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Unread 19 Jul 2003, 14:43   #1
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Americas Terrorism Information Awareness System
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,56620,00.html

official website: http://www.darpa.mil/iao/TIASystems.htm

Its actually going through congress.

Ok, does anyone else think this is another step towards a 'big brother' state?

Not only that but it will never totally work.

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Suppose that the system could become 99% accurate, correctly identifying future terrorists as terrorists 99% of the time, and harmless people as harmless 99% of the time. That might sound like a fairly reasonable deal, until you do the maths.

If there are 1,000 future terrorists, say, in a population of 300m (roughly equivalent to that of the US), the 99%-accurate system will catch 990 of them. But it will also wrongly identify as terrorists 1% of the harmless people, which is 1% of 300m, or 2,999,990.
It's frightening to think that the massive majority of people this system will single out will be completely innocent.

Results from search on google, check out some more articles on it if you like.

Does anyone actually see past the massive problems this brings up and see it actually being useful to the population of the US?
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Unread 19 Jul 2003, 14:51   #2
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Congress Killed its funding.

Wont go far without cash.

I think they specifically forbade the Military and Intel folks from spending *any* of their budget on the project.
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Congress Killed its funding.

Wont go far without cash.

I think they specifically forbade the Military and Intel folks from spending *any* of their budget on the project.
Phew.
Where did you get that information from? Or am I just behind the times...
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Phew.
Where did you get that information from? Or am I just behind the times...
Oh I think I read it on bbc news yesterday.

Id go hunting for it but Im low on time here
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Ah found it:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3076849.stm



It is not specific though but I think that its funding has been cut totally rather than just reduced.
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But the Senate vote to unanimously forbid the Defense Department from spending any of its $369 billion budget on the TIA programme, despite assurances from the Pentagon that it would protect the privacy of citizens.

A plea from the Bush administration calling on the Senate to back the project also fell on deaf ears.
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Re: Americas Terrorism Information Awareness System
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TIA is old news, you also forgot to mention Poindexter (the man in charge of it) and his corrupt history. If you're gonna do the tinfoil hat thing you should do it properly at least
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Re: Re: Americas Terrorism Information Awareness System
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TIA is old news, you also forgot to mention Poindexter (the man in charge of it) and his corrupt history. If you're gonna do the tinfoil hat thing you should do it properly at least
Only found out about it today
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I read about it here: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_events.
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The best part was when they changed the name from "Total Information Awareness" to "Terrorist Information Awareness".

I think the first one was more accurate.
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Re: Re: Americas Terrorism Information Awareness System
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TIA is old news
I'm surprised you didn't mention GIA.
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I'm surprised you didn't mention GIA.
Forgot all about that site
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