to Sarek?
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17 Aug 2012, 11:45
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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What happened to Sarek?
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I did say "since I started playing PA". Any usernames used in other webgames are inapplicable to PA or the point I was making :P
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
This reminds me of a few incidents that occurred in TGV when I was HCing. The way I always approached SK incidents and war/politics is that when we go raiding we dont allow SK. Only time SK are allowed is when we are at war and we want to handicap/hurt our opponents. During normal gal raids we just want your roids and steal some of your ships and expect you to get more roids and more ships so we can come back again and "liberate" them. Not hard feelings, I just want what is yours .
The only exception the the above is if we get hit by SK by any planet we will return the favor in the very near future. They came and visited one of our planets, we now are obligated to visit their planet. If this leads to an escalation, so be it.
But thats just my opinion the rules I would go by. In either case this is a war game so if your not pissing off someone then your not playing the game.
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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ok for the idiot talking one who the **** is t3k one get th true version than talk
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think his name is kenny, heard he has some good inside info on this
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher
The war has been called off, nelitos balls is in CarDis purse once again, and Apprime is currently giving ODDR DCs a few grey hair again, focusing on our ODDR heavy gals, ofc in cohorts with Ultores once again, now we got clear evidence that it is a cultprit here with arranging attack on key ODDR members
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if u know anything about app-oddr history u would know oddr was 1 of the few friendly alliances to us.. maybe even the only 1.
so your scenario that app and ult are hitting ODDR in cohort is not very likely
maybe raids on gals without intel in it?
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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if u know anything about app-oddr history u would know oddr was 1 of the few friendly alliances to us.. maybe even the only 1.
so your scenario that app and ult are hitting ODDR in cohort is not very likely
maybe raids on gals without intel in it?
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It was a joke man, because Apprime/Ultores happend to attack the same gal by mistake clearly, giving oddr 30 fleets incomming
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19 Aug 2012, 13:37
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
i refuse to beleive you have a sense of humour!!
Plus all you ever harp on about is some magical Ultores/Apprime block with worrying conviction.
Just accept that 90% of the time you have no clue what your talking about and we'll all be happy
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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90% of the time i have no clue what I'm talking about
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fixed it for you
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
nice to see the Asc troll club in full swing. Unfortunatly gzambo from what you type on here it could easily be applied to you as well.. oh well..
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
I think it's vaguely amusing that you call someone a troll for using the exact line you yourself used. Heh. Oh well.
(I forget what that's called. Woody? Silicony? Metally?)
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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nice to see the Asc troll club in full swing. Unfortunatly gzambo from what you type on here it could easily be applied to you as well.. oh well..
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the ascendancy troll squad (its on the wiki look them up )would have ripped you a new one by now and I am a long way away from their trolling skills , maybe if you stopped playing the capt obvious role you wouldn't leave yourself so open
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
i refuse to beleive you have a sense of humour!!
Plus all you ever harp on about is some magical Ultores/Apprime block with worrying conviction.
Just accept that 90% of the time you have no clue what your talking about and we'll all be happy
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coming from the largest blabbermouth on AD. The fact that you play alliance expert while having run an alliance that was pwned by a group of 12 indicates that 90% of the time you have no clue what you're talking about. Might be a tad lower due to the Ultores fanclub posts.
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Adapt has never been an official ND HC. He was on his way to promotion for some reason, but then got denied promotion. Lol at the muppet claiming he has been
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19 Aug 2012, 19:27
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Propaganda Chief
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Under the Rainbow
Posts: 4,740
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Re: Dead Soldiers vs Apprime
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Originally Posted by Kaiba
i refuse to beleive you have a sense of humour!!
Plus all you ever harp on about is some magical Ultores/Apprime block with worrying conviction.
Just accept that 90% of the time you have no clue what your talking about and we'll all be happy
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I shall run all my worries by you from now on kaiba, since you cleary got some special ability to know what is and what is not going on. To me it is a mystery why someone like you with ur wit, and knowledge isnt picked up yet by some alliance to be their advicer
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