Planetarion Forums - The French. Why I suspect they have something to hide.

Intrepid00 · 17 Mar 2003, 04:10

If you don't know by now, it is a fact that when Sadam came to power he wanted to start a nuclear weapons program. Everyone knew this. Even the French. Yet they sold them a Nuclear reactor and helped them set up the reactor in the middle of the dessert with no geneartors or power lines being built to power cities. They knew damn well what was going on. Makes you wonder what else they may have sold them. Espcially when the Prime Minister is dead set against it and was a total Dick to the smaller countires that favored a strike trying to get UN memership. Basically he told them shut up you do not have a right to your opion now you will pay.

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Mar 2003, 04:14

French in 'dodgy motives' shock.

W · 17 Mar 2003, 04:28

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Originally posted by Intrepid00
If you don't know by now, it is a fact that when Sadam came to power he wanted to start a nuclear weapons program. Everyone knew this. Even the French. Yet they sold them a Nuclear reactor and helped them set up the reactor in the middle of the dessert with no geneartors or power lines being built to power cities. They knew damn well what was going on. Makes you wonder what else they may have sold them. Espcially when the Prime Minister is dead set against it and was a total Dick to the smaller countires that favored a strike trying to get UN memership. Basically he told them shut up you do not have a right to your opion now you will pay.

You'll be hard pressed to find a country that didn't knowingly aid Saddam with weaponry.

Cyp · 17 Mar 2003, 10:14

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Originally posted by W
You'll be hard pressed to find a country that didn't knowingly aid Saddam with weaponry.

Atlantis?

They didn't aid Saddam with weaponry, and they could have if they wanted to, as my weapons inspectors couldn't find evidence that Atlantis did or didn't have time machines.

Fifth_teletubbie · 17 Mar 2003, 10:33

ROFLMAO

Read up on history a bit before you start spouting uninformed nonsense like this. Pay special attention to the 80s war between Iran and Iraq and what role the US (and France and Britain) played in that conflict.

If you honestly believe the French could have supplied this equipment without US knowledge or indeed consent (they both signed the non-proliferation treaty after all) you're utterly blind.

meglamaniac · 17 Mar 2003, 12:56

Excuse me?
Remember who supplied the Exocets to the enemy in the Falklands war - I'm not on Bush's side in the least, but I have to admit that the French have never let minor obsticles like the fact that the people the Exocet missiles were going to be used on were their allys to get in the way of a good business deal.

at0mic.c0w · 17 Mar 2003, 13:03

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Originally posted by Intrepid00
Espcially when the Prime Minister is dead set against it and was a total Dick to the smaller countires that favored a strike trying to get UN memership. Basically he told them shut up you do not have a right to your opion now you will pay.

it's not like the US are no puting preassure on the african and south american SC members. mexico will think twice before voting NO or they'll get the 3mil mexicans sent back who live illegaly in the US before they can say 'ouch'.
there is a US law stating that any countries which weaken US' security (e.g. by voting NO in the SC) will get less priority when it comes to trades etc. the african SC members surely can't afford that.

now WHO is a total dick and not caring about the SC members' opinion. it can't be Mr. George 'we go to war no matter what u say' W. Bush Jr. right...

Vaio · 17 Mar 2003, 13:15

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Originally posted by Fifth_teletubbie
ROFLMAO

If you honestly believe the French could have supplied this equipment without US knowledge or indeed consent (they both signed the non-proliferation treaty after all) you're utterly blind.

http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/History/Osirak.html

Vaio

Vaio · 17 Mar 2003, 13:19

and as an aside, one of the pilots involved in the action was the israeli astronaut killed in the shuttle disaster

Vaio

at0mic.c0w · 17 Mar 2003, 13:19

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Originally posted by Vaio
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/History/Osirak.html

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They popped up at 17:35 and quickly identified the dome gleaming in the late afternoon sunlight.

i guess the Top Gun soundtrack was playing in the background as well.

this only is more proof that iraq isn't a threat to anyone. the turkish army could conquer bagdad in less then a week if they saw the need.

Vaio · 17 Mar 2003, 13:20

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Originally posted by at0mic.c0w
i guess the Top Gun soundtrack was playing in the background as well.

this only is more proof that iraq isn't a threat to anyone. the turkish army could conquer bagdad in less then a week if they saw the need.

Even the french could

Vaio

Kurashima · 17 Mar 2003, 13:39

The French. Why I suspect they have something to hide.

BECAUSE THEYRE THE BASTARDING GARLIC BREATHED , FROG EATING , SNAIL MUNCHING , BERET WEARING FRENCH, AND THEYRE NEVER UP FRONT AND HONEST.

wu_trax · 17 Mar 2003, 13:42

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Originally posted by Vaio
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/History/Osirak.html

Vaio

its not like anyone cared about iraqs weapons program back then (besides israel obviously). noone even cared when saddam attacked the kurds.

