Planetarion Forums - '****-teasers'

AliasX · 17 Sep 2003, 04:21

1) What do you call a man who was born in Columbus, raised in Cincinnati, and died in Chicago?

2) How can you make the following equation correct without changing it: 8 + 8 = 91

3) A sundial is a timepiece that has the fewest moving parts. Which timepiece has the most moving parts?

4) Which are there more of: millimeters in a mile or seconds in a month?

5)Which is heavier: 1000 kilograms or 1 ton?

6)Which is longer: 250 centimeters or 8 feet?

7)Which is larger: 3 raised to the 5th power or 5 raised to the 3rd power?

8)Which are there more of: ounces in a ton or inches in a kilometer?

9)Fitzgerald drove 30 miles to work every day. He averaged the same speed going to work as he did coming from work. It took him one hour and thirty minutes to drive to work. Yet it only took him ninty minutes to drive home. How come?

10)In Puzzleland's silly grocery store down the block, the proprietor has decided to price his produce a certain way. A daffodil (he sells flowers too) is worth 1o¢; a carrot is worth 8¢; a peach is worth 5¢; a zucchini is worth 1O¢. What is a plum worth?

Scoot951 · 17 Sep 2003, 04:25

While I'm not about to pull out my calculator, half of those are math problems, not brain teasers. Unless I missed something.

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 04:25

4, 5, 6, 8, 9 are stupid.

Monkehpimp · 17 Sep 2003, 04:30

1) What do you call a man who was born in Columbus, raised in Cincinnati, and died in Chicago? - American?

2) How can you make the following equation correct without changing it: 8 + 8 = 91 - flip it over

3) A sundial is a timepiece that has the fewest moving parts. Which timepiece has the most moving parts? - a watch?

4) Which are there more of: millimeters in a mile or seconds in a month? - minutes in a month

5)Which is heavier: 1000 kilograms or 1 ton? 1 ton - something to do with it being ton not tonne right?

6)Which is longer: 250 centimeters or 8 feet? - 250 cm

7)Which is larger: 3 raised to the 5th power or 5 raised to the 3rd power? - 3 to the 5th

8)Which are there more of: ounces in a ton or inches in a kilometer? - kilometre

9)Fitzgerald drove 30 miles to work every day. He averaged the same speed going to work as he did coming from work. It took him one hour and thirty minutes to drive to work. Yet it only took him ninty minutes to drive home. How come? - because an hour thirty is 90 minutes.

10)In Puzzleland's silly grocery store down the block, the proprietor has decided to price his produce a certain way. A daffodil (he sells flowers too) is worth 1o¢; a carrot is worth 8¢; a peach is worth 5¢; a zucchini is worth 1O¢. What is a plum worth? - 4 cents

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 04:30

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Originally posted by AliasX
2) How can you make the following equation correct without changing it: 8 + 8 = 91

That's stupid too, as the question doesn't let you do anything at all except change the definition of the symbols, as anything else to make it correct would be changing the equation

meaple · 17 Sep 2003, 04:31

2 is not possible to do

queball · 17 Sep 2003, 04:34

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Originally posted by AliasX
1) What do you call a man who was born in Columbus, raised in Cincinnati, and died in Chicago?

Dead.

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2) How can you make the following equation correct without changing it: 8 + 8 = 91

Turn it upside-down.

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3) A sundial is a timepiece that has the fewest moving parts. Which timepiece has the most moving parts?

The solar system?

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4) Which are there more of: millimeters in a mile or seconds in a month?

Seconds in a month.

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5)Which is heavier: 1000 kilograms or 1 ton?

1000kg

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6)Which is longer: 250 centimeters or 8 feet?

250cm

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7)Which is larger: 3 raised to the 5th power or 5 raised to the 3rd power?

3^5

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8)Which are there more of: ounces in a ton or inches in a kilometer?

Inches in a kilometer.

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9)Fitzgerald drove 30 miles to work every day. He averaged the same speed going to work as he did coming from work. It took him one hour and thirty minutes to drive to work. Yet it only took him ninty minutes to drive home. How come?

They're the same length of time expressed in two ways.

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10)In Puzzleland's silly grocery store down the block, the proprietor has decided to price his produce a certain way. A daffodil (he sells flowers too) is worth 1o¢; a carrot is worth 8¢; a peach is worth 5¢; a zucchini is worth 1O¢. What is a plum worth?

4¢

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 04:34

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Originally posted by Monkehpimp
flip it over

That's changing it, and thus not allowed by the question.

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 04:35

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Originally posted by queball
1000kg

A ton is 1.016 tonnes, if memory serves, so no.

Monkehpimp · 17 Sep 2003, 04:37

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Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
That's changing it, and thus not allowed by the question.

Turn the page around then. It's not changing the equation, its changing the angle you look at it from.

queball · 17 Sep 2003, 04:38

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Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
A ton is 1.016 tonnes, if memory serves, so no.

http://www.google.com/search?q=ton+in+tonnes

Depends if it's english or US: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ton

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 04:40

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Originally posted by Monkehpimp
Turn the page around then. It's not changing the equation, its changing the angle you look at it from.

Is

8+8=91

the same as

8+8=16?

No.

Hence a change must have taken place.

Counterargument #2:

If you change the angle you look at it from, you're moving the paper wrt the rest frame of your perspective, and as all rest frames are equally valid, you're changing the equation.

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 04:43

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Originally posted by queball
http://www.google.com/search?q=ton+in+tonnes

Depends if it's english or US: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ton

Americans suck dude.

Monkehpimp · 17 Sep 2003, 04:43

It was still the answer the quiz person was looking for (at least I assume so), which makes it 'correct'.

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 04:45

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Originally posted by Monkehpimp
It was still the answer the quiz person was looking for (at least I assume so), which makes it 'correct'.

It makes the quiz crap.

Monkehpimp · 17 Sep 2003, 04:45

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Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
It makes the quiz crap.

fair call.

Tomkat · 17 Sep 2003, 12:34

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Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
quiz

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Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
crap.

Anu · 17 Sep 2003, 13:17

heh

Nodrog · 17 Sep 2003, 13:25

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Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
Is

8+8=91

the same as

8+8=16?

No.

Hence a change must have taken place.

Counterargument #2:

If you change the angle you look at it from, you're moving the paper wrt the rest frame of your perspective, and as all rest frames are equally valid, you're changing the equation.

Its hardly our fault you read upside down.

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 13:31

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Originally posted by Nodrog
Its hardly our fault you read upside down.

What is that even supposed to mean?

Ragnarak · 17 Sep 2003, 13:42

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Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
What is that even supposed to mean?

in nod's reference frame the equation is already correct and needs no changing

he was making a point about you assuming you were in the "correct" reference frame or something

ignore him

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 13:44

even if he did read upside down all the time, that would be incorrect because he would interpret the equation to same way as me.

acropolis · 17 Sep 2003, 14:31

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Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
even if he did read upside down all the time, that would be incorrect because he would interpret the equation to same way as me.

the whole point of riddles is that you only get the right answer when you interpret the question right.

in that question, the correct interpretation is obviously that changing the equation means moving some of the pixels around, which you do not have to do when you flip yourself upside down.

And in number four, you obviously have to interpret as "second day" of each month, and their is only one 'second per month'

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 14:36

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Originally posted by acropolis
And in number four, you obviously have to interpret as "second day" of each month, and their is only one 'second per month'

WHAT IN THE NAME OF HOLY GOD IN HEAVEN ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

JonnyBGood · 17 Sep 2003, 14:41

Haha MrL made himself look foolish by presuming the existence of an objective position in space. Einstein pisses on your face fag!

wu_trax · 17 Sep 2003, 14:43

isnt one ton exactly 1000kg? at least that we learn in school here ...

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 14:44

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Originally posted by wu_trax
isnt one ton exactly 1000kg? at least that we learn in school here ...

That's a tonne (metric ton)

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 14:45

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Originally posted by JonnyBGood
Haha MrL made himself look foolish by presuming the existence of an objective position in space. Einstein pisses on your face fag!

That's the opposite of what I said

SYMM · 17 Sep 2003, 14:46

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Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
WHAT IN THE NAME OF HOLY GOD IN HEAVEN ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Think outside the box a little, instead of taking everything so pedantically literally, use a little "imagination" (for want of a better word) and it is obvious that every month has one second (and one third, and one fourth etc.).
This is how you end up if you go to cambridge...

wu_trax · 17 Sep 2003, 14:49

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Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
That's a tonne (metric ton)

i didnt even know you have your own tons over there. but then, one pound is 500g here

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 14:54

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Originally posted by SYMM
Think outside the box a little, instead of taking everything so pedantically literally, use a little "imagination" (for want of a better word) and it is obvious that every month has one second (and one third, and one fourth etc.).
This is how you end up if you go to cambridge...

There is an (effectively) infinite number of 'second's (by his interpretation of the word second) in a month, though.

Second second, second nanosecond, second day, second week, second (unit made of 17 planck times), etc.

