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8 Oct 2008, 14:36
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Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
To remove some of the confusion around this issue, I'll try and explain the differences between these accounts (also known as free/upgraded accounts) from Round 29 onwards.
Basic accounts are much improved on previous rounds. They have full access to Population, Government, Buddy Packs, History and Journal pages (they can also save news items, and so on). They have no research limits or construction limits.
When you use a credit to upgrade your account to a premium account, you get the following bonuses:
-No adverts
-A one-off bonus of some combination of resources, asteroids, construction units and research points
-Half price exiling between galaxies
-A wider selection of skins to choose from
-Being able to stay inactive for twice as long in a galaxy whilst being 'unwanted' by it.
-Being distributed with the other upgraded planets at shuffle time
The upgrade bonus needs some explaining, as it is different to current rounds, where a planet would receive a one-off resource boost.
-To upgrade, a player purchases a credit and upgrades their planet as normal
-Once upgraded, the player is asked to select their upgrade bonuses
-The player can choose between a resource boost and an asteroid boost
-The player can choose between a construction unit boost and a research boost
-The player can choose these bonuses at any time after upgrading. The bonuses all increase tick by tick until being selected
-Once the player has chosen between these options, the resource/asteroid bonus is IMMEDIATELY allocated to the account
-The research/construction bonus can be allocated to specific researches/constructions as the player requires, but the bonus amounts do not increase after selection
The precise bonuses are as follows:
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Type Start Bonus Additional Bonus Per Tick
Each Resource Type 5000 4000
Each Asteroid Type 3 1 (per 10 ticks)
Research Points 2000 20
Construction Units 1000 15
As an example of allocating Construction Units, if you select your bonus at tick 300, you get 1000+300*15 = 5500 construction units.
You can use this to gain 5 free constructions, assuming your current research allows it. You can also allocate the remaining 500 construction units to your current construction, if you have one. The allocation of constructions can be done as required as many times as you wish, until the bonus is gone.
The allocation of research points works in a similar way. However, you can use the research points to partially complete researches rather than to complete one or two researches.
If you ever want to reset your planet, you can re-select the bonuses if you have already upgraded your account.
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9 Oct 2008, 19:02
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
i assume someone has worked out when are the best time to do the swaps...
please let me know :-)
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9 Oct 2008, 20:46
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
so lemme get this straight, if i choose the resource type and lets say i leave it untill tick 1000 i would get 4000*1000 = 4mil of each?
so i can wipe out an unsuspecting attacker?
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9 Oct 2008, 20:52
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
You would wipe out your attacker with 120k extra value in ships?
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9 Oct 2008, 21:13
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
depends on scenario no?
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9 Oct 2008, 21:34
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
At tick 1000? Yeah man, good luck with that!
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10 Oct 2008, 02:53
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Appocomaster
-Being distributed with the other upgraded planets at shuffle time
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any chance of that counting for exiles too?
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10 Oct 2008, 03:02
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
so basically, people will be paying to have a bigger value/score at the end of protection ?
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10 Oct 2008, 09:00
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
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Originally Posted by stay_posi
any chance of that counting for exiles too?
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the exile system takes a planet and places it in a galaxy with relatively fewer planets in it. It doesn't do anything else
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Originally Posted by hairypalms
so lemme get this straight, if i choose the resource type and lets say i leave it untill tick 1000 i would get 4000*1000 = 4mil of each?
so i can wipe out an unsuspecting attacker?
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Yes, if you want.
However, if you used it earlier, you might get more ships that'd allow you to get more asteroids.
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Originally Posted by Makhil
so basically, people will be paying to have a bigger value/score at the end of protection ?
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If they decide to select their bonus by the end of protection, but yes, paying will give you an edge over a basic planet.
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10 Oct 2008, 09:04
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mz.
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
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Originally Posted by eksero
You would wipe out your attacker with 120k extra value in ships?
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By the way, that only has a chance of succeeding if they don't scan you.
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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10 Oct 2008, 11:24
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
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Originally Posted by Appocomaster
-Being distributed with the other upgraded planets at shuffle time
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i am not sure if i got that right, so we end with galaxies full on payed accounts while other galaxies have only free accounts ???
pls correct me as i hope i am wrong here
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10 Oct 2008, 11:27
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
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Originally Posted by M0RPH3US
i am not sure if i got that right, so we end with galaxies full on payed accounts while other galaxies have only free accounts ???
pls correct me as i hope i am wrong here
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Yes, apologies.
At the shuffle, buddy packs are created, then premium accounts are randomly added across the galaxies, then basic accounts are randomly added across the galaxies.