Vaio · 17 Mar 2003, 13:51

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Originally posted by wu_trax
its not like anyone cared about iraqs weapons program back then (besides israel obviously). noone even cared when saddam attacked the kurds.

Sadly very true, if Mr Bush snr had bothered to get his finger out years ago the UN would have backed action to remove Hussain once he gassed the kurds. Perhaps everyone was busy.....

Vaio

wu_trax · 17 Mar 2003, 13:54

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Originally posted by Vaio
Sadly very true, if Mr Bush snr had bothered to get his finger out years ago the UN would have backed action to remove Hussain once he gassed the kurds. Perhaps everyone was busy.....

Vaio

not bussy, they just didnt care or even appreciated it. the kurds were on the side of iran after all.

Sub · 17 Mar 2003, 14:02

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Originally posted by Intrepid00
If you don't know by now, it is a fact that when Sadam came to power he wanted to start a nuclear weapons program. Everyone knew this.

Oh it's a fact? How?
Did Saddam start a press conference stating that he intended to do so? Seeing as the Americans helped put him into power, surely they might have realised this?

Kumnaa · 17 Mar 2003, 14:09

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Originally posted by meglamaniac
Excuse me?
Remember who supplied the Exocets to the enemy in the Falklands war - I'm not on Bush's side in the least, but I have to admit that the French have never let minor obsticles like the fact that the people the Exocet missiles were going to be used on were their allys to get in the way of a good business deal.

every country does it

Nusselt · 17 Mar 2003, 15:02

Does the US/France/Russia/China etc etc actually have a big red button hidden in a room somewhere??? for instance say ol'george wanted to use nuuclear weapons against france (we have an old texas saying, kill the french) what would happen?? does he just sign a piece of paper saying prof liebstrom ATTACK france???? Or does he press a big red button???? id love to press that button.

Fifth_teletubbie · 17 Mar 2003, 15:05

Unlike Iraq, France actually _does_ have a store of nuclear weapons.
I doubt the US would be so triggerhappy against an opponent that can actually shoot back.

wu_trax · 17 Mar 2003, 15:08

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Originally posted by Fifth_teletubbie
Unlike Iraq, France actually _does_ have a store of nuclear weapons.
I doubt the US would be so triggerhappy against an opponent that can actually shoot back.

... until that rocket shild is up. after that bush will probably nuke everyone around.

Nondescript Human · 17 Mar 2003, 23:23

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Originally posted by wu_trax
... until that rocket shild is up. after that bush will probably nuke everyone around.

Or maybe he wouldn't, because he sees himself as a moral person, and isn't quite stupid enough to think that the international community would just stand by and not kick his ass if he started nuking random democracies.

TAFKAJ · 18 Mar 2003, 02:36

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Originally posted by Nondescript Human
Or maybe he wouldn't, because he sees himself as a moral person, and isn't quite stupid enough to think that the international community would just stand by and not kick his ass if he started nuking random democracies.

Bush and a moral person are we talking about the same Mr Bush now????

MrL_JaKiri · 18 Mar 2003, 02:41

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Originally posted by Iniluki
So your choosing to ignore the chemical weapons and military training, the UK and US Sold him.

Well all have a dirty past as far sa Iraq is concered!

I think the thing he's most ignoring is that the US got him in power.

Gayle29uk · 18 Mar 2003, 08:34

The French do indeed have something to hide, Elvis. I can now exclusively reveal that Elvis is behind Chirac's recent UN weirdness! Following his abduction by the escaped Roswell alien Elvis was trained in Top Secret Alien Mind Control(tm) techniques and ended up as the shadowy figure behind the Bildeberg group. From his Secret Underground Lair (patent pending) he holds top level discussions with the world's most powerful people over a burger and chips before letting loose his mind controlling waves on unsuspecting victims everywhere.

LHC · 18 Mar 2003, 09:21

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Originally posted by Captain T'Bolt
Australia

We just give them $800 million of wheat a year

Food aid is the devil.

Worse than weapons

Radical Edward · 18 Mar 2003, 10:49

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Originally posted by Vaio
Even the french could

Vaio

this is highly debatable. afaik the french have never won a war (at least on their own) while being led by a french male. with perhaps the exception of the french revolution, in which the opponent was also french.

Gayle29uk · 18 Mar 2003, 11:01

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Originally posted by Radical Edward
this is highly debatable. afaik the french have never won a war (at least on their own) while being led by a french male. with perhaps the exception of the french revolution, in which the opponent was also french.

Ever heard of William the Conqueror?

Radical Edward · 18 Mar 2003, 11:12

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Ever heard of William the Conqueror?

He was Norman... he doesn't count.