SYMM · 17 Sep 2003, 15:06

His interretation of the word second is quite clearly "the second day", but if he defined this in the riddle, it would sorta defeat the point.
A little more common sense, and a little less pedantry(?) will get you far

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 15:10

If 'A little more common sense, and a little less pedantry' involves me ignoring possibilities, and stating conjecture as fact, then I'd rather not have those qualities.

SYMM · 17 Sep 2003, 15:11

Knowing when to ignore possibilities because they are, quite frankly, absurd, is a good quality to have.

guest · 17 Sep 2003, 15:14

The plum is worth 6 cents not 4 cents.

The number of letters + 2.

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 15:16

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Originally posted by guest
The plum is worth 6 cents not 4 cents.

The number of letters + 2.

Two of the possibilities I had considered were Number of letters + 2 (this would make the peach 7, not 5, and is thus wrong) and Number of Consonants * 2 (this would make the peach 6, not 5, and is thus wrong).

Try and actually make sure it works for all cases before you make yourself look stupid.

leknu · 17 Sep 2003, 15:21

#3 Cant think of more moving parts than a HUUUUUGE sandglass.

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 15:23

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Originally posted by leknu
#3 Cant think of more moving parts than a HUUUUUGE sandglass.

Hourglass... good thought

guest · 17 Sep 2003, 15:27

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#3 Cant think of more moving parts than a HUUUUUGE sandglass.

I can.

The universe.

Stars and planets can be used to tell the time.

Proteus · 17 Sep 2003, 15:41

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Originally posted by guest
I can.

The universe.

Stars and planets can be used to tell the time.

The question specified "timepiece" ("an instrument, such as a clock or watch, that measures, registers, or records time").

The universe is not an instrument, and so does not qualify.

Jennifer · 17 Sep 2003, 16:10

Actually, you can use anything you like as a timepiece. Time is measured mechanistically, so anything whose position changes as a function of time can be used as a time piece.

Of course this a tautology as motion is position as a function of time, but whatever.

Proteus · 17 Sep 2003, 16:23

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Originally posted by Jennifer
Actually, you can use anything you like as a timepiece. Time is measured mechanistically, so anything whose position changes as a function of time can be used as a time piece.

I could use a cardboard box as a house if I really wanted to.

It wouldn't make the box a house, though.

Marilyn Manson · 17 Sep 2003, 16:24

Re-name this thread '****-teasers'. I'm not coming back until you do.

Bye.

guest · 17 Sep 2003, 16:28

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Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
Two of the possibilities I had considered were Number of letters + 2 (this would make the peach 7, not 5, and is thus wrong) and Number of Consonants * 2 (this would make the peach 6, not 5, and is thus wrong).

Try and actually make sure it works for all cases before you make yourself look stupid.

I am sorry you are correct, I jumped the gun.

I think the correct answer on hindsight is it is 1 cent per letter, accept if a letter appears in the word twice, in which case it is worth 2 cents.

I believe this works for all of the produce.

guest · 17 Sep 2003, 16:31

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Originally posted by Marilyn Manson
Re-name this thread '****-teasers'. I'm not coming back until you do.

Bye.

Oh come on, it's just a bit of fun and games, a few questions to get the old brainbox ticking. Granted they are just a few bugaboos and not conundrums that would put the greatest minds to ever think in a twist, but you could try and lighten up and take life with a grain of salt!

JonnyBGood · 17 Sep 2003, 16:32

I'm going to ban pedants from these sorts of threads in future.

Jennifer · 17 Sep 2003, 16:33

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Originally posted by Proteus
I could use a cardboard box as a house if I really wanted to.

It wouldn't make the box a house, though.

No, that is equivalent to saying you could use the universe as a clock. I'm saying you could use anything as a TIMEPIECE.

The equivalent statement in your analogy is that you could use a cardboard box as a home, and yes, if your box is where you lay your hat, then it's a home.

guest · 17 Sep 2003, 16:33

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Originally posted by JonnyBGood
I'm going to ban pedants from these sorts of threads in future.

They do indeed tend to suck the fun out of it.

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Sep 2003, 16:38

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Originally posted by guest
They do indeed tend to suck the fun out of it.

You will suck the life out of meeeee

Proteus · 17 Sep 2003, 16:40

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Originally posted by Jennifer
No, that is equivalent to saying you could use the universe as a clock. I'm saying you could use anything as a TIMEPIECE.

And you could.

However, you seem to be under the illusion that using a thing "as" something else automatically makes it that thing, which is clearly nonsense.

The universe does not fulfill the definition of a timepiece, so it isn't one. You can use it as one all you like, but it won't alter what it is.

P.S. Pedantry is