This is what I was trying to describe
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10 Oct 2008, 12:38
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speCTacular
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
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Originally Posted by Appocomaster
Yes, apologies.
At the shuffle, buddy packs are created, then premium accounts are randomly added across the galaxies, then basic accounts are randomly added across the galaxies.
This is what I was trying to describe
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I don't see any advantage here for payed accounts?
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10 Oct 2008, 12:54
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mz.
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
There isn't. It just helps ensure there's an approximately equal number of paid and free planets in each galaxy.
P.S. I'm not buying into this "premium account" and "basic account" terminology.
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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10 Oct 2008, 17:35
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
So if your not in a bp you can better upgrade your account after shuffle then?
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10 Oct 2008, 20:44
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mz.
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
Hey that's a pretty good idea
I should've thought of that.
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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11 Oct 2008, 19:26
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
I am sooooooooo underwhelmed by the significance that I may well elect a free account over a paid account. The incentives are much greater than paid, even though the cost of a paid account is next to nothing compared to what I lost in the stock market the last hour.
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12 Oct 2008, 16:38
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
if i use some of my construction bonus up but save a little, will i still get 15 additional points per tick??? or the remaining fraction of additional points of my remaining construction bonus... if you catch my drift...
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12 Oct 2008, 16:57
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
As far as I understand you have to spend all of your bonus at once.
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12 Oct 2008, 17:47
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
When you chose your bonuses you will get the amount calculated with the formula Appocomaster posted longer above.
When you have chosen you wount get more.
You dont need to use your bonuses right away, you can just use a little if you want to.
And then use the rest later
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12 Oct 2008, 18:24
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
So you don't carry on getting the bonus after you have chosen ie 20 res points a tick?
Otherwise i don't see alot of point in paying at all
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13 Oct 2008, 14:22
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
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Originally Posted by Vladel
So you don't carry on getting the bonus after you have chosen ie 20 res points a tick?
Otherwise i don't see alot of point in paying at all
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No, you don't carry on getting a bonus.
Hooray, the game is actually playable for free planets o//
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13 Oct 2008, 14:47
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
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Originally Posted by Carpathia
I am sooooooooo underwhelmed by the significance that I may well elect a free account over a paid account. The incentives are much greater than paid, even though the cost of a paid account is next to nothing compared to what I lost in the stock market the last hour.
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You can always take that route and then if, around tick 600, you happen to want a few ticks of resources (2.4 mil of each) or to finish off a few researches with 14k research points, you can.
I know that as many people will upgrade to get rid of the ads for work (and to get the spreadsheet skin, or in fact any apart from the 2-3 basic skins), rather than the resource/research etc boost.
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Originally Posted by Banned
No, you don't carry on getting a bonus.
Hooray, the game is actually playable for free planets o//
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We have made some effort to make this true (free planet won r20, etc). But yes, now it's a lot more true
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13 Oct 2008, 14:49
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
Which are the 2-3 basic skins?
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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13 Oct 2008, 14:54
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
Currently Round 23 (default), Text Only and Mars (Mars being the possible 3rd)
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13 Oct 2008, 15:19
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mz.
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
Woo! No upgrade for mz then!
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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13 Oct 2008, 16:33
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
and what about queuing construction?
Is that also possible in the free-account?
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13 Oct 2008, 16:55
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
Yes.
At least they do in the current Beta (no upgraded planets...we're all using freebies)
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13 Oct 2008, 23:42
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
This should work out nicely, I hope that at the very least it will bring us over the 2k player mark.
Almost makes me regret buying those extra credits last round, at least they will help me get a bit more of a backup strategy.
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15 Oct 2008, 16:25
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
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Originally Posted by Appocomaster
I know that as many people will upgrade to get rid of the ads for work (and to get the spreadsheet skin,
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hehe :-p,
it's a real cool skin, everybody is always thinking you are working on excell.. I'm not gonna wait long.
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15 Oct 2008, 17:29
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
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Originally Posted by Spritfire
You dont need to use your bonuses right away, you can just use a little if you want to.
And then use the rest later
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will i get added bonus on the "And then use the rest later"
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15 Oct 2008, 17:45
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
oo oo - what effect does government and engineers have on the research or construction points in relation to using one of these new upgrade tools?
eg say i have a res with 2400 RP, but i have 50% enginnering - does this m,ean that my RP is 1200? and so i would only use up 1200 of my 2k research points first tick?
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20 Oct 2008, 07:47
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
Is there going to be a possibility to pick the bonuses seperatly? Atm you need to pick them both at the same time.
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20 Oct 2008, 09:06
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Re: Basic / Premium account differences - Round 29
nope